I have heard of states of heaven being reached within meditation. I have no concept of it outside meditation apart from my single most profound astral projection experience, in which I was blanketed by a feeling that I could find no other word to describe besides "heaven" to associate the feeling. I have experienced what felt like hell in many episodes of my life when I was nowhere near a Heavenly experience. I associate these terms mainly with states of mind.
There are some interesting views in India that suggest people who are wicked in their human lives are incarnated on hellish alien worlds after they die on earth. That is the closest "realistic" interpretation of Hell that I think I would purchase... if it were at a discount price.
A good anecdotal rendering.
My apotheosis gave me a taste of what I call a cosmic consciousness and I think that that is what you call the heaven you cannot describe.
I bet your experience lasted only seconds. Mine was only about 6 seconds and produced tears of joy as well as pain flipping back and forth all the way through it, depending on our communication topic. I never cry.
As a Gnostic Christian, I try to remember my ideology when I look around Sometimes the heaven I logically know is here is easier for me to see.
Here is the longer explanation on heaven.
I wrote this to refute the false notion that Gnostic Christians do not like matter and reality that the inquisitors propagated to justify their many murders of my religions originators. It shows that Christians should actually hate matter and not Gnostic Christians.
The Christian reality.
1 John 2:15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Gen 3; 17 Thou shalt not eat of it; cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.
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The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"
"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.
Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?
Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”
That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.
Regards
DL
I want so much to believe that it's possible for us to achieve this. As I get older it gets harder to stay believing it is, and I wish very much that that wasn't the case. ❤
