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Mass Shootings and Gun Debate 2019ish

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The irony about that shooting in Texas is this folks............

1) Texas was part of Mexico till it was stolen, you want to "MAGA" maybe start by giving Texas back to Mexico.

2) He NEVER had the balls to go into Mexico......oh I don't know say Ciudad Juarez for example & do it, I wonder why huh? Oh yeah because some MS-13 or narco gang would have grabbed him before the cops arrived & cut his arms & legs off with a chainsaw & tossed his corpse out the window of a SUV in the Mexican badlands.

3) Everyone apart from the native people that lived in the "USA" before people came over from Europe due to religious persecution have the right to say or do anything, most people that live in the USA have family that came over & took land off people.

And also............

ANYONE that goes around posting his manifesto should be shot too imho, that is one hell of a scummy & fucked up post I just saw, I'd shoot you myself & I thank god don't even live in the USA.
 
An eye witness at the mass shooting in Texas says there were 3-4 shooters dressed in black. Possible 'False Flag'?

 
Zopiclone bandit said:
ANYONE that goes around posting his manifesto should be shot too imho, that is one hell of a scummy & fucked up post I just saw, I'd shoot you myself & I thank god don't even live in the USA.
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Chris42393 said:
An eye witness at the mass shooting in Texas says there were 3-4 shooters dressed in black. Possible 'False Flag'?

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Chris42393 said:
You do know what the word "POSSIBLE" means right? Other people have said it as well. It wouldn't be the first time the media has lied. You're more than welcome to think whatever you want though.
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Just like Hillary possibly ran a child sex ring from a pizzeria, the sandy hook kids are possibly still alive, and Obama is possibly a Muslim....adding possibly doesn't really help.
 
mal3volent said:
Just like Hillary possibly ran a child sex ring from a pizzeria, the sandy hook kids are possibly still alive, and Obama is possibly a Muslim....adding possibly doesn't really help.
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Sorry for trying to add more info (sarcasm). This is HER WORDS. I added POSSIBLY because I obviously don't know. So YES it DOES really help. You're entitled to your opinion, but opinions can be wrong (which yours is).
 
Chris42393 said:
Sorry for trying to add more info (sarcasm). This is HER WORDS. I added POSSIBLY because I obviously don't know. So YES it DOES really help. You're entitled to your opinion, but opinions can be wrong (which yours is).
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One person in a crowded Walmart thinks she saw multiple shooters instead of one. YOU added "possible false flag?" There's nothing in the video that even starts to substantiate that kind of claim.
 
mal3volent said:
One person in a crowded Walmart thinks she saw multiple shooters instead of one. YOU added "possible false flag?" There's nothing in the video that even starts to substantiate that kind of claim.
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You still don't seem to understand what word POSSIBLE mean. Saying POSSIBLE is making NO claim at all.

Thought you were smarter than that? Guess not. Huh.

Anyways, this argument is over. Goodbye.

There is no point in replying, because I will not be reading it, nor replying to it.
 
Chris42393 said:
You still don't seem to understand what word POSSIBLE mean. Saying POSSIBLE is making NO claim at all.

Thought you were smarter than that? Guess not. Huh.

Anyways, this argument is over. Goodbye.

There is no point in replying, because I will not be reading it, nor replying to it.
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Well I guess it won't hurt anything then? Since you won't be reading what you're currently reading.

I know what possible means and I also know it's a word that doubles as an escape hatch for individuals peddling false conspiracy theories.

The term false flag implies a LOT so don't be surprised when someone gets their panties in a bunch
 
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I'm not arguing with you and I support the 2nd amendment but you have to see the fallacy in arguing that gun control doesn't work by using Chicago, Illinois high rate of gun crimes. Someone can literally drive 30mins east and they are in Indiana, where they can easily purchase a gun and it's not as if they are doing border checks on the way back.
 
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Most of you guys know I'm white and living in LA, and I have admiration, respect and love the Latinos here. All of them are extremely friendly to me and treat me with respect, i.e. the Mexicans, Salvadorans, Guatemalans, and others. So when I heard about the El Paso shooting I couldn't stop crying and I still am.

Normally stories like this just make me a little sad but this one hit *terribly* close to home. I'm feeling kind of emotionally devastated. I don't think gun control is the solution, I still love the 2nd amendment. I am just very devastated.

Oh and I was confused I told someone in a PM the gunman was killed; I think they captured him? I forget. Grief makes your mind blur things. I hope they execute him. I am terribly distraught over this and I am sure anyone else here is too, no matter what political background they have or belief on the 2nd amendment, tragedies like this are terrible.
 
I read to the point he said something about the less people living off the system the better. My after thought was I guess he should’ve shot him self, because now he is just another living off the system in jail. I would like to check the reports of the deceased and injured are they all natives and Hispanics? Yeah and because native people didn’t take the European invasion seriously. How the $&@$ does he know what they took serously. Was he like alive then. Is that even a reason to slaughter them now today? Or just a retarded reason. Who wants to think when we can just act as tards nowadays probably more easy...
 
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With fussing or without, please tell me how that was "disingenuous".
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In this conversation, I never said "send them back". I have said, perhaps, that the Africans should have been sent back, way back when, although I have some trouble with that because it constitutes force...like taxes and large intrusive government which made it possible for them and other unlike groups of people in large numbers to exist here as "free people" and in Europe in the first place, anyways, without this breaking out into war. I did say in another thread, not this one, that we shouldn't have brought Africans here to be slaves in the first place. Because of what happened with it, and the divide now, and potential for division.

I also never said "fake news" on this website. So your comment was disingenuous. It's disingenuous also because someone might take your quoted words - of me - as something I actually said, which I didn't. I know what you meant by it, but another might not.

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'False Flag'?
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I don't know. It seems that almost every time something like this happens, people think they hear/see multiple shooters.

Dogboy said:
The irony about that shooting in Texas is this folks............

1) Texas was part of Mexico till it was stolen, you want to "MAGA" maybe start by giving Texas back to Mexico.

2) He NEVER had the balls to go into Mexico......oh I don't know say Ciudad Juarez for example & do it, I wonder why huh? Oh yeah because some MS-13 or narco gang would have grabbed him before the cops arrived & cut his arms & legs off with a chainsaw & tossed his corpse out the window of a SUV in the Mexican badlands.

3) Everyone apart from the native people that lived in the "USA" before people came over from Europe due to religious persecution have the right to say or do anything, most people that live in the USA have family that came over & took land off people.

And also............

ANYONE that goes around posting his manifesto should be shot too imho, that is one hell of a scummy & fucked up post I just saw, I'd shoot you myself & I thank god don't even live in the USA.
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1)

Wikipedia said:
Mexico obtained independence from Spain and the Spanish Empire with the Treaty of Córdoba in 1821. It briefly experimented with monarchy, but became a republic in 1824. This government was characterized by instability, leaving it ill-prepared for international conflict when war broke out only two decades later, in 1846.[10] In the decades preceding the war, Native American raids in Mexico's sparsely settled north prompted the Mexican government to sponsor migration from the United States to the Mexican province of Texas to create a buffer. However, the newly named "Texans" revolted against the Mexican government of President/dictator Antonio López de Santa Anna, who had usurped the Mexican Constitution of 1824, in the subsequent 1836 Texas Revolution, creating a republic not recognized by Mexico, which still claimed it as part of its national territory. In 1845, the Texan Republic agreed to an offer of annexation by the U.S. Congress and became the 28th state in the Union on December 29 that year.
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It's a little more complicated than 'evil white bigots stole it'.

2) You talking about shooting someone know nothing about actual combat. Why would he "invade Mexico"? From the sound of him via his manifesto, he didn't even really hate them - he just didn't want them pouring in here. I almost think he did this just to have what he had to say rocketed to the forefront of attention. Whether you like it or not, beyond his fucked up conclusion of going and killing people like he did - innocent people largely, what pissed him off still continues to cause civil unrest in this country, and is mirrored in Europe. Mass immigration is not good for society, it puts us in a very insecure situation where we have less control over our future, and it sows division. And it is supported by corporations, which like open-borders, because they can make more money, and it's supported by "government", which wants their voters. These people will often vote democrat. All of the have-nots, or a large majority of them, the newcomers, will vote democrat. He wasn't really doing this to win a war, or be a badass, but to make some kind of statement. To spur thought/discussion.

3) This sentence that you wrote for number three is almost unintelligible, but maybe I'm not reading it correctly; You seem to say that white people have no right to say anything, or whatever, because they stole the land. You do know these groups also were stealing land or taking it in warfare before white people came, don't you? Are white people suddenly this different group that is not allowed to play the same game as every other group on earth? Are you a racist?

This is the state now, or perceived state. We have a corrupt government that doesn't really know how to govern, and power and reach of corporations that is greater than any time in history, and technology and government that can make possible movements of massive numbers of people, which hold different views/opinions as others, or have different interests. Any other time in history, this would have created a war. It inevitably leads to conflict. Any other time in European history, they would not have been able to be "invaded" by the people that are going there now, but they have the "resources" to make it happen, and people have been basically indoctrinated to accept it, or else they're "racist". Meanwhile these other groups will require extra extra help, for generations to come (we're beholden to it...we're in forced labor), and it will destroy the social fabric that once was, that existed in many areas with reciprocity, and mutual...togetherness and direction, common sentiments, feelings, identity. Whether they are right or wrong, people who feel threatened by unproven cultures/people entering, and voting for the other side, for high taxes that mostly now-"natives" will pay, well, you should understand why they exist, and will continue to exist. If you don't, you don't understand nature at all. The policies of these governments, and the wishes of these corporations, if these were done on some other, minority population or other population area, would constitute genocide, or at least the question would be understandable.

Also, about shooting me, bring it on. Don't just talk about it.
 
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