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Billy Graham dies at age 99

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Jesus said that he will leave the 99 in search for the one lost sheep and when he finds it he?s more joyful than the 99 needing not repentance.

Billy Graham left the 99 years of a selfless life in search for the one True God.

I?m thankful for his service in spreading the Gospel.
 
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A lot of people here don't believe in god though. And some like me do, but perhaps not exactly the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob. And once you cut all of them out you might find you don't have enough people to have a discussion that doesn't simply turn into a proxy argument about religion. Which isn't quite the same as a discussion of billy Graham.

Then you also have people who are absolutely Christians but still disagreed with him or didn't like him for various reasons.

Meh, I'd suspect this thread will either quickly die, or quickly explode into a religion thread. It occurs to me that I haven't seen many highly controversial religious threads on CE&P which suggests to me its because they get closed too fast for it to happen. In which case this thread is likely gonna be dead in the water either way.

But that's just my observations.

PS assuming you're on an iPhone you can fix the question marks showing up where apostrophes should be by going to general settings, keyboard, and turning off smart punctuation.
 
I had a thought the other day. Wouldn't it be funny if the afterlife were whatever you expected it to be?

So say, if you're Billy Graham you find yourself in heaven with God and your family etc. But it's all an illusion brought about by your mind.

People who thought they'd go to hell did. Atheists found themselves in an endless dreamless sleep. Basically everyone ends up in the afterlife they thought they'd get. Even ones of contradicting religions. Because all of them are actually creations of your own mind.

That would mean you could die, see the proof God exists and so do heaven and hell and the angels and everything in the Christian Bible is true. And have it STILL all be false. That would be frustrating.

Logically that means I would find my afterlife to be reincarnated with no memory of my previous life. Since that's what my strongest belief in the afterlife is. That we are born again in a random time or place as a random life form. Experiencing every and any possible life good and bad over and over with absolutely no memory of the last for eternity. A seemingly infinite number of possible lives infinitely repeating forever. Some so different tthat you're an alien bird or something, some completely identical to your life now. Some identical in every way except say, one different choice of word in one sentence you once said. And everything in between.

Which means you will and already have experienced everything there is to experience, but you'll never remember any of it but the one you're in now.
 
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This is an odd interpretation of Luke 15. It's a lead-in to the Prodigal Son. Oh well.

For the heathens ;) :
Luke 15 (King James Version)

1Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.
2 And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.
3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying,
4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
 
Yes it was a parable of Christ.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful in any way. I just wasn't clear on the comparison to Billy Graham's life to the parable.

I also wanted to share the verses with everyone just in case they weren't familiar with them.
 
sonicwhite said:
How God used a single man to at least convict 215 million ppl. It?s just an open discussion.
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Or how a single man used God to get rich.

With all due respect, this isn't really a CEP topic and you haven't put much effort into generating discussion so I'm gonna shut this.

The philosophy and spirituality forum may be best for these sort of topics in future.
 
what the OP meant to say is that billy graham died today.

do better with your opening post when starting threads guys. post a link to the news article and at least a few paragraphs from it. i just happened to see this earlier so i knew what this was supposed to be, but i shouldn't have to be fixing threads for people in the first place.
 
JessFR said:
I had a thought the other day. Wouldn't it be funny if the afterlife were whatever you expected it to be?
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My good friend put forth an idea that this reminds me of. Apparently upon death, as long as your brain wasn't destroyed, there remains gradually decreasing residual brain electrical activity for up to I believe 36 hours. What if THAT is the afterlife? We all know how fast the speed of thought can be... an immense amount of subjective experience could happen in that time.
 
Xorkoth said:
My good friend put forth an idea that this reminds me of. Apparently upon death, as long as your brain wasn't destroyed, there remains gradually decreasing residual brain electrical activity for up to I believe 36 hours. What if THAT is the afterlife? We all know how fast the speed of thought can be... an immense amount of subjective experience could happen in that time.
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this is from a movie or a book. I can't remember how. I want to say its from strassmans dmt book.
 
I got sort of hard when I heard the guy was dead. Good riddance to a charlatan just like all the rest. Maybe he is in an eternal existential hell of his deepest fears' own design. That would be cool.
 
Keif' Richards said:
I got sort of hard when I heard the guy was dead. Good riddance to a charlatan just like all the rest. Maybe he is in an eternal existential hell of his deepest fears' own design. That would be cool.
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nah. whenever one of these people die, it's much more fun thinking about how they spent their entire lives believing they had something waiting for them. then...poof. consciousness extinguished. all gone. just like everyone else.
 
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i think even better would be to find out that there is a god and afterlife, but they were worshiping the wrong one, and they were so wrong about it and so conceited and arrogant and selfish and determined to put as many people as possible on the wrong path to enlightenment that they get special treatment from everyone else and only they get condemned to the hell they worked so hard to get others to believe in.
 
That would be poetic, wouldn't it? I think, though, that at the end, none of this even matters. This is both liberating and sad. :\
 
He spoke to 215 million ppl. So far three million have their lives to Christ.


He didn?t want ppl money. He didn?t live in a mansion. He took plans just like we do. That?s why he stands out.
 
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nah. whenever one of these people die, it's much more fun thinking about how they spent their entire lives believing they had something waiting for them. then...poof. consciousness extinguished. all gone. just like everyone else.
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But then they'll ever even know they were wrong. Where's the fun in that? It'd be more interesting to die and find out your religion was wrong. But a completely different one was right. Or maybe we haven't guessed the right one yet at all. We die and God is mighty pissed

Another thought I had. What if our entire universe is just a model running on a computer in some library at a university in a reality above us.

And that reality could also be a model on another computer in another library in a universe above that. So it's all universes of no consequence running as models on college computers by students in parent realities all the way up the chain.

A whole new meaning of university.

And of course one day, when our computers are advanced enough, some student at inno, MIT or wherever will have a great idea for a thesis. Simulated reality. And start a computer model of a universe which starts with a big bang and runs for billions of years then suffers a heat death. All in an hour or so. And that'll be our contribution to the cycle.

Of course that doesn't really work. Eventually it has to start somewhere and that means that original model should reach infinite complexity and never complete. Since it's not only running its universe but all the subuniverses as well made in each universe. And that's assuming only one new universe per reality and not the more likely exponential growth.

Presumably the original universe really is made by God. Only little does God know that he too is part of a model running on a computer in the corner of a library simulating how a God might behave.

Which means all gods are indifferent college students. God help us.
 
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