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Conspiracies Epstein Dies in Custody - Alleged Suicide, Some Speculate it was a Hit Job

It's not something I'd bet on. Can I just be thankful a human being killed him? What difference does it make?

I know, let's waste a lot of state resources looking for a non-existent killer!

No wonder we're over 20 trillion in debt. :\

If I tried putting myself into his shoes: suicide.
If I tried putting myself into the shoes of Trumps or Clintons: murder. Ain't no one dragging my family name down.

I don't think there's a more nefarious connection if it was a murder. People just like keeping their name clean from bad associations.
 
At night, guards cannot wake everyone up every half-hour to make sure they’re alive. Instead, guards check for breathing. Staff makes rounds every half-hour, peeking in to make sure everything’s alright. A friend in a maximum security prison simply waited for rounds to pass to hang himself with a sheet from the top of his door immediately after. No great height is required if you tuck your knees in and drop off the steel sink. Soaping the noose ensures that it will swiftly and silently break your neck rather than strangling you slowly.
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When there's a will, there's a way. I'm going to have to side with suicide but I can see it both ways as described above.

I'll commit this to memory just in case.

Suicide is such a threat to a guard’s career that they err on the side of caution. In the same prison where my friend died, another friend jokingly asked how I’d hang myself. Answering his joke, I said that the bowl would hold my weight best. We didn’t notice a guard listening. An hour later, I was escorted to the psychiatrist, who concluded that we were joking and saved me from the horrors of suicide watch.
The officers on whose watch Epstein died will be lucky to save their jobs with Attorney General Bill Barr ordering an investigation. In hindsight, MCC should have taken extra precautions considering the prior incident. Nevertheless, considering the lockup’s diligence and one prisoner’s determination to die, the party most likely responsible for taking Epstein off the count is Jeffrey Epstein.
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I'll believe the person who has more experience inside than me. :)
 
cduggles said:
No, but it would’ve been better if Epstein had spilled his guts (figuratively).
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Oh, when will liberals learn... you can't make someone tell the truth. Torture doesn't work. Waterboarding doesn't work. My god.

If someone's twisted/determined enough they'll take the truth with them to the grave.

Not driected at you Cdugs but a lot of the liberals were the #1 proponents of "torture doesn't work!".... explain? It can't be if you believe torture doesn't work.
 
Chris42393 said:
Random conspiracy (NOT SAYING IT'S TRUE BY ANY MEANS) ... but maybe he's not even dead? The ear lobe and nose shape are different. Could be a body double? Body features such as those dont change shape after death.

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after they embalm you the shape of your body shifts dramatically.

Have you seen someone you knew and loved embalmbed? It's not going to be perfect. There is some warping/distortion.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
after they embalm you the shape of your body shifts dramatically.

Have you seen someone you knew and loved embalmbed? It's not going to be perfect. There is some warping/distortion.
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These photos were taken as Paramedics were taking him out of the building, no embalming yet. There is also no warping/distortion of nasal "bones" (cartilage) and ear lobes (as that's mostly collegian) during embalming. His hairline was also different, appears anyway. (which you can see in the 3rd picture).
 
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His features look the same to me. Guards don't give a shit about sex offenders they want them to die so will not pay attention and give them the means to kill themself or put the AB gang memebers on their block to carry out convict justice. A dead body that has been hanged looks slightly different to been alive. Epstein is dead but the justice department doesn't make to commit political suicide and will try and bring his associates to trial
 
So now that we are arguing over his face... anyone wanna guess WHY we even have those pictures?

From another board I post on, this guy is a medical examiner.

"Correct, we do NOT move someone without them being in one of the 3 different types of bags we use. Also, we have 3 different prison/jail/holding type facilities in the county and they all have loading dock/back areas completely absconding the view of anyone from the public and press. Same goes for anyone leaving in an ambulance, they use the same areas, so the probability of someone snapping a picture like that is essentially 0%. With that said, I don’t know where he was being held and the access to said facilities by the public, but it is HIGHLY suspect that someone was able to get that picture. "

abcnews.go.com

French officials call for investigation of Jeffrey Epstein’s 'links with France'

A pair of French government officials are calling for an investigation of Jeffrey Epstein’s activities in France.
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French Secretary of State for Equality between men and women Marlène Schiappa and Secretary of State for the ministry of solidarity and health Adrien Taquet released a joint statement on Monday asking the French authorities to open their own investigation of Epstein.

“The US investigation has highlighted links with France,” Schiappa and Taquet said in a statement. “It thus seems to us fundamental for the victims that an investigation be opened in France so that all is brought to light.”
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TripSitterNZ said:
His features look the same to me. Guards don't give a shit about sex offenders they want them to die so will not pay attention and give them the means to kill themself or put the AB gang memebers on their block to carry out convict justice. A dead body that has been hanged looks slightly different to been alive. Epstein is dead but the justice department doesn't make to commit political suicide and will try and bring his associates to trial
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Ive responded to DOZENS of hangings (who were all dead) and ear lobe and nasal "bone" structure do NOT change shape after death (unless there is blunt force trauma of course).
 
Anyone have any idea on what suicide watch is and protocols? Like I know someone has to check on you, and from what I know of holding they shout to make sure you are awake or have to verbally reply. But does a shrink have to sign off on you being there or taken out of suicide watch? I guess its not like a psych ward where they can restrain you and stuff. And housing seems weird too, obviously general population doesn't go there. And what exactly is a cell-mate? Is that a cop? I heard they've put cops into cells with people before.
 
I don't know. I could see that there are a lot of powerful people who could potentially put a hit out on him, but given that he was facing a life sentence, the idea of him committing suicide doesn't shock me either. What is rather strange to me is that he was taken off of suicide watch. I mean a week ago, he allegedly tried to kill himself. And assuming this was true which I have no reason to doubt, why would they assume that a week later he would no suddenly no longer be suicidal. That doesn't quite add up to me to be honest.
 
Well I have not been on suicide watch in prison or anywhere.
But in hospital many many times.
Once they woke me every hour for some shit that i cant remember but to say on a Suicide watch they Wouldnt wake them every 30 mins doesnt seem right.
His own People had him taken off suicide watch olm8 Eppy is on the Loose. God bless Merica.
 
Chris42393 said:
These photos were taken as Paramedics were taking him out of the building, no embalming yet. There is also no warping/distortion of nasal "bones" and ear lobes (as that's completely collegian) during embalming. His hairline was also different, appears anyway. (which you can see in the 3rd picture).
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oh you did say that.

He paid for a body double and a tunnel to be dug?
 
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