Could a military coup occur in the US? Could it make things better?

[Foreigner]

In order for it to work, you would need a cohesive enough military with a low enough abandonment rate, and a military that is resistant to financial coercion. All big things to ask for a couple to be successful in the U.S.

I mention money because the U.S. is a corporatocracy/plutocracy at this point. A handful of non-government actors are running the government. A successful coup would have to also target the wealthiest people in America and somehow redistribute their money, assuming it could be accessed. These people own most of the capital in the U.S. The coup would also have to involve the banks and the Federal Reserve.

The other issue is that American style capitalism has been exported globally. Due to globalism, any coup would probably have to involve several countries at once, which is a big thing to organize.

That said... the economic system itself, in all its dire corruption, could ensure its own kind of global coup. Eventually enough people are going to be squeezed that there would be impetus. I just hope the world's ecology isn't totally destroyed by then.

 

[Infernal]

In order for it to work, you would need a cohesive enough military with a low enough abandonment rate, and a military that is resistant to financial coercion. All big things to ask for a couple to be successful in the U.S.

I mention money because the U.S. is a corporatocracy/plutocracy at this point. A handful of non-government actors are running the government. A successful coup would have to also target the wealthiest people in America and somehow redistribute their money, assuming it could be accessed. These people own most of the capital in the U.S. The coup would also have to involve the banks and the Federal Reserve.

The other issue is that American style capitalism has been exported globally. Due to globalism, any coup would probably have to involve several countries at once, which is a big thing to organize.

That said... the economic system itself, in all its dire corruption, could ensure its own kind of global coup. Eventually enough people are going to be squeezed that there would be impetus. I just hope the world's ecology isn't totally destroyed by then.

Essentially the basic description of late-stage capitalism. Though I would say the trouble for that kind of movement is what is generally perceived as the knee-jerk protection of capital in the form of proto-fascism which I think is far more likely than a coup.

 

[noone1]

Judging by the average intelligence of slack jaw yokels that are enlisted in the US military I'd warn that a military coup is the last thing you'd want.

Stats show the people that actually run the military are a more diverse group and those are the people that would be doing the actual leading. They are still more conservative than the rest of the general population but way more liberal when compared to the actual soldiers, more beholden to the system and Constitution. I mean for real though not "everything I don't like (left wing) is against the constitution" like the majority of conservatives think.

 

[SKL]

actually enlisted people are only about 60/40 identified conservative maybe even less, there was a study on this

 

[-=SS=-]

I'm not sure what this would actually achieve and whilst shuffling the deck does tend to motivate people, get stagnant things flowing again as it were, it will inevitably just become stagnant again. Personally I used to hold the belief that some form of military action like this would change things, now I'm far too cynical (realistic IMO).

It's comparable to the average person who is looking to the politicians to change things *, or the idealists and hippies who believe that if we just get 100 like minded people to a free area we could run things better. All the while no one has bothered to really examine the main issue which causes all the problems in the first place, namely us. Until we know ourselves properly we're destined to continue becoming stagnant, the same malevolent forces at work now will simply manifest themselves again. I firmly believe it's all routed in our psychology, and that is the only place salvation will come from.

*Everyone places way too much faith in politicians to change things, Trump or otherwise. We need to take some god damn personal responsibility and perhaps consider that a solid religious/moral social and personal structure wasn't such a bad idea after all.

 

[tathra]

actually enlisted people are only about 60/40 identified conservative maybe even less, there was a study on this

there's plenty of us bleeding-heart liberals in the military, though there's also plenty of authoritarians and outright fascists who think absolutely nothing of their oath of office. all of us military liberals do though (or at least every one i know of), we take our oath to defend the constitution very seriously.

*Everyone places way too much faith in politicians to change things, Trump or otherwise. We need to take some god damn personal responsibility and perhaps consider that a solid religious/moral social and personal structure wasn't such a bad idea after all.

https://www.runforoffice.org/

srsly, look into running. one of our fellow bluelighters was recently elected into their local parliament (not saying who or where), so follow their example, get inspired, and be the change you want to see in the world.