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Exactly my point.

I don't care how hurtful their shouted insults were, 32 cops is insanely excessive. If they're holed up in there with guns and making threats, then yeah absolutely.
 
Exactly my point.

I don't care how hurtful their shouted insults were, 32 cops is insanely excessive. If they're holed up in there with guns and making threats, then yeah absolutely.
you obviously haven't seen kids birthday parties after excessive sugar and fizzy drinks. MRAP is more suitable or nuke it from orbit it is the only way to be sure
 
THE FUTURE OF OUR SOCIETY
legally mandated safe spaces
the feminists win
we all have to keep our distance,
screaming or shouting at people in the club, the bar...
eye and hand motions work better than words at this point
the whole art of the pick up will change
and so will human sexuality...
more distant, cold, disconnected


Feminists only start winning when they start using the phrase, "Lick my clit" as an insult like guys say, "Suck my dick." And you know full well men will interpret it logically as an insult, but savor it for the upcoming, inevitable cunnilingus.
 
Hey I was wondering if we have any members who have it that are open to sharing their experiences?

I might have it so I was wanting to hear from people who have it or have recovered from it.

Many thanks,
Mr. Deeds
 
I received a letter at my work saying if you were to get covid19 you would get paid sickleave. even if your company doesn't have a sick-leave policy.
you will also get paid if you are showing any symptoms and have been told by your doc to self-isolate due to covid19.
also if you are caring for anyone that has tested positive with covid19, you will get paid.
&if you are having to take care of ur children due to them closing schools,etc. you will get paid.

wish i could bring this newsletter up on my phone, but thats pretty much what it is saying.
 
CFC had (has?) it, confirmed, you can read some of his experience earlier in this thread.

Thank SJB. I will be reading for sure. I hope he recovers quickly! I'll send him my wishes when I get a chance to talk to him.

Once again, thank you,
Mr. Deeds
 
We have hit 1 million confirmed cases globally.
And how many deaths compared to influenza? 7-15% of influenza deaths each year are attributed to a coronavirus. How many deaths compared to those? Remember that covid19 would still not fall under the previous definition of pandemic.

0.014 % of the world population...
Coincidentally the same % of manmade CO2 added to the total greenhouse gases.


This personally didn't surprise me. I've read reports of smokers being able to better survive the Black Death:
Study on Coronavirus patients in Wuhan suggests non-smokers are more likely to become infected
...new study ... claims that of the 1,099 Chinese people who contracted 2019-nCoV which were studied, 85.4% (927 people) were never-smokers, while only 12.6% (137 people) were current smokers and only 1.9% (21 people) were ex-smokers.

(To be clear, these were people who not only tested positive for presence of the virus, they became ill, and about half of them became "severely" ill.)

And this is a virus that attacks the LUNGS.
Maybe they've been bullshitting us about tobacco
 
And how many deaths compared to influenza? 7-15% of influenza deaths each year are attributed to a coronavirus. How many deaths compared to those? Remember that covid19 would still not fall under the previous definition of pandemic.

Coincidentally the same % of manmade CO2 added to the total greenhouse gases.


This personally didn't surprise me. I've read reports of smokers being able to better survive the Black Death:
Study on Coronavirus patients in Wuhan suggests non-smokers are more likely to become infected


And this is a virus that attacks the LUNGS.
Maybe they've been bullshitting us about tobacco

ROFL, you are too much. Much as I'd love to believe my smoking is good for me...

Would you care to explain how this "doesn't fall under the previous definition of a pandemic".
 
The WHO has changed its official definition of pandemic in May 2009. The old definition was a new virus, which was spreading across borders, for which you didn't have immunity, and which created a high morbidity and mortality rate. Now the last two have been dropped, and it is possible to have pandemic forever. Basically you don't need a lot of death first you just need the threat of death. Kind of like how parents use the boogeyman to get their children to do stuff they don't want to.

ROFL, you are too much. Much as I'd love to believe my smoking is good for me...
If you switch to additive-free tobacco (Manitou/American Spirit) then it may do more good than harm (especially in the event of a legitimate pandemic). But what's probably going to make you sick is the hundreds of added poisonous chemicals, not the actual tobacco.
 
The WHO has changed its official definition of pandemic in May 2009. The old definition was a new virus, which was spreading across borders, for which you didn't have immunity, and which created a high morbidity and mortality rate. Now the last two have been dropped, and it is possible to have pandemic forever.

Can you prove that?

EDIT: Just to clarify what I mean by proof, acceptable proof would be things like... Medical articles discussing such a definition prior to 09. Archived WHO web pages from before 09. Etc.
 
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You may remember I posted this story up the other day about the police going all dumb dumb. Seems I wasn't the only one incensed:

Coronavirus: How woman ‘loitering’ at train station was wrongfully convicted in shambolic case
No one knows why Marie Dinou was “loitering between platforms” at Newcastle Central railway station on Saturday morning.

She did not tell the police who questioned her, the lawyer who saw her in custody, or the court that found her guilty of an offence under new coronavirus laws.

The 41-year-old is not believed to have spoken a word between the moment of her arrest and the moment she was fined £660 in the first known case of its kind.

Her conviction is to be quashed after police admitted that the wrong law was used to prosecute her, and the case “shouldn’t have happened”.

The Independent has learned that Ms Dinou was not even in the courtroom when a judge found the offence proven after reading statements from British Transport Police (BTP) on Monday.


 
The problem is that people are idiots.
And cops are people.
Ergo cops are idiots.

I wonder why she was loitering though... Waiting for a drug dealer?
 
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Jared Kushner is going to get us all killed

by Michelle Goldberg | New York Times | 2 April 2020

Trump’s son-in-law has no business running the coronavirus response.

Reporting on the White House’s herky-jerky coronavirus response, Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman has a quotation from Jared Kushner that should make all Americans, and particularly all New Yorkers, dizzy with terror.

According to Sherman, when New York’s governor, Andrew Cuomo, said that the state would need 30,000 ventilators at the apex of the coronavirus outbreak, Kushner decided that Cuomo was being alarmist. “I have all this data about I.C.U. capacity,” Kushner reportedly said. “I’m doing my own projections, and I’ve gotten a lot smarter about this. New York doesn’t need all the ventilators.” (Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top expert on infectious diseases, has said he trusts Cuomo’s estimate.)

Even now, it’s hard to believe that someone with as little expertise as Kushner could be so arrogant, but he said something similar on Thursday, when he made his debut at the White House’s daily coronavirus briefing: “People who have requests for different products and supplies, a lot of them are doing it based on projections which are not the realistic projections.”

Kushner has succeeded at exactly three things in his life. He was born to the right parents, married well and learned how to influence his father-in-law. Most of his other endeavors — his biggest real estate deal, his foray into newspaper ownership, his attempt to broker a peace deal between the Israelis and the Palestinians — have been failures.

Undeterred, he has now arrogated to himself a major role in fighting the epochal health crisis that’s brought America to its knees. “Behind the scenes, Kushner takes charge of coronavirus response,” said a Politico headline on Wednesday. This is dilettantism raised to the level of sociopathy.

The journalist Andrea Bernstein looked closely at Kushner’s business record for her recent book “American Oligarchs: The Kushners, the Trumps, and the Marriage of Money and Power,” speaking to people on all sides of his real estate deals as well as those who worked with him at The New York Observer, the weekly newspaper he bought in 2006.

"Kushner," Bernstein told me, “really sees himself as a disrupter. Again and again," she said, people who’d dealt with Kushner told her that whatever he did, he believed he could do it better than anybody else, and he had supreme confidence in his own abilities and his own judgment even when he didn’t know what he was talking about.”

It’s hard to overstate the extent to which this confidence is unearned. Kushner was a reportedly mediocre student whose billionaire father appears to have bought him a place at Harvard. Taking over the family real estate company after his father was sent to prison, Kushner paid $1.8 billion — a record, at the time — for a Manhattan skyscraper at the very top of the real estate market in 2007. The debt from that project became a crushing burden for the family business. He gutted the once-great New York Observer, and then made a failed attempt to create a national network of local politics websites.

His forays into the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — for which he boasted of reading a whole 25 books — have left the dream of a two-state solution on life support. Michael Koplow of the centrist Israel Policy Forum described Kushner’s plan for the Palestinian economy as “the Monty Python version of Israeli-Palestinian peace.”

Now, in our hour of existential horror, Kushner is making life-or-death decisions for all Americans, showing all the wisdom we’ve come to expect from him.

“Mr. Kushner’s early involvement with dealing with the virus was in advising the president that the media’s coverage exaggerated the threat,” reported The Times. It was apparently at Kushner’s urging that Trump announced, falsely, that Google was about to launch a website that would link Americans with coronavirus testing.

The president was reportedly furious over the website debacle, but Kushner’s authority hasn’t been curbed. Politico reported that "Kushner, alongside a kitchen cabinet of outside experts including his former roommate and a suite of McKinsey consultants, has taken charge of the most important challenges facing the federal government,” including the production and distribution of medical supplies and the expansion of testing. Kushner has embedded his own people in the Federal Emergency Management Agency; a senior official described them to The Times as “a ‘frat party’ that descended from a U.F.O. and invaded the federal government.”

Disaster response requires discipline and adherence to a clear chain of command, not the move-fast-and-break-things approach of start-up culture. "Even if Kushner were the most competent person in the world, which he clearly isn’t, introducing these kind of competing power centers into a crisis response structure is a guaranteed problem,” Jeremy Konyndyk, a former U.S.A.I.D. official who helped manage the response to the Ebola crisis during Barack Obama’s administration, told me. “So you could have Trump, Kushner, Pence and the governors all be the smartest people in the room, but if there are multiple competing power centers trying to drive this response, it’s still going to be chaos.”

Competing power centers are a motif of this administration, and its approach to the pandemic is no exception. As The Washington Post reported, Kushner’s team added “another layer of confusion and conflicting signals within the White House’s disjointed response to the crisis.” Nor does his operation appear to be internally coherent. “Projects are so decentralized that one team often has little idea what others are doing — outside of that they all report up to Kushner,” reported Politico.

On Thursday, Governor Cuomo said that New York would run out of ventilators in six days. Perhaps Kushner’s projections were incorrect. “I don’t think the federal government is in a position to provide ventilators to the extent the nation may need them,” Cuomo said. “Assume you are on your own in life.”

If not in life, certainly in this administration.

 
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Can you prove that?

EDIT: Just to clarify what I mean by proof, acceptable proof would be things like... Medical articles discussing such a definition prior to 09. Archived WHO web pages from before 09. Etc.

Don't be lazy and research it yourself. If you can't find it I'll dig it up
 
Lawyers and judges: they know a creeping police state when they see one.

Guess how many totalitarian or police states came about as a result of the state saying "let's have a police state"?

Guess how many totalitarian or police states came about as a result of the state using a "crisis" to justify it?

 
I received a letter at my work saying if you were to get covid19 you would get paid sickleave. even if your company doesn't have a sick-leave policy.
you will also get paid if you are showing any symptoms and have been told by your doc to self-isolate due to covid19.
also if you are caring for anyone that has tested positive with covid19, you will get paid.
&if you are having to take care of ur children due to them closing schools,etc. you will get paid.

wish i could bring this newsletter up on my phone, but thats pretty much what it is saying.


You must be in the US. That's going out to a lot of us. I got one as well.
 
The problem is that people are idiots.
And cops are people.
Ergo cops are idiots.

I wonder why she was loitering though... Waiting for a drug dealer?

From what they say in the article, it seems she just didn't have a ticket, for which the fine is much less.
 
Yeah my work is offering all that and we get 4 weeks paid leave for childcare problems .
I’m taking the leave because now my babies daycare is officially a emergency child care site and all these people that work at our local hospital are bringing their kids there and the hospital is paying , sorry but I don’t want my baby around all these nurse’s kids .
The hospital workers are gonna be way more at risk to catching this shit so yeah I’m staying home with my baby and getting paid for it !
 
Don't be lazy and research it yourself. If you can't find it I'll dig it up

No. You've made several statements of late that you can't backup.

And it should be a lot easier proving that such a definition was changed than somehow proving it never happened. Which is what my existing research led me to believe.

If you don't wanna provide evidence, I'll assume that like usual you have no proof at all other than the claims of the usual YouTube crazies.
 
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