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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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BTW. someone has said that the guy on youtube is off of invega since 9 years. That is not true, he stated in a comment that his last shot was february 2015, so that's 4 years. It doesn't make things better to think that he hasn't gotten better in 4 years, but at least it's not 9 years.... I mean wtf are we doing here. I can't believe this shit is happening... I want my life and old self back!!
 
@sg88 with that shit you're loaded I am pretty sure you won't have a "relapse" for YEARS. Get off of this shit if possible. You are NOT well, you just forgot about how you're supposed to feel.
 
@Aiden21 No, I haven't. I am not really looking to switch from one medicine to another, I just want to get off of them because they all have side affects.

@Yeshuah That's possible yeah, thats why I want to get off of them but I'm affraid that I could relapse and I dont want to start all from the begining.
 
Has any of you tried to get drunk while taking Invega? I tried but if I drink just a little bit more than normal I feel dizzy and like I would throw up (which I did few times).

And how can I calculate how long does it take for Invega to leave your body? I read about some half lifes etc. but I don't understand the concept.
 
@sg88 be aware that a possible withdrawal symptom is a psychosis, often misinterpreted as a relapse. This subsides after a while. I know of people who had to have this kind of symptom to regain their sensitivity back after they came off drugs. The body will do whatever it need to regain homeostasis, it's a process that comes along with different kind of symptoms. You have to learn how to get pass this, it will eventually subside, if it happens. It doesn't happen for everyone, just go your way and be sure that this can be a part of the process of the body regaining homeostasis and it doesn't mean you're "relapsing". You also have to find out what may have been the cause of your "psychosis", people don't know anything about it. Different people have different stories and it's different for everyone, so how can we call it a psychosis in every case. It is not as simple as they are claiming it to be. And the use of drugs is not a solution, you have to learn to deal with life event and learn the lessons they try to teach you. It is better than numbing yourself down and ignore whatever it is that life wants to teach you. These drugs are very dangerous, so please don't make the mistake to risk serious problems in the future. It's really not worth it. Don't let psychiatrists fool you with the relapse shit they are trying to brainwash you with. They want to create fear in order to make sure you stay a costumer to them. You have already taken a lot of drugs, it will take a long time for your body to recover from them. If you are taking pills, learn how to wean off of them, you can join the forum "survivingantidepressants", they can help you with tapering. If the last thing you had is the injection, you can stop it right away, you don't have to wean off of it, as the body is "weaning off" of it by itself. I really recommend you not to take the invega trinza. If you stop it now, you have much higher chances to recover faster. After taking this I am pretty sure it adds up a few months to a year of recovery time. There are people in here who took more than a year just from a few shots, so I am pretty sure if you take it, that it will take you two years to feel better. Because even the one month shots can stay in the body up to a year.....
 
LifeAfterInvega said:
To Yeshuah, I have been on Trazadone for over 5 years (way before I ever recieved the injection). I am ex-military and have PTSD and sometimes have trouble sleeping. Don't call me a liar about my recovery because I take Trazadone if I absolutely need it. If you want to sit here all day crying about small details then go ahead.
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The fact that you share messages that I have sent to you in private/in trust shows that you have absolutely no sense of compassion towards the concerns and privacy of others. I even wrote to you twice in the message that I didn't mean to offend you and that I am sorry that you have to take it. I am not sitting here all day crying about "small details", I am sharing my concerns to people who know what I am going through. First of all, I don't even have a choice if I sit here all day, because I'm bedridden. Second of all I cannot cry, because I have lost this ability. And last but not least, sleeping isn't a small detail to me, because it is the biggest factor in recovering of the brain and energy level and life quality. That's why I was concerned about this fact. I thought that I could find some encouraging words from someone who know what it is like (concerns included). And I thought maybe someone can lift me up, because I'm having a bad day. But it turns out it was a bad idea. And I didn't call you a liar! I just said to you that the reason that I said in the past that other people may "lie" about recovery, is that they are left with lingering problems. I didn't know that you took this medication in the past. You could have just told me about this fact, so it would have been clear to me. In the end you were the one that attacked me while saying that I sit all day crying. You could have just told me that you understand my concern and that you took this drug before.
 
Woah, can't you both just agree to disagree on your few points of difference? No reason to get personal like this in a thread that's supposed to be about supporting each other.
 
How is it to pass your recovery? @LifeafterInvega? After 7 months you felt your emotions coming back? And how much injection did you get?
 
@CFC I didn't mean to be personal. I actually told him several times that I didn't mean to offend him and that it's an expression of my disappointment. Whatever, I won't react to the ACTUAL attacking statements of his.
 
I'm not gonna take sides or pronounce on who is right or who is wrong, you both have different opinions and different ways of expressing what you think, but sharing PMs is clearly a no-no.

For future reference, if anyone genuinely has a problem with another's PM, please use the report function so the forum's mods can look into it, or even directly PM one of the moderators about it, rather than share it publicly. Thank you.
 
http://www.janssen.com/newzealand/s...s/prod_files/live/invega-trinza-datasheet.pdf Effects on fertility basis was associated with adverse effects on the male reproductive system (inhibited ejaculation, incomplete spermatogenesis, reduced sperm motility and concentration, reduced gonadal and prostatic weight, prostatic immaturity, decreased serum testosterone). Serum testosterone and sperm parameters partially recovered but remained decreased after treatment was discontinued. No effect doses were not determined in either rat or dog. from what we read about fertility this is recovered but not in total quality sorry for my too much research that finds only evidence against this drug
 
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One of my intuition is this: with this drug do not feel sexual impulses, so I think many of us do not even masturbate. I think this could cause damage to organs due to atrophy. I got scared and I masturbated even if I did not have the drive and went out yellow cum. The prostate accumulates liquid that remains stationary and remains there almost to become putrid. my advice is to masturbate even if there are no stimuli. it could be possible that the damage that the study says is due precisely to the non-use.
 
@sav91 I don't think that this is gonna help... One of the reason is also the communication between the brain and the sperm producting processes that are impacted. Parts of the brain areas that are supposed to control different processes and organs and blabla have been numbed. We don't know how long after discontinuation they have tested these animals. Because compared to the beginning my sperm production has improved, so maybe I'm in the stage where these people say that it has returned partially and they don't know what happens in the future. However this is very scary and one of the things that makes me wanna give up. I am very worried today and suicidal. I need some encouragement. If someone can give some encouraging words it would be gladly appreciated. I don't know what to do. I am stuck :(
 
@lifeafterinvega I don't know if you'll see this because you stated you won't be posting anymore, but I want to thank you for sharing your recovery. It gives people hope because there are a lot of scary posts and videos out there saying recovery isn't possible. But many of them don't disclose they are on other ap's since taking invega. It's like of course you don't feel better! I had sleep problems before invega and took sleep medications on and off. Sleeping is and can be a whole other issue outside of invega. Psychiatrist will tell you it's a symptom of the disorder which isn't the case at all. Once I got put on ap's I would go months without sleep. Then they put me on ambien which doesn't help. It's like taking a vitamin there is no effect at all. So it was pointless for me to take it. I believe there is a chemical imbalance happening that is preventing me from sleeping. If trazodone and melatonin work for you then do what works to get some well needed sleep, especially since you have PTSD. The sleep medication is addictive though and going through withdrawal of those drugs is just like any other. I'm sure you'll eventually ween off of trazodone and just take melatonin. Because melatonin occurs naturally within the body. As far as psychedelics and cannabis I am one of those users who posted about it. I respect your decision not to take them, but there has been many studies that state they reduce the symptoms of PTSD. I used psychedelics to achieve a higher state of consciousness. I wish I could explain it better but as a shaman it's just used to have spiritual experiences, it's a sacrament for me. Now I can't connect to the spiritual world. Because none of that shyt works. Again I respect your decision not to use and i am glad that you were able to recover.


@Yeshuah sounds like you're having a bad day. I am sorry. I know what it's like to get some reassurance that everything is gonna be ok. That's why this forum is here. If lifeafterinvega says he's recovered we can only believe he is. I think recovery means to you, is not taking anything at all but some of us still need help sleeping because sleep can be something unrelated to psychosis or invega. I've had trouble sleeping my whole life it just got worse after the shot. So I know it has something to do with it but I also know there is an underlying issue that I'll have to deal with once this shyt wears off. I think because your bedridden all you can do is think about recovery. So you search the net all day looking for answers. I do the same, but I've realized it causes more stress more worry. Especially those videos from people saying they haven't recovered in 9 years. We don't know how many shots and years they were on it. We also don't know if they are taking other ap's. Keep that in mind.
I never had a psychosis only suffered from depression and when I went to the hospital I said some things in anger which lead them to diagnose me with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. Then the doctor gave me the invega shot with a smile on his face. Now I am bedridden. I was a pro bodybuilder. I was doing kundalini yoga 4 times a week (which lead to a kundalini awakening) I was intelligent, interested in learning everything I could possibly learn. Had a connection to God and was on a spiritual journey. I was planning on going back to school to finish my degree in spiritual psychology. All of that is gone because of the side effects of the invega. This shyt robs you of your life. So I understand when you say you want to end it, because you already feel like you're dead. I'd say don't but I'm starting to think that myself. I'd leave a note saying invega caused it though. Not enough people leave a note saying it was the antidepressant or antipsychotic when officials know these things lead to suicidal thoughts, instead they say it was the disorder. No it's your fucking drug! I know you're getting tired of people say hang in there but you gotta hang in there. Yeshuah is a good handle. Before I was given the shot I was recieving prophecy. Yeshua is returning this lifetime. Keep your faith in God, continue to eat healthy, try to exercise, journal and try to meditate. I hope your day gets better
 
@Yeshuah. Don't give up mate. I'm sure there's REAL recovery storys out there - but sadly i'm not one of them. I'm only partially healed. I'm not gonna lie about it. Remember what I said about sleep? Just make sure you give your mind plenty of rest. :) Don't overthink things. keep things simple.
 
Hi @dirtyinvega if you don't mind. I would like to ask you several questions.

1. What are the things that you haven't recovered?
2. How many Invega shots did you had?
3. How long has been after your last Invega dose?
4. Are you taking any other AP's after your last Invega injection?

Thanks!
 
I've removed some personal messages and related posts. It is in poor form and actually against the rules to publicly post the contents of private messages. If you have a beef with someone, take it to PMs. Or better yet, realize that maybe someone was just trying to help...
 
I_Want_To_Recover said:
Hi @dirtyinvega if you don't mind. I would like to ask you several questions.

1. What are the things that you haven't recovered?
2. How many Invega shots did you had?
3. How long has been after your last Invega dose?
4. Are you taking any other AP's after your last Invega injection?

Thanks!
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1) I cannot get fully aroused or feel horny.
2) Cannot fully feel nicotine.
3) Still have memory problems.
4) Still don't have my old emotions.
5) Always feel tired - even thou I have had 12 hours sleep.
6) Energy problems.

If I remember I had 5 total 156mg loading dose + 116mg after that.

2 years 3 months.

I was taking Seroquel and abilify. I stopped taking them a long time ago. I was trying a few antidepressants when I was depressed (invega) side effects - but they didn't work. Stopped taking a long time ago. 8-9 months ago. I started taking a antidepressant called Duoxetine 60mg. Stopped taking a few months ago. Duoxetine I have to say somewhat worked?

But I still can work full time. I love my job. Best part is I work with awesome blokes. :) The best part of my life now is I still have my awesome partner of 10 years and my job.
 
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