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SANDERS CAMPAIGN BATTLES WITH STAFF DEMANDING $15 HOURLY PAY - WHICH CANDIDATE SAYS SHOULD BE FEDERAL MINIMUM

Campaign workers for Bernie Sanders have taken aim at one of the senator's key policies in his 2020 presidential run — raising the federal minimum wage.

According to The Washington Post, some members of Sanders' campaign team have been lobbying to raise their wages so that they make the $15 hourly rate that the Vermont senator has frequently called for both on the campaign trail and in Washington D.C.

The Post obtained a draft of a letter that the campaign's union planned to send to Sanders' campaign manager Faiz Shakir which read in part that workers "cannot be expected to build the largest grassroots organizing program in American history while making poverty wages. Given our campaign's commitment to fighting for a living wage of at least $15.00 an hour, we believe it is only fair that the campaign would carry through this commitment to its own field team."

The letter states that field organizers are working at least 60 hours a week, which lowers the average per hour pay to $13 an hour.

"Many field staffers are barely managing to survive financially, which is severely impacting our team's productivity and morale. Some field organizers have already left the campaign as a result," the letter said,

According to documents reviewed by the newspaper, the issues regarding wages extend back to May 2019, though talks between the campaign union and Shakir appear to be ongoing. It is unknown if Sanders is aware of the requests from campaign workers.
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Same thing happened with Obama's campaign. My sister worked for it, she said it was crazy. To be fair, the last sentence of what you posted is a consideration, as a candidate is unlikely to be very involved in the inner workings of everything related to how their campaign is run. They might be, or they might just delegate and focus on the bigger picture, ie, speeches/etc.
 
Aye, the last sentence offsets it a bit, but still - anyone he delegates such decisions to HAS to be aware of the implications or they don't deserve the job.

Wonder what Trump paid, or Bush.
 


"If you don't like it, you can leave it, right?"

Yeah so buy me a plane ticket to a country of my choice pls, $1-3k per person who wants to go. Let's see the feds cough that kind of $$$ up.

They can't even afford toilet paper, tooth paste or tooth brushes for asylum seekers they are keeping in cages worse than animals are in zoos, but I can leave whenever I want. Sure, we all could, lol. Totally feasible.

I love Trump mathematics. "Sir, your tax plan will cost the nation $2 trillion dollars per year" "NO IT WON'T IT WILL SAVE LOTS OF MONEY BIGLY it's people like HILLARY that steal your tax money"
 
The notion of simply leaving and going to another country is stupid in so many ways.

I already covered how it's a bullshit attempt to silence criticism in a recent post, so this time I'm gonna approach it from another angle.

So, in spite of what some people might think, the rest of the world isn't just waiting and hoping that an American might want to come live there. You can't just go to another country you aren't a citizen or resident of and expect to just live there like you do in the US.

Now there's plenty to argue and debate about regarding refugees and illegal immigration, but one things pretty much absolute. Nowhere is gonna count you a refugee on the basis of "America sucks and I don't wanna life there" or "America sucks and people kept telling me to leave if I didn't like it".

That's not how it works. And it's a bit of a pet peeve of mine when people (usually Americans for some reason) act like it's perfectly plausible for someone to just move to another country and live and work there forever. As if the rest of the world is on the edge of its seat hoping an American will wanna live thrrem

Yeah, no. Unless you're a dual citizen (or your country has an agreement with another country, like members of the EU) , that's not gonna happen.
 
They're pretty much all hypocrites in bed with the corporations. I truly hope Sanders didn't know how his campaign was being run at that level and rectifies this. Even if he does it could just be an attempt to save face but he's the only potential candidate I've seen (and I've followed quite a few of his speeches and debates) where I actually feel that he's being honest about his intentions, and where I agree with what he has to say on almost everything, and where I don't see links to big money (doesn't take campaign donations from big money, and yeah he is a millionaire but only because of sales from a book he wrote). But if he knew about this and was okay with it, it would sour my view of him some.
 
Honestly, MSNBC is almost as bad as Fox News.

Their post debate coverage was shocking, vomit inducing, hilarious, and tragic all at the same time.
 
Xorkoth said:
I truly hope Sanders didn't know how his campaign was being run at that level and rectifies this.
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lol...why? Why not just pick a diff candidate for the primaries?

My god I don't get it. Libertarians are shooting fish in a bucket. Dems get 20+ candidates this year and some still are picking/playing favorites from 2016. 8( And the REPUBLICANS ARE THE WORST with the Trump Train: don't get me started.

[you know I <3 you xorky I'm just observing]

Xorkoth said:
doesn't take campaign donations from big money, and yeah he is a millionaire but only because of sales from a book he wrote
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Do you hear yourself excusing his wealth though? Some people are philanthropists and give most of it away. I know a few million barely buys a single person a decent end-of-life retirement, I get that. Just saying.

The words you're using confuse me. If I had your brain/gives-a-fucks-about-everyone I would just vote for O'Rourke, someone who also only took small donations to get to where he was in the senate race (I don't know if he bent over for the big businesses for his presidential run, I don't keep up enough I am sorry).
 
"BAN CHINESE STEEL" -DJT, built towers with Chinese steel.
"MINIMUM WAGE SHOULD BE $15/HOUR" -Sanders, paid employees less than $15/hour

I love it.

And people like O'Rourke won't get elected because people want to elect a 80 year old Alzheimer's infested zombie man (whether I'm talking about Sanders or Trump seriously does not matter to me; neither is competent or qualified to run the country in my opinion).

Can't wait until I'm old and brain dead maybe I can be president and not start any wars either LOL and I can ADD to the deficit, claim I'm not racist by virtue of the fact that I got some people some poor paying jobs (LOL) and if someone with better ideas comes along I'll just start a chant: LOCK HER UP, and at least I won't be grabbing WOMEN by their private parts ;)

Oh god. And now I'm watching Warren.

"Would you decriminalize border crossings?"

DODGES ANSWER. Great avoidance of libertarian policies. THIS IS WHY TRUMP WILL WIN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WIN POTENTIAL SWING VOTERS LIKE ME

is there a time machine that will age me to a 88 year old man so I can run for presidency when I'm 92 because apparently that's the TARGET AGE of a US president :|

HERE'S YOUR SOMETHING

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Chris42393 said:
Bernie walks into a bar - says free drinks for all - everybody claps - Bernie asks 'who's paying?'
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The patrons respond in unison, "We all payed a little bit more in taxes so we could ensure that no one here ever has to go without a drink, not even that poor bastard over there who can't afford one right now. Tomorrow that poor bastard could be any one of us, and if that time comes, we will be taken care of too. Because that's how a civilized, modern, compassionate society operates."
 
mal3volent said:
The patrons respond in unison, "We all payed a little bit more in taxes so we could ensure that no one here ever has to go without a drink, not even that poor bastard over there who can't afford one right now. Tomorrow that poor bastard could be any one of us, and if that time comes, we will be taken care of too. Because that's how a civilized, modern, compassionate society operates."
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One patron yelled ... "Id rather keep my money I worked for! If that poor bastard wants something, he can work for it and buy it himself! We all know life isnt fair!"
 
Captain.Heroin said:
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

don't you love the hypocrisy of the far-left

:D
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Sanders' campaign became the first to unionize, a move which was publicized in March 2019, just weeks after the senator announced his 2020 presidential run. Since then, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julian Castro have both unionized their campaign workers.

According to the agreement made between Sanders campaign and the union, which began on May 2, field workers were to be paid $36,000 annually rather than by hours worked. However, on May 17, the Post states Shakir recommended field organizer pay be raised to $42,000 during a staff meeting. In the same meeting, he also suggested that the work-week be extended to six days a week the union's letter said.

According to the Post, the union rejected Shakir's plan, in part because of the healthcare costs that would fall to the campaign workers to pay.

Shakir later responded to the messages, the Post said, telling workers they were owed an explanation about where things stood between the campaign and the union. He also expressed disappointment in the union voting against raising wages, saying, "I have no idea what debates and conversations were had, but candidly, it was a disappointing vote from my perspective. But the campaign leadership respected the union process and the will of the membership."

According to the Post, the union plans to send a new proposal to the Sanders campaign that includes a $46,800 salary for field organizers and $62,400 for regional field directors. Regional directors currently make $48,000 a year.

The proposal also asks for the campaign to pay 100 percent of healthcare costs for workers who make less than $36,000 a year, and to pay 85 percent for those who make over $36,000.

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So basically, Bernie's campaign offered the union a pay raise that was basically equal to what the union eventually demanded. The union rejected the proposal because they also wanted the campaign to pay 100% of their PLATINUM LEVEL health insurance.

So in reality the workers' expectations were to be paid $15/hr AND have their platinum level health insurance paid for as well. Not simply to be afforded the federal minimum wage that Bernie has proposed. If all Sanders' policies were to come to fruition, employers would be more able to facilitate the $15/hr because they WOULDN'T HAVE to provide health insurance.

That is a world we do not currently live in. There is no Medicare for all YET. So there really isn't much hypocrisy, is there? The campaign made a good offer that the workers rejected. Not because of the wages but because of the benefits. The campaign actively in talks with the workers when the union member broke the confidentiality of the negotiations.


Hmmmm okay damn well that took like ten minutes of thought, so I guess that's too much to ask. Much easier to read headlines and oMg BeRnIe HypocrisY lulZ.
 
if he cared so much he should be paying them at least what I earn per hour. And my job is severely easier than what they do for him.

He truly doesn't give a fuck IMO

it's the same hypocrisy "make me do the right thing" just do it. Right?

But I totally loved your post because you have a great point.

mal3volent said:
Much easier to read headlines and oMg BeRnIe HypocrisY lulZ.
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qft ^

I still knew most/all of the facts and still choose to think of Sanders as knowingly underpaying his employees and trying to skirt away from the facts coming out, just like Trump, which doesn't bode well with me. I thought about leaving the country when Trump got elected I WILL HAVE TO LEAVE if Sanders gets elected.
 
Chris42393 said:
One patron yelled ... "Id rather keep my money I worked for! If that poor bastard wants something, he can work for it and buy it himself! We all know life isnt fair!"
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The barkeep got a baseball bat from under the bar and politely told the patron that these were the principles the group agreed to. He said they all got together and voted by the tens of millions in a democratic election to choose a leader who represented their values. Their candidate won and they formed a government who in turn passed laws that reflected the values of their constituents. So now we pay a little more in taxes so that everyone in our country can have access to the liquor they need. Get over it.
 
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