Leftist Discussion Thread

[Jabberwocky]

Japan has extremely strict immigration laws. Even with their high proportion of virgins and ageing workforce they refuse the cancer called multiculturalism. Nobody calls them racist or evil nazi bigots. It's only whites that are racists for not wanting to be bred out of existence. Paid for by their taxes I might add.

 

[spacejunk]

^ i think you're willfully ommitting the Second World War from your sob story.
Either way, this nazi nonsense is just plain stupid.

 

[tathra]

^ i think you're willfully ommitting the Second World War from your sob story.

Fascists never debate in good faith. The sooner you realize that the sooner you realize the futility of trying to have an honest discussion. And yes, everyone who supports fascism and fascist policies (ie, trump supporters) is a fascist. That's how words work - if something is described by the definition of a word you use that word to describe it. Just "telling it like it is" without caring whether it offends or hurts their feelings instead of letting myself be censored by "pc"-obsessed snowflakes, just like the fascists are constantly demanding.

 

[Jabberwocky]

^ i think you're willfully ommitting the Second World War from your sob story.
Either way, this nazi nonsense is just plain stupid.

WW2 has nothing to do with their immigration policies. They don't have a guilt complex, unlike you.

 

[spacejunk]

Hating fascists isn't guilt, supporting fascists is pathetic.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Richard Spencer isn't a fascist. I'm not surprised you would use that term, since you said it was misogyny when someone talked negatively about 1 woman.

Rejecting 3rd world immigration doesn't make someone a national socialist. In response to not easing immigration restrictions, Japanese PM Shinzo Abe is quoted as saying “particularly for unskilled foreign workers, because of the social and economic tensions that could arise from the introduction of different ethnic groups.”

 

[spacejunk]

Richard Spencer isn't a fascist. I'm not surprised you would use that term, since you said it was misogyny when someone talked negatively about 1 woman.

I'd ask for you to back that up, but i'm not terribly interested in any of your shitposting.

As for euphemisms - i'm not going to play political correctness games with fascists.
A fascist is a fascist is a fascist.
Nice to see someone socked that guy one. More of it, i say.

 

[swilow]

Fascists never debate in good faith. The sooner you realize that the sooner you realize the futility of trying to have an honest discussion. And yes, everyone who supports fascism and fascist policies (ie, trump supporters) is a fascist. That's how words work - if something is described by the definition of a word you use that word to describe it. Just "telling it like it is" without caring whether it offends or hurts their feelings instead of letting myself be censored by "pc"-obsessed snowflakes, just like the fascists are constantly demanding.

Well said. Obviously these guys see fascism or bigotry as shameful so they try and turn it into something noble like protecting "white identity". Whatever that is, because I've been told countless times that its not related to skin colour despite no-one being able to substantiate what it does relate to.

These guys are incredible with their linguistic gymnastics. I think if you are intolerant of other races you are racist, and if you are intolerant of other cultures you are a bigot and the fucking dictionary agrees.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I'd ask for you to back that up, but i'm not terribly interested in any of your shitposting.

As for euphemisms - i'm not going to play political correctness games with fascists.
A fascist is a fascist is a fascist.
Nice to see someone socked that guy one. More of it, i say.

Antifa acts like a fascist organisation in the sense they'd rather not allow people to speak or organise, they rather just attack them. Luckily they usually get their shit kicked in. Assault someone or throw bricks unprovoked--->get stabbed or beat down--->say evil nazis attacked them :D

Well said. Obviously these guys see fascism or bigotry as shameful so they try and turn it into something noble like protecting "white identity". Whatever that is, because I've been told countless times that its not related to skin colour despite no-one being able to substantiate what it does relate to.

These guys are incredible with their linguistic gymnastics. I think if you are intolerant of other races you are racist, and if you are intolerant of other cultures you are a bigot and the fucking dictionary agrees.

So the Japanese are racists and bigots?

 

[alasdairm]

Fascists never debate in good faith. The sooner you realize that the sooner you realize the futility of trying to have an honest discussion.

indeed. you can't have a rational debate with somebody who arrived at their own position irrationally.

alasdair

 

[What 23]

As if "diversity is our greatest strength" is wholly rational, and the rejection of biological differences in races that don't stop at the neck (and color of the skin).

Ha-ha.

 

[What 23]

The left has become science-denying.

 

[tathra]

As if "diversity is our greatest strength" is wholly rational, and the rejection of biological differences in races that don't stop at the neck (and color of the skin).

your failure or unwillingness to understand and accept facts doesnt make them any less true. fact is that immigration benefits the host nation economically (ie, diversity is good for the economy and growth), and a diversity of ideas and different viewpoints and different experiences from different backgrounds gives you a larger pool of possibilities and options to consider (ie, diversity is good for science and increasing information and knowledge). the more options you have to choose from, the more likely you are to have the ideal solution to whatever problem is at hand (ie, diversity is a great strength).

 

[What 23]

I never would argue that "diversity" has not strengthened us, in respects, but so has isolation. There are negatives to it as well, and more potential negatives, and this is what is being denied.

 

[What 23]

This is the thing, I'll come over to your side, but I'm not an ideologue. Your side has been for the most part unwavering, or just silent (not acknowledging facts when presented), not much different than many on the left or whoever accuse religious people. Frankly it's cult like.

 

[What 23]

Your unwillingness to accept facts doesn't make them any less true. Quit talking about yourself. And if the economy depends on unrelenting immigration then we need a new way of doing things.

 

[Soso78]

Tathra, Immigration benefits the host when it's controlled. No problem having immigrants come to a country if they are going to contribute but immigration isnt like it used to be.
Europe and england are currently accepting immigrants and refugees with no trade no skills and in some cases totally uneducated. They will not benefit the host nation what so ever.

 

[Jabberwocky]

your failure or unwillingness to understand and accept facts doesnt make them any less true. fact is that immigration benefits the host nation economically (ie, diversity is good for the economy and growth), and a diversity of ideas and different viewpoints and different experiences from different backgrounds gives you a larger pool of possibilities and options to consider (ie, diversity is good for science and increasing information and knowledge). the more options you have to choose from, the more likely you are to have the ideal solution to whatever problem is at hand (ie, diversity is a great strength).

Ah yes I'm sure mass 3rd world immigration is a tremendous benefit. So much so that it's costing germany billions per year and putting them further in debt, meanwhile some 30k migrants are actually working.

Now if you're talking about immigration between developed countries, then that's a different story.

 

[swilow]

So the Japanese are racists and bigots?

I was talking about you amongst others. Quit denying it and trying to shift the conversation. Unlike you, I don't generalize about other cultures or people.

I don't even know why you guys are posting in this thread, you've got more than enough threads in which to spew your nonsense.

 

[tathra]

Tathra, Immigration benefits the host when it's controlled. No problem having immigrants come to a country if they are going to contribute but immigration isnt like it used to be.
Europe and england are currently accepting immigrants and refugees with no trade no skills and in some cases totally uneducated. They will not benefit the host nation what so ever.

do you have anything to back up those claims? because the evidence, linke below, shows the opposite. immigrants and refugees are a boon, not a burden.

Ah yes I'm sure mass 3rd world immigration is a tremendous benefit.

thats correct. even refugees are economically beneficial to the countries they flee to.

I don't even know why you guys are posting in this thread, you've got more than enough threads in which to spew your nonsense.

cuz "leftists" (everyone to the left of fascism, which includes 'moderate conservatives' like Reagan*, Dubya*, Obama, and HRC) are teh devil, they must be attacked and demonized at every opportunity.

* whoops, even though based on their policies and positions they barely differ from BHO and HRC, tribalism is way too big a problem; policies, positions, and facts dont actually matter, what matters most is whether there's a "D" or an "R" by their name.