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Stimulants Stimulants to Work or Study

ThatSpaceyKid said:
?? Because ima trying to reduce harm lol... Na but he sounds like he had ambition and goals. Might as well tell him to go smoke crack with this logic just saying ??? . Just make sure to sleep at least 4 to 6 hours through the day. Eat a lot of carbs and fruits. 15 minute naps through the day can do more for you than longer amount of times. Lots of water. The caffeine is a perfect example... Caffeine is a drug to. And if abused leads to horrible side effects and if used to be more productive it can actually decrease productivity because of crashes and shit. Cocaine is shit I'll just Express my opinion lol waste of money.... Doesnt last at all.. Not worth my time.... Can be just as destructive as meth and can be a precursor to crack. It really depends on the amount of time really... 1 or 2 months might be sustainable but even that's pushing it. (As far as the meth). Is going to school or keeping this job worth it? Are you willing to get hooked to drugs trying to do these things? If so why? Why so important? Maybe find an alternative job or be reasonable were all only human and can only do so much in a day. And we are fragile and can only do so much.... Idk man just gonna say it again... Meth will turn you into someone else... Look at the kids who took Adderall for ADHD growing up.. Proof that the controlled method is bogus... I know a good chunk of em now who are full blown meth addicts... Ima just throw it out there... Once you start fucking with meth expect that you will encounter heroin or might use heroin as many meth addicts use both. There the two evil sisters that love to kill mens hopes and dreams.. Coke easily leads to crack and a good chunk of the time it is very cut as well. If discovered by certain others that you are doing meth or other such things just to be able to keep working and going to school... There is no difference than the addict who uses it just to escape... And both scenarios the person may have to deal with the same consequences.... Before I shut up I'll finish by saying you might be good it might work out for you to do meth.. But... What happens years later if you come across it again or have to do the same thing... Eventually your gonna want to do some thing even stronger.

I'm out ima just shut the fuck up lol. Yall have at it.
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Aight ya dun unintentionally poked a nerve =p i smoke plenty of crack and have used meth while i cant say they arent HIGHLY addictive drugs i dont crave nor think about them often, everyone is different and this is somthing that should be remembered, No one knows what they can become hooked to, it can happen over time or instantly, just like im hooked mentally and physically to pain meds even though theyre used as prescribed for chronic pain but that mostly puts me into 'dependent' catagory rather than addicted but i am still 'addicted' but whatever we can only share our knowledge and opinions im sure ive said meth isnt a great option but is the answer to the threads goal unfortunately
 
Zonxx said:
Aight ya dun unintentionally poked a nerve =p i smoke plenty of crack and have used meth while i cant say they arent HIGHLY addictive drugs i dont crave nor think about them often, everyone is different and this is somthing that should be remembered, No one knows what they can become hooked to, it can happen over time or instantly, just like im hooked mentally and physically to pain meds even though theyre used as prescribed for chronic pain but that mostly puts me into 'dependent' catagory rather than addicted but i am still 'addicted' but whatever we can only share our knowledge and opinions im sure ive said meth isnt a great option but is the answer to the threads goal unfortunately
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Good point to bring up. The addictive vs the dependent. Addiction is a beast of its own too. You dont really know if your an addict per se. I know for me... I used a bit of pills and aerosols and drank a bit but then it activated some thing in me... It was all like reflex and second nature... Before I knew it here I am now... And now it's a horrible nightmare. Once i start i cannot stop on my own Nd no amount of human power can relieve me. And your right were all different very much so.
 
@ThatSpaceyKid it is not that uncommon for meth to be scripted. If the above mentioned drugs dont work then an appropriate amount of meth may do the trick. The only problem is he wants to stay up for days at a time. Even if he got access to modafinil or adrafinil, his cognitive function would still decline from lack of sleep.

OP, can you access the modafinil? Try that first because they are right, it is safer. But if you cant access it but you can access meth, then using it appropriately at doses between 5-25mg are perfectly acceptable considering it is a scripted drug used for ADHD. Be very wary of the urge to redose, if you feel like you want more and know you probably shouldn't take more then lay off of it.

Meth is just a more potent dexedrine, and if used correctly it helps plenty if people. It's the users who smoke/shoot/snort and take high doses that are at the higher risk of dependence. I'm not downplaying its addiction potential, but it is a useful chemcial.
 
For long term progressive attention and executive function strengthening, I recommend desipramine upon awakening: 25-50 mgs and if sleep is hard then 5-7 mgs of Remeron b4 bedtime. Hydroxazine is an alternative @ 40-60 mgs
 
I already stayed up for 3 days with methylphenidate + caffeine.

So adherral vs methamphetamine? I think I only met meth at parties, a sticky crystal.

Is this methamphetamine that you guys are recommending?

I think in the form of pills here in my country, do not sell in pharmacies, in the form of pills?

Would I have to find a methamphetamine dealer? Very hard to find here !!! I'm in Brazil. Maybe I can bring some meth from Paraguay.
 
How many days is it possible to stay awake swallowing or smelling Aderrall?
How many days is it possible to stay awake swallowing or sniffing methamphetamine?

PS .: The maximum of days, without hallucinations or losing common sense, or getting sick

Then I can sleep for about 2 days.
I ask this, because I have security friends who use cocaine spend 8 days without sleep and working
 
psbluelight said:
How many days is it possible to stay awake swallowing or smelling Aderrall?
How many days is it possible to stay awake swallowing or sniffing methamphetamine?

PS .: The maximum of days, without hallucinations or losing common sense, or getting sick

Then I can sleep for about 2 days.
I ask this, because I have security friends who use cocaine spend 8 days without sleep and working
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This makes me think you just want to see how long you can stay up and binge.... if this is your mindset then dont use the meth or any amps at all. I thought this was for a matter of importance but now it seems like you just want to push your body and mind to the limits for hell of it.
 
psbluelight said:
How many days is it possible to stay awake swallowing or sniffing methamphetamine?

PS .: The maximum of days, without hallucinations or losing common sense, or getting sick
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1 day. After just one day your common sense will be affected whether you realise it or not, and your risk of getting sick will be significantly increased. Multiple studies have shown the dangers of even a single night of missed sleep, it's not a joke.

But, you seem to have no interest whatsoever in any of the harm reduction oriented advice given in this thread. It's in your best interest if you are not able to find meth.

Your security friends will die young by the sounds of it.
 
OP I recommend you try and find some dexamphetamine if possible. Instant release only lasts for about four hours or so. This way you are not kept awake for too long and you have the chance for normal healthy sleep.

The other week I went just a single night without sleep and the next night I began seeing shadow people and the edges of things started moving and becoming wobbly. I can only imagine what staying awake for multiple days on a regular basis must be like... and the answer is certainly not good for your brain at all.

Sleep is seriously vital. Don't use so many stims you can't sleep, seriously. If you feel as if you must stay awake because you are balancing your night job and your studying, find a job you can do during your free time in the day instead. There's plenty of shift work going around for students and being a night security guard is not at all worth risking your health for. No job is.

Even at my shitty retail job the bosses always told me: health comes first always. If it's a choice between work or health, choose health.

Also why are you mixing caffeine with strong stims like Vyvanse and methylphenidate? That won't enhance the functional effects at all, just give you more anxiety, worse comedowns, and possible panic attacks. For me personally at least I get full on panic attacks from caffeine alone these days even though I am fine taking amphetamine.
 
In terms of the title- for longer-term health in terms of working and studying, why not work on time management with efficient use of stimulants and healthy sleep/habits rather than cramming or extended sprees?

Low dose methylphenidate combined with time management like pomodoro review techniques like spaced repetition (anki, etc...) can be beneficial. 20 minute review periods in morning/ at shifts. Setting up systems to more efficiently approach balancing studying and work. Restoration periods / schedules / mindfulness / meditation. What is your end goal? Do you want to retain knowledge or just prove that you can stay up?

Consider u-shaped effects of stimulants on cognition.

Psychostimulants and Cognition: A Continuum of Behavioral and Cognitive Activation - PMC

Psychostimulants such as cocaine have been used as performance enhancers throughout recorded history. Although psychostimulants are commonly prescribed to improve attention and cognition, a great deal of literature has described their ability to ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The importance of sleep for long term memory consolidation is something to consider. It can be easier to recall things with sleep, making some projects or finals less labor-intensive. Going to excess without sleeping seems more an element of machismo than an effective long-term technique for learning. Not that it isn't uncommon culturally, but that doesn't mean it is effective. If that is a motivator, then do better than them by not spending large bursts of time inefficiently, learning to do more in half hour than many spend over four.

I mean if you are going to use stimulants, using them to establish healthy habits and routines/systems, speeding that period of adjustment, might be an option to consider. It is possible to save more time learning to learn/balance over pursuing inefficient strategies made worse (or deceptively effective) with stimulants. Stimulants can reinforce whatever you do.

As for just staying up, modafinil, caffeine, meth will do it.
 
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I think this is a forum about drugs and their effects and repercussions ... not about how you morally judge what I should do or what is healthier.

I bet many who have criticized me use crack, cocaine or heroin ... we know that from the media that makes it clear about the epidemics of heavy drug users and addicts in both Europe and the US.

Thanks to the others, who informed me clearly about what I had asked.
 
psbluelight said:
I think this is a forum about drugs and their effects and repercussions ... not about how you morally judge what I should do or what is healthier.

I bet many who have criticized me use crack, cocaine or heroin ... we know that from the media that makes it clear about the epidemics of heavy drug users and addicts in both Europe and the US.

Thanks to the others, who informed me clearly about what I had asked.
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This is a forum on DRUG HARM REDUCTION. While we do focus on the effects of drugs, we take a particular interest in helping people stay safe while using.
 
I don't know if offering different perspectives on possible use is quote-unquote morally judging. I don't think Bluelight would intend to be an echo chamber supportive of drug use that could be harmful, in its goal of harm reduction. You are [relatively] free to choose what you want, and posters can respond as well. We all have some interest in drugs and what we do with/on them.

Health is a part of drug use and inherent in evaluating the effects. You wouldn't talk, healthily, about the high of MPPP or something without mentioning dangers. I don't know about morality with that, but reality, long term efficacy and outcomes. https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/01/12/frozen-addicts-garage-drugs-and-funky-brain-chemistry-10728
 
I was once scripted desoxyn at 5mg QID. It was very expensive, and I frankly found that it made me kind of spacey and sedated at those low doses. I remember first taking it before an econ lecture and thinking, "wow meth sucks at low doses".

Modafinil (or f-modafinil) is good. I am particularly fond of cyclazodone, which is about as effective as d-amphetamine (albeit less enjoyable).
 
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Understand gentlemen, I don't care about the health issue.

I just want some potent stimulant suggestions that I can consume, and while I'm ingesting it keep me awake and alert.

I don't want to get involved with cocaine.

The example I first brought up is that there is an effectiveness threshold when you consume methylphenidate + caffeine. After 3 days awake, it is no longer good for you to consume any dose of these stimulants ... that your body no longer responds to. Simply sleep dominates your mind and you are bound to sleep.

I have reports from colleagues that by consuming cocaine + Paraguayan amphetamine-derived appetite suppressants, they were able to achieve between 6 and 8 days working or driving trucks.

Don't treat me like crazy, because if we look at reality, the US is the biggest cocaine consumer on the planet, and second is my country - Brazil.
 
I didn’t read through every post but there’s literally no reason anyone needs to stay up 3 days to study lol. I’m a med student and have zero reason to do that shit and med school is harder than just about any other schooling out there.

Not to mention the high risk of psychosis from using stims to stay up for days. No studying or work is worth that
 
law and medical students are at the top of research reporting the use of stimulants, from aderral to cocaine. You're just a medical student, my brother is an anesthesiologist. Do not use the authority argument to judge what I should or should not do.

It really is difficult to find a direct answer to my question. Except those who told me modafinil and meth, the others continue to make judgments, don't take it personally, I reiterate that I'm not worried about health.

I need something potent, with a reasonable half-life, and not as bad as snorting cocaine.
 
Some good crystal sounds like you best option. I wouldn’t smoke or shoot it... eat it, mix it, parachute it. Take it orally.

And making the decision to start using crystal make sure you eat and have something around for when you need to come down. Sleep is critical.
 
I think that anything that is euphoric will be a distraction from your intended studies even if it keeps you awake so Modafinil is your best choice.
 
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