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I see so much bitter partisan hate and all else that comes with it, lately.(talking about online and irl) I very much respect liberal opinions as I share some of them. I like most of the posters here regardless of disagreement. It is so important to have at least two prominent perspectives, and I would hate to see this country/ world without them. Sometimes emotion should play a role in decision making, though I'd say not too often.
Anyways thought I'd share and see what other thought?
 
I respect that they are trying to be nice a lot of times, but they're like flaccid penises.
 
I don't care what somebody's political beliefs are so long as they're rational and willing to debate in good faith or not at all. I have zero respect for irrational nutjobs lost in tribalism who exclusively use sophistry and only act in bad faith no matter what their views are.
 
I come from an extended family that is very divided politically but very cohesive and welcoming as a family. This new polarized reality in our country is testing these limits in a very depressing way, something that I think our loss of civility and basic respectfulness and narcissistic "culture-of-me" plays a large role in. We have created a mainstream media that both reflects and deepens the divide (while profiting from it).

I believe that you can be very passionate about your opinions and still remain respectful of those who believe quite the opposite. For instance I believe that Trump is a fascist leader who is doing irreparable harm to our culture, our institutions and our values. Most of my extended family believes that he is a "smart businessman that will bring sanity back to Washington, and strengthen our cultural values." So you can see the breadth of our divisions. I do not subscribe to the usual advice to just not discuss politics or religion in order to keep the peace in a family. I believe in discussion, I believe in debate and I believe in listening and reflecting, especially when I feel that there is a great divide to be bridged. Having said that, the internet is not somewhere I usually am willing to engage in debate--it gets really ugly really fast and it's just too much vitriol to wade through for me. Plus it tends to move too fast for me and it's exhausting.;)
 
I enjoy discussion I just hate the name calling between members that happens frequently in CE&P.

There have been many times I was wrong, and learned as a result and there are a lot of funny people and sometimes it can be a blast, I would have no interest in posting in an echo chamber of like minded ppl.

I enjoy the contrast.
 
Yes, respectfully if they truly know what they are talking about. There is more than just being a "far left" or a "far right" the difference between policy and propaganda and that n.a.t.o isn't their pet poodles nickname being a Democrat or a Republican isn't just being something but applying those moral and political values to your life and openly discussing opposition. I always can learn something from someone who is anti something that I am pro
 
That depends, only if they argue their point if they just go with "you mustn't say that" "that's racists / sexists / whatever" not a chance.
 
Droppersneck said:
I see so much bitter partisan hate and all else that comes with it, lately.(talking about online and irl) I very much respect liberal opinions as I share some of them. I like most of the posters here regardless of disagreement. It is so important to have at least two prominent perspectives, and I would hate to see this country/ world without them. Sometimes emotion should play a role in decision making, though I'd say not too often.
Anyways thought I'd share and see what other thought?
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this would be so much easier to believe if you didn't sprinkle so many of your posts with precisely the kind of partisan abuse that you claim to decry here.

actions speak louder than words, droppers. try practicing what you preach and stop calling everybody sjw, cuck, etc.?

alasdair
 
David Wooderson said:
I enjoy discussion I just hate the name calling between members that happens frequently in CE&P.
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Agree.

It's a shame but it really does seem that most "barrack" for a political team and have no interest at all in actually understanding and discussing alternative viewpoints. And this does occur on both sides.
 
alasdairm said:
this would be so much easier to believe if you didn't sprinkle so many of your posts with precisely the kind of partisan abuse that you claim to decry here.

actions speak louder than words, droppers. try practicing what you preach and stop calling everybody sjw, cuck, etc.?

alasdair
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So I cant use adjectives when making political opinions? Adjectives help the readers understand the point one is trying to make.
 
I cannot respect people who are against secularism; if you can support your beliefs with rationals and logic then by all means, have those beliefs... just can't stand it when people are like "This is a Christian cuntry!"
 
This thread is based on the perception that there are only 2 completely opposing political viewpoints and its obviously a troll thread as OP does not show any respect for anyone else besides anyone that agrees with him.



Just for his information, most people here are capable of a decent debate even if you are not.
 
herbavore said:
I come from an extended family that is very divided politically but very cohesive and welcoming as a family. This new polarized reality in our country is testing these limits in a very depressing way, something that I think our loss of civility and basic respectfulness and narcissistic "culture-of-me" plays a large role in. We have created a mainstream media that both reflects and deepens the divide (while profiting from it).

I believe that you can be very passionate about your opinions and still remain respectful of those who believe quite the opposite. For instance I believe that Trump is a fascist leader who is doing irreparable harm to our culture, our institutions and our values. Most of my extended family believes that he is a "smart businessman that will bring sanity back to Washington, and strengthen our cultural values." So you can see the breadth of our divisions. I do not subscribe to the usual advice to just not discuss politics or religion in order to keep the peace in a family. I believe in discussion, I believe in debate and I believe in listening and reflecting, especially when I feel that there is a great divide to be bridged. Having said that, the internet is not somewhere I usually am willing to engage in debate--it gets really ugly really fast and it's just too much vitriol to wade through for me. Plus it tends to move too fast for me and it's exhausting.;)
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it's all about tolerance and understanding, but I will say talking religion and politics with family is typically bad news.
zephyr said:
This thread is based on the perception that there are only 2 completely opposing political viewpoints and its obviously a troll thread as OP does not show any respect for anyone else besides anyone that agrees with him.



Just for his information, most people here are capable of a decent debate even if you are not.
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You're a moderator and you are clearly intoxicated, trolling my thread in the only forum I post in. This isn't social this is ce&p have a little respect for the difference :\
 
honestly i want to strive to love people that hold opinions which i do not support.

sometimes i do get triggered personally by posts which do touch a part of me which is raw, if i leave myself and that emotion/feeling then i can play the blame game, try and attack back.

idk if its the right or wrong thing to do but i have blocked a couple of posters which keep throwing out their eugenics and white genetic superiority theories. i'm just sick of it tbh.

only way forward is for us to empathise and bridge left+right. we all want love in whatever way we seek it
 
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