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How do the 2c analogues differ from 2cb?
2c-b vs 2c-c, b seems more cartoonish/ humourfull.

vs 2c-t-2 it seemed a bit more confronting and hard hitting. 2c-t-2 is a real gem too btw very relaxed and flowing instead of the intense effect's of 2c-b. Not talking equivalent dosage's, no clue about that. But the ranges 10/15mg for 2c-b and if I remember correct 20 2c-t2
 
2c-b vs 2c-c, b seems more cartoonish/ humourfull.

vs 2c-t-2 it seemed a bit more confronting and hard hitting. 2c-t-2 is a real gem too btw very relaxed and flowing instead of the intense effect's of 2c-b. Not talking equivalent dosage's, no clue about that. But the ranges 10/15mg for 2c-b and if I remember correct 20 2c-t2

ah okay thanks, i think i like the intense euphoria from 2cb. Feels better than md for me :)
 
The various LSD analogues are lovely.

Etizolam, although technically not an RC, is honestly one of my favourite benzos.

Benzos just seem all the same to me, is there anything significantly different with etizolam?
 
Benzos just seem all the same to me, is there anything significantly different with etizolam?

If you don't like benzos in general you probably won't enjoy etizolam to be honest. I like etiz because it has a perfect balance between providing a nice buzz while also being very effective for functional anxiolysis in sensible doses.
 
4-FA was totally the shit, so euphoric, so rolly, not too stimmy but just stimmy enough.

How do the 2c analogues differ from 2cb?

2C-C is rather similar to 2CC-B, but gentler and more introspective. 2C-E is way different, 2C-E is like a great-grandfather psychedelic, incredibly psychedelic, deep, visual, emotionally pretty neutral so the trip can span from terror to joy multiple times. Ego death type of stuff if taken far enough. They're all different from each other, 2C-E is the most different though.
 
4-FA was totally the shit, so euphoric, so rolly, not too stimmy but just stimmy enough.
Dude yes. I've never had MDMA before but 4-FA is exactly what my mind imagined it to be. It's like the perfect cross between an amphetamine and an empathogen.
 
4-FA is more stimulating than MDMA and good MDMA is more euphoric, and specifically more lovey, I've never had any other drug that made me feel so in love with everything as the early days of MDMA.
 
How does that one stack up against say, ALD-52? I've heard good things, but the bodyload is apparently a little more pronounced. I'd love to give it a whirl some day

1cP-LSD is very similar to ALD-52 in my experience, maybe slightly more potent. Some report 1cP-LSD has a bit shorter duration, but I have not noticed that. I find that bodyload may vary from time to time with the same substance, but both compounds have been smoother than LSD or ETH-LAD in my experience.
 
4-FA is more stimulating than MDMA and good MDMA is more euphoric, and specifically more lovey, I've never had any other drug that made me feel so in love with everything as the early days of MDMA.

I've not explored many of the stimulant category of RC's. My only comparisons would be 3-FPM, street meth, and pretty much any ADHD medication.

4-FA sounds like a dangerously good time. From my limited experience also with hexen, I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as 3-FPM. Even stacked up against traditional ADHD medications, I prefer it because of it's shorter duration, slight and brief, but not overbearing euphoria.

Main beef with 3-FPM is that; while very forgiving in moderate to even high doses, repeated administration over the course of a few days seems to cause a sort of systemic reaction (for me at least) where blood pressure goes up as metabolites build up in the system, becoming quite disconcerting. I've read a few reports of similar reactions, and sensitivity to this varies from person to person. One report being multiple limb amputation and acute kidney failure due to IV administration, but keeping in mind the case report was on a chronic IV abuser and was headed for trouble nomatter what, but in that particular case, the chronic vasculitis seemed to be so severe that the individual lost limbs due to ischemic occlusion.

Interestingly enough, others report reynaud's syndrome from multi day use, and anecdotes from myself seem to follow the trend. But, this is neither here nor there in the context of this thread. I just found it interesting to note that low to moderate sporadic doses shouldn't be an issue. As is common harm reduction practice for the use of any RC, nomatter how alluring the pleasure of regular consumption might be.

My ranting, off topic blurb aside, how would some of the more popular RC stims stack up against say, meth or adderal (two common and well known stims, for a reference)

A few had mentioned 2-FA is nice and rolly, is it as moreish as say, 3-FPM?

Compared to meth and ADHD meds, and even cocaine, I've never experienced a morish sensation more compelling than 3-FPM. I've had to set it aside from the rest of my stash in a very inconvenient place and limit its use to 1-2 day study session with a minimum 7 day break inbetween. Crazy stuff but so pleasant, mild and so moreish it doesn't even make sense due to the lack of peak euphoria.
 
Functional being less of a forceful stimulus?

Say compared to meth being one of the more "pushy" stims?

I'm just trying to imagine the subtleties. I do also suppose dose has a fair role to play in the subjective "pushyness" of a stim. ROA Influences onset and duration and all that jazz.
 
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I found 2-FA weird, I went through an entire gram in a day and never got euphoric or even really stimulated, there was definitely an effectt but not what I expected. At this time I didn't have any significant amphetamine tolerance, I was taking 30mg doses of 2-FMA to very good effect.
 
That's interesting for sure. There is some pretty wide variability in effect from molecule to molecule in all the subcategories. It's quite curious as to why the addition or removal of a side chain can interact with receptors as they do. RoA can affect metabolism and change the parent compound which may still be psychoactive, bypassing first hepatic metabolism can produce significant differences in psychoactive effect in some cases. Pharmacology is interesting stuff. I've been doing my homework and it seems to point towards influence on receptors, and the relationships between the shape and charge of the molecules along with the shapes and charges of the receptors. I'm not entirely savvy on all the details yet, but it is quite amazing none the less, even as a novice to consider some of these unseen "goings on" in the body.

A little off topic, but still related to RC's,
has anyone heard anything about the possibility of an impending ban on many of the RC's produced in the netherlands?

I've never done the one order I was planning just because I've been so busy with school. My next order was going to be a batch of xstal 1p, probably 10 - 20 mg as a solo order seeing as it'd most likely fly under the radar easily. And another order with some more "fun and exotic" items that might not make it, however I'd be very hopeful that they do. I've always wanted to try DOC, DOB, 2CB-FLY and the PCP analogues.

Having heard about the whole potential to outlaw these has really instilled a sense of semi urgency as to the procurement of some of these, seeing as the availability may become scarce or just differ to the dark web, which I am as of yet unfamiliar with.

Thoughts?

Also, I'm sure that whole situation is on the back burner now that the world is experiencing a global pandemic. Priorities right?
 
bromazolam - a perfect valium, xanax hybrid.

2-fa is sweet. tons of mood lift and motivation with almost no comedown or acute side effects. i flushed a lot of it due to concerns about cardiotoxicity. if they were unfounded, what a waste. it has a clean, not pushy euphoria. more euphoric than plain racemic amphetamine (i.e. addy). not that freight train euphoria people expect from amphetamines.


I've never had MDMA before
whoa. though i have not taken it more than a few times and not in over a decade. still, that’s one that most people give a try.
 
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2-FA was definitely a good one. Ethylphenidate was inferior, but not bad either as a functional stim when used orally in light doses.

But probably my favorite, in terms of most euphoria, was prolintane (1-Phenyl-2-pyrrolidinylpentane). Prolintane didn't have a big presence when it was around AFAIK, and it came and went very fast it seems; but when the genuine article (not fake Katovit pills) was available, it was great.
 
Benzos just seem all the same to me, is there anything significantly different with etizolam?
Its effects are typically benzodiazepine. But just in the right proportion's.

Like Temazepam is an oddity in that its recreational. But does have that same basic benzo feel.
 
bromazolam - a perfect valium, xanax hybrid.
For real? I Had no idea! This sounds like my ideal medication.
whoa. though i have not taken it more than a few times and not in over a decade. still, that’s one that most people give a try.
Just never really got around to it man. Always missed out on the times it was around my friend circles. My pot guy said he was gona get me some recently, but I haven't heard from him in a hot minute and have to wonder if he got pinched or something.
 
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