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Election 2020 The 2020 Candidates: Right, Left and Center!

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Fox News poll has Biden, Sanders, Harris, and Warren winning against Trump.

Trump has to be panicking because the economy might stabilize (it won’t but I want to be optimistic), and he’s still losing. That’s not a good sign.

If a Dem wins, and it's not socialism, do you think our lives are going to get better?
 
I can't believe Beto said that... I can't believe I voted for him. This is the end of his political career.

More and more I wonder if I'll end up voting Republican next year...
I actually agree with Beto's comments. No one had the balls to point out when a totalitarian is going to take us all down with him, though it has happened dozens of times.

If you do vote Republican make sure to hand-write in a non-Trump candidate. There are real Republicans who Really care about America.
 
The Democratic party is a shitshow right now. Disappointing, very disappointing. The fuck are they doing? Are they all idiots?
They think they can bully the other Republican candidates just like Trump did in 2016. They forget they're all DEMOCRATS and none of them need to be bullied like Trump literally bullied every other Republican candidate, one after the other, until he acquired their supporters and moved on, etc.

The Democrats need a cohesive message, something they can all get behind and really mean it. Medicare/college for all is too out there. Get behind fixing the CRJS, the roads, the schools, or tapering the War Machine off its trillions. There's rational, bipartisan plans to make America decent and not over-bloated on the Federal gov't side. And the Dems play race issues against each other, Harris brings up Biden decisions from *decades* ago. Etc.

None of that is going to attract a vote from me, or anyone else I know.
 
If a Dem wins, and it's not socialism, do you think our lives are going to get better?

In terms of better than Trump, yes. The rest depends on who controls the Senate (probably Republicans), and who the candidate is.

But yeah, I think things right now are worse than most people understand in terms international relations and ability to respond to a more serious crisis than has yet occurred, for a number of reasons.
 
I actually agree with Beto's comments. No one had the balls to point out when a totalitarian is going to take us all down with him, though it has happened dozens of times.
I was referring to the 'mandatory' buyback program idea. I hate Trump very much, but I would vote for him if they (Democratic candidate) wanted to forcibly confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens.
 
How many do you think will vote dem when it comes out shortly that the fbi spied on trump illegally at the behest of some top.ranking dems before the election. Didnt that guy who talked about the russian spy talk about this exactly?
 
I hate Trump very much, but I would vote for him if they (Democratic candidate) wanted to forcibly confiscate firearms from law abiding citizens.
trump floated the idea of taking guns without due process and there was barely a peep (here) from the usually-vocal 2nd amendment crowd...

alasdair
 
agreed :)

i don't know how anybody really knows what he truly thinks on background checks, tighter assault weapons regulations, purchase age, etc. as he's flipped-flopped so many times...

alasdair

Doesn't matter what he thinks or says really, he's against the globally-driven mass gun disarmament of society and will probably maintain the status quo for as long as he's in power, barring a catastrophe or martial law.
 
I don't think red flag laws are an issue really. I can see how they would be abused but legally they have to justify why they would be used. I can foresee a vindictive lover or parent using it against someone but the state using it to disarm whole populations seems a bit of a stretch.
 
Doesn't matter what he thinks or says really, he's against the globally-driven mass gun disarmament of society and will probably maintain the status quo for as long as he's in power, barring a catastrophe or martial law.
my point is that the only way you 'know' that is because that is what you choose to believe (i.e. what you want to believe and what you rail against others for doing all the time)...

alasdair
 
my point is that the only way you 'know' that is because that is what you choose to believe (i.e. what you want to believe and what you rail against others for doing all the time)...

alasdair

Judge people on their actions, not their words or your assumptions. Politics is full of doublespeak and misdirection. You speculate when you lack evidence. Some people refuse to accept evidence or fail to notice their own hypocrisy when it comes to speculating.

I don't want to believe anything. I just want to know what is. I say this often but I hope that I'm wrong about a lot
 
You speculate when you lack evidence. Some people refuse to accept evidence or fail to notice their own hypocrisy when it comes to speculating.
indeed. but most do it. including you:

...but I am speculating that he was involved in one at the time...

it's important to not try to pass off speculation as some kind of authoritative - or factual, evidence-based - claim. i think you'd find you generate a little less friction with others if you held yourself to the same standard here to which you often hold others.

alasdair
 
Do you guys think we can raise s concern about mentally ill intelligence assets addicted to adrenochrome under the red flag laws. Maybe trump is trying to dissarm the deep state with the Red Flag Laws.

The more you think... The less u kno?
 
Yeah Hunter S Thompson totally made that shit up about adrenochrome. I remember reading study where they tested it on people and I can't remember if it did nothing or if it produced basically an anxiety/panic response physically (pounding heart, etc), but that was it.
 
The Democratic party is a shitshow right now. Disappointing, very disappointing. The fuck are they doing? Are they all idiots?
omg you said the . . ef. . word !

i just want some poppy seed cookies. oatmeal chocolate chip poppy seed cookies.

with no f'n raisins dried prunes lol.


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Yeah Hunter S Thompson totally made that shit up about adrenochrome. I remember reading study where they tested it on people and I can't remember if it did nothing or if it produced basically an anxiety/panic response physically (pounding heart, etc), but that was it.

Several small-scale studies were done in the 50s and 60s, reporting that adrenochrome triggered psychotic reactions like thought disorder, derealisation, and euphoria.1

John Smythies (2002). The adrenochrome hypothesis of schizophrenia revisited. Neurotoxicity Research 4 (2): 147–150. doi. [return]


In his book, Hunter S Thompson claimed it came from the adrenal glands from living people. The movie skipped over that.

Author Hunter S. Thompson described it this: “the first wave felt like a combination of mescaline and methedrine”.2


From the book. They are telling you exactly what is going on, even down to the werewolve shit.


pages 45-47

Adrenochrome,” he said. “You won’t need much. Just a little tiny taste.” I got the bottle and dipped the head of a paper match into it. “That’s about right,” he said. “That stuff makes pure mescaline seem like gingerbeer. You’ll go completely crazy if you take too much.” I licked the end of the match. “Where’d you get this?” I asked. “You can’t buy it.” “Never mind,” he said. “It’s absolutely pure.” I shook my head sadly. “Jesus! What kind of monster client have you picked up this time? There’s only one source for this stuff...” He nodded.

46“The adrenaline glands from a living human body,” I said. “It’s no good if you get it out of a corpse.” “I know,” he replied. “But the guy didn’t have any cash. He’s one of these Satanism freaks. He offered me human blood – said it would make me higher than I’d ever been in my life,” he laughed. “I thought he was kidding, so I told him I’d just as soon have an ounce or so of pure adrenochrome – or maybe just a fresh adrenalin gland to chew on.” I could already feel the stuff working on me. The first wave felt like a combination of mescaline and methedrmne. Maybe I should take a swim, I thought. “Yeah,” my attorney was saying. “They nailed this guy for child molesting, but he swears he didn’t do it. ‘Why should I fuck with children?’ he says; ‘They’re too small!’” He shrugged. “Christ, what could I say? Even a goddamn werewolf is entitled to legal counsel... I didn’t dare turn the creep down. He might have picked up a letter-opener and gone after my pineal gland.” “Why not?” I said. “He could probably get Melvin Belli for that.” I nodded, barely able to talk now. My body felt like I’d just been wired into a 220-volt socket. “Shit, we should get us some of that stuff,” I muttered finally. “Just eat a big handful and see what happens.” “Some of what?” “Extract of pineal.” He stared at me. “Sure,” he said. “That’s a good idea. One whiff of that shit would turn you into something out of a goddamn medical encyclopedia! Man, your head would swell up like a watermelon, you’d probably gain about a hundred pounds in two hours... claws, bleeding warts, then you’d notice about six huge hairy tits swefling up on your back...” He shook his head emphatically. “Man, I’ll try just about anything; but I’d never in hell touch a pineal gland. “Last Christmas somebody gave me a whole Jimson weed – the root must have weighed two pound; enough for a year – but I ate the whole goddamn thiung in about twenty minutes.” The slightest hesitation made me want to grab him by the throat and force him to talk faster. “Right!” I said eagerly. “Jimson weed! What happened?” “Luckily, I vomited most of it right back up,” he said. “But even so, I went blind for three days. Christ I couldn’t even walk! My whole body turned to wax. I was such a mess that they had to haul me back to the ranch house in a wheelbarrow... they said I was trying to talk, but I sounded like a raccoon.” “Fantastic,” I said. But I could barely hear him. I was so wired that my hands were clawing uncontrollably at the bed spread, jerking it right out from under me while he talked. My heels were dug into the mattress, with both knees locked... I could feel my eyeballs swelling, about to pop out of the sockets. “Finish the fucking story!” I snarled. “What happened? What about the glands?” He backed away, keeping an eye on me as he edged across the room. “Maybe you need another drink,” he said nervously. “Jesus, that stuff got right on top of you, didn’t it?” I tried to smile. “Well... nothing worse... no, this is worse...” It was hard to move my jaws; my tongue felt like burning magnesium. “No... nothing to worry about,” I hissed. “Maybe if you could just... shove me into the pool, or something...” “Goddamnit,” he said. “You took too much. You’re about to explode. Jesus, look at your face!” I couldn’t move. Total paralysis now. Every muscle in my was contracted. I couldn’t even move my eyeballs, much turn my head or talk. “It won’t last long,” he said. “The first rush is the worst, ride the bastard out. If I put you in the pool right now, sink like a goddamn stone.” I was sure of it. Not even my lungs seemed to be functioning. I needed artificial respiration, but I couldn’t open my mouth to say so. I was going to die. Just sitting there on the bed, unable to move... well at least there’s no pain. Probably, I’ll black out in a few seconds, and after that it won’
 
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