What23 said:
I got an incurable disease that can be spread even with condoms, and it can cause cancer. I feel bad every time I have sex now,
If you have a disease that is incurable and is sexually transmitted even when wearing a condom and you continue to have sex, you should feel bad. Do you tell the escorts that they may emerge from this encounter with an incurable condition?
But it's not just her body at that point.
No one else can reasonably tell a person what they can or cannot do with their body. I mean, you can make suggestions, but that's about the extent of it. In the context of most abortions, the fetus has no chance of suriving outside the body and independantly of the mother. To me, that suggests that the fetus is actually a part of the mother. If I choose to remove or add anything to my body, I am free to do so. This doesn't change with abortion.
Miscarriage is a bit different than an abortion tho.
It is, but my point was that these two miscarriages didn't really represent the death of a child or a human. We both grieved of course; my missus grieved in a much deeper way; but the grief was relative to the loss. Which was a loss of potentiality rather than actuality.
My girlfriend is basically anti-abortion for "lifestyle" choices and she is what you would call a hippie. She accepts the utility of a child being conceived through rape being aborted, or a sick/malformed child, or a situation in which the mother's life is at risk, but she is against people having abortions if the incoming baby is simply inconvenient.
For me, I would rather people who don't want a child to not have one. There's enough unwanted humans in the world anyway.
Why does something need to live autonomously to be considered alive?
It makes me consider that a fetus is not actually an independant being but is a part of the mother. Therefore, an abortion is an operation performed on a part of the mother. It is not some violent murder of a thinking, feeling human being as pro-lifers seem to say. Its a surgical procedure.
And what about the cases of the infant being born alive only to be killed by the abortionist?
That's awful. Is it common though? If its uncommon or anomalous, I think its irrelevant to the vast majority of abortions.
What should the "abortionist" do though- allow the fetus to suffer and die slowly, naturally, or mercifully end the process they have started?
I don't know, I find this a difficult issue that I really haven't thought enough about but plan to do some reading on both sides of the debate.
