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Manchester Arena explosion: 22 killed in 'terror attack by suicide bomber' at concer

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Manchester Arena explosion: 19 killed in 'terror attack by suicide bomber' at Ariana Grande concert

Manchester Arena rocked by at least one explosion
At least 19 people confirmed dead, 50 more injured
Police state it is a suspected terror attack
Reports that suicide bomber behind the blast
Police warn people to stay away from area
Panic as concert-goers flee the arena

Full article link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/22/manchester-arena-evacuated-reports-gunshots-explosion/
 
Even by terrorist standards this is really pathetic - Trump was absolutely right to call the person responsible a loser.

Is this the one that breaks our patience? How much more of this crap are we prepared to tolerate?
 
Well I hear lots of predictable guff about standing together, solidarity, going on with things.. basically doing what we would be doing anyway and doing nothing to remedy the issue we face. That's the definition of tolerance.
 
^ suicide bombers tend to behead themselves when the bombs go off. It's usually how they are identified. That's pretty horrific, but true nevertheless.
Assuming of course that early reports are even halfway accurate in that regard.

What, comments made almost a year ago about a seperate incident?
It's a mischaracterisation to refer to that beat-up as 'tolerating terrorism'. Seems like realism to me.
What isn't realistic is pretending you have a simple way of preventing acts of violence like this.

People can make improvised explosives, even in the most oppressive nation states in history (nazi germany, for example).

Standing together as a community is defiance of terrorist hate.

Responding in a reactionary, knee-jerk fashion is exactly what ISIS et al want. Disingenuously acting like there is a simple solution to this helps absolutely noone.

I simply feel heartbroken that this attack took place. What a fucking sick, cowardly act.
 
i wondered how long it would take for somebody in this thread to gloss over the victims to make their point. 3 replies. classy.

this was a cowardly attack and my heart goes out to the victims and their families and friends.

alasdair
 
Because saying that "my heart goes out to the victims and their families and friends" changes nothing, other than making you feel like a decent person for saying that. We might as well start posting those
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What isn't realistic is pretending you have a simple way of preventing acts of violence like this.

People can make improvised explosives, even in the most oppressive nation states in history (nazi germany, for example).

Standing together as a community is defiance of terrorist hate.

Responding in a reactionary, knee-jerk fashion is exactly what ISIS et al want. Disingenuously acting like there is a simple solution to this helps absolutely noone.

I simply feel heartbroken that this attack took place. What a fucking sick, cowardly act.
I agree. Getting violent and divisive is what this is supposed cause, so doing that plays right into these cowards' hands.

While I detest this act and it made me feel sick, getting prejudicial towards Muslims is not going to fix anything.

I have an Arab friend who I've known for many years, and he is very upset by this, which is the same sentiment that humans in general feel about this tragedy.

How is attacking Arab people and countries going to solve this? It won't. It will cause more of the same. Respect and communication is the way forward, while ironing out radicalisation one step at a time
 
Respect and communication? Are you for real?
Obviously attacking innocent muslims who have nothing to do with it is not the answer but neither is all turning into cowards.
Islamic state have "officially" claimed responsibility so now I think they should be held to account for their actions.
It's no secret who or where the leaders of IS are so British special forces should be given green light to do what they do best.
 
Because saying that "my heart goes out to the victims and their families and friends" changes nothing, other than making you feel like a decent person for saying that. We might as well start posting those
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you assume.

it's a show of sympathy and, to me, it's 'worth' more than "all muslims are terrorists and this reinforces anti-immigration sentiment" which is just doing isis' job for them.

i'll agree to disagree.

alasdair
 
While I detest this act and it made me feel sick, getting prejudicial towards Muslims is not going to fix anything.

Well the time for subtle and soft approaches is fast drawing to a close because people are getting sick and tired of this nonsense. People like myself have been saying for more than 10 years now something should be done, and the longer it is left to fester the worse the inevitable actions we have to take will be. If we'd opted to tackle this earlier we could have used more subtle approaches, but people like myself calling for that soft of approach were drowned out by "islamophobia" accusations.

No, instead we allowed this undercurrent to fester in our country so that now MI5 are watching 600 or so suspects, but can't monitor them all because it takes dozens of staff to do so properly and the man power just isn't there. As a side note, all that resourcing being utilized on Islamic fucktards means we're stretched and not paying attention to other potential security threats from completely different sources.

Mosques popping up all over the place, preaching in a language and method beyond the scope of us to understand, and taking place largely out of sight. Dozens of people willingly going to Syria and then coming back more fucked in the head. God knows how many accessing nutty literature on the internet..

They need to enact a law today, right now, that any Muslim who goes to Syria shan't be let back in without explicit approval from the Home Office. Period. Not until Syria is a stable nation again. Second, any Muslim caught delibrately accessing radical literature or seeking communication with already known terror suspects should be deported to Saudi Arabia.

But no.. we'll just remain in "solidarity" and probably just arrest Tommy Robinson again 8)
 
^ suicide bombers tend to behead themselves when the bombs go off. It's usually how they are identified.

Er, yeh. My comment was directed at the geezer referred to in the link in the post above mine, not the perpetrator of this atrocity - who is obviously an ISIS sympathiser and I just wish he'd only blown his bollocks off and suffered for the rest of him life.
 
Well the time for subtle and soft approaches is fast drawing to a close because people are getting sick and tired of this nonsense. People like myself have been saying for more than 10 years now something should be done, and the longer it is left to fester the worse the inevitable actions we have to take will be. If we'd opted to tackle this earlier we could have used more subtle approaches, but people like myself calling for that soft of approach were drowned out by "islamophobia" accusations.

No, instead we allowed this undercurrent to fester in our country so that now MI5 are watching 600 or so suspects, but can't monitor them all because it takes dozens of staff to do so properly and the man power just isn't there. As a side note, all that resourcing being utilized on Islamic fucktards means we're stretched and not paying attention to other potential security threats from completely different sources.

Mosques popping up all over the place, preaching in a language and method beyond the scope of us to understand, and taking place largely out of sight. Dozens of people willingly going to Syria and then coming back more fucked in the head. God knows how many accessing nutty literature on the internet..

They need to enact a law today, right now, that any Muslim who goes to Syria shan't be let back in without explicit approval from the Home Office. Period. Not until Syria is a stable nation again. Second, any Muslim caught delibrately accessing radical literature or seeking communication with already known terror suspects should be deported to Saudi Arabia.

But no.. we'll just remain in "solidarity" and probably just arrest Tommy Robinson again 8)

The big issue with Islam is it refuses the leash of secularism and enlightenment which the Jews and Christians have chosen to wear in the west. Even most Hindus and Buddhists who are immigrants from Asian countries assimilate well and are not that religious as Muslims.

Have you seen the polls of Muslims supporting sharia?
Why do over a dozen governments have sharia on the books?

What you wrote is very true and it's all happening:
-The Global Islamic terrorism is aimed at 2 entities.. mostly
Israel and Jews
Western world and Christians.
-Communism as in China and Russia is aimed mostly at the Western Christian world, In Russia it is also aimed at her church.
-Across the world "nationalism" includes a lot of hate towards Europe and the West along with our faith.
-This does not include our internal movements who hate the Church and want it gone.
That is not how I see it and I can only give a few examples
-Right now in the Mid East the entire Christian population is facing genocide and complete obliteration, including Coptic Christians.
-The Christian Armenian genocide in Turkey in the early 20th century that killed around 2 million.
-The largest number to be killed in World War 2 in the European Battlefield were Christians not Jews. Just in Germany alone at the end of that war around 8 to 12 Million German Christians were killed.
-Some of the most militant groups fighting for independence are Christians as in "Christ for Nagaland".
-Christians across Asia and in India are brutalized, killed and church property destroyed.
-Today in Europe Christians and Christianity is fighting a losing battle. I can explain why but I am sure you can figure that one out.
Don't forget how ISIS enslaves and murders Christians and even other Muslims who want nothing to do with them.
-Islam also hates women, gays or anyone that's not heterosexual, and people who are not muslim.

25% of the world's population is Muslim and 25% of those Muslims are Muslim extremists, according to the CIA.
those in the article are not Muslim extremists but they are Muslims who live by Sharia Law.
Muslims take several wives and fuck like rabbits, reproducing subsequent generations of stoic Muslims at an alarming rate.

the Muslims that neoliberals silly antifas people like are the far-leftist Muslims, and there aren't a hell of a lot of those, most of which are pretending to be "normal" so they may gain acceptance into western society, thereby increasing in numbers. once they become a loud minority in your nation, start shitting a brick because they will become a majority in no time.
Muslims embrace heterosexuality so men can marry as many women as possible, reproduce as many offspring as possible and fuck their way into ruling the world.
 
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