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Recovery My journey starts today (hydromorphone)

Hey, Sixxam. Like you, I hid my addiction from my wife until I couldn't any more. And when I did finally tell her, it really broke a lot of trust between us...I hadn't thought of it in this way, but my wife felt like we had been living a lie (my lie) for four years. It's taking us a lot of time and work to build back from that. Give her time, man. Just show her that you're doing better--that's the best you can do for her and your marriage.

Aside from that, if her wounds are undermining your recovery, I strongly recommend finding a way to insulate yourself from that while you're still early on. In my case, this just means that there are certain topics I never discuss at home bc I know they will fuck everyone up. It's a shitty feeling. But it's the best compromise I've found.

I hope you're doing well today!
<3
Sim
 
Sim,

Thanks for the input man. And yes, I find that talking about a series addiction with someone who doesn't understand addiction in Any form, is not an easy task. But luckily she's really trying to be open and receptive. And doing her research. Perhaps one day, after I've been clean a while, I'll invite to read this thread.

But for now, it's my one place to just vent and be honest without judgement. I want to keep my safe place to myself for now. It's that greedy?
 
Sim,

Thanks for the input man. And yes, I find that talking about a series addiction with someone who doesn't understand addiction in Any form, is not an easy task. But luckily she's really trying to be open and receptive. And doing her research. Perhaps one day, after I've been clean a while, I'll invite to read this thread.

But for now, it's my one place to just vent and be honest without judgement. I want to keep my safe place to myself for now. It's that greedy?

I don't think it's greedy at all. We need to be able to share freely about what's going on; I believe that's crucial for addiction recovery. If this forum feels safe and therapeutic, I'd hold onto that tightly. In fact, that's exactly what I do! :)
 
Just the whole deal man, I'm just worn out and pushing myself hard. I find the most difficult part to be my partner right now. She just doesn't understand how difficult this is... Rightfully so. And the fact that everything is so foreign to me right now.... I'm having a hard time adjusting. The lack of sleep is tough to. And pain. And, well everything.

Wahh right?

Hope you guys are hanging tough!

Sixx
 
Just the whole deal man, I'm just worn out and pushing myself hard. I find the most difficult part to be my partner right now. She just doesn't understand how difficult this is... Rightfully so. And the fact that everything is so foreign to me right now.... I'm having a hard time adjusting. The lack of sleep is tough to. And pain. And, well everything.

Wahh right?

Hope you guys are hanging tough!

Sixx

Man, you're doing great, even if it doesn't feel like it! :\

I'm in a similar frame of mind and set of circumstances... I find that I have my best days when I can really focus narrowly on TODAY, and only the stuff I really need to focus on. If I let my mind wander at all, shit gets dark fast. Yes, the NA slogans "one day at a time" and "things we're powerless over" are pretty cliche. But when we're struggling against the challenges of early recovery, I think they actually are helpful.

Regardless of how you get it, I hope you get some relief, man!
 
Priceless advice brother. I've heard it a million times, but it's like I need a constant reminder. One day at a time..

Thanks sim, as always.
 
Hey sixx, just wondering if you are using any comfort meds and how many days do you have right now?
 
It does sound like Six would benefit from utilizing some comfort meds a bit more right now.

Just the whole deal man, I'm just worn out and pushing myself hard. I find the most difficult part to be my partner right now. She just doesn't understand how difficult this is... Rightfully so. And the fact that everything is so foreign to me right now.... I'm having a hard time adjusting. The lack of sleep is tough to. And pain. And, well everything.

Wahh right?

Hope you guys are hanging tough!

Sixx

I know you just started work, but is there any way you can spend more time in a more therapeutic environment than the office or home, like spending more time in nature?

Keep up the good work, and try not to push yourself too hard. That just turns the inevitable pain we face in recovery into suffering. There is no need to truly suffer in recovery, it's just a matter of learning how to manage the discomforts one experiences in early recovery more skillfully.

Facing the negative self talk so common among those in early recovery - actually so common among nearly everyone in our culture - and learning to manage adversarial thinking is THE biggest challenging and the most rewarding part of the process in early, even long term, recovery.
 
Soonerfan, I'm still taking about 3g of kratom every several hours. And am taking .05mg clonazepam before bed... Whatever that is. But that's about it. Probably gonna pick up the bud to see if it will help me sleep... Not sure yet as I get paranoid when I smoke that shit.

Tpd, I've really just been pushing myself as hard as I can. I'm finding this strange hollow grey world incredibly difficult to adjust to. At least if I keep myself busy I'm not dwelling...I find. I live in a beautiful small town in Canada, surrounded by walking trails, lake Ontario and all of nature's beauties. I really should try to get out walking with my pups more.. Matter a fact I'm going to do just that right now.

I find that I'm very very shakey, confused and lost...I suppose this is common? I know it will pass in time... But it's all so surreal.

I have my entire family coming for dinner in a week, I'm trying to decide what to do. They're all basically drug addicts and I will be surrounded with opiotes that day. I'm a little worried..... My wife knows and will keep close eye out... But seeing the shit can be tough..

I did work today for several hours... Hopefully I get some sleep tonight.

Hang tough my friends,

Sixx
 
It must be particularly difficult given the issues your wife is having with everything you're going through. I wonder if this might help...

Have you thought about writing her a love letter of sort? There is no need, and frankly I think it would trigger her, if you were to write on about your drug use and how you're struggling with kicking per se.

Instead, how about a simpler one, first talking about how much she means to you. Think back to the best times in your relationship, reminisce with her for a second about these, and reflect upon how many wonderful things you two still have yet to do and experience together as partners in this business of life.

Then, perhaps, simply ask for her help. Not in terms of her helping you manage this new start or keeping you on the right side of the line, but for her patience, understanding and compassion for what what you, and her, are going through right now. Express how what you want to do most of all when it comes to her is to love her and support her. And how what you are doing for yourself now is to going to be necessary in allowing you to do so. Frame this all in terms of how you are well on your way to starting a new chapter in life. Express your wish that she find compassion for how she has been affect by the consequences of your previous lifestyle. As her for help as you establish healthy self care practices and habits, and the important role you both play in supporting cultivate a healthier lifestyle.

Share with her how much you are struggling, about the grayness of the world you're currently inhabiting, how you are struggling to find a place between pushing yourself so hard to get healthier and not getting to overwhelmed by all the effort you are putting into this. Emphasize that your struggles are not with your relationship with her, but with your transitioning to a healthier lifestyle. Tell her that you are struggling with mustering enough compassion to care for yourself during this transition. Ask her for her compassion, to see what you're doing now for what it is: a challenging, painful, beautiful process.

Emphasize how all you want to do in your relationship with her is to see her happy and health, and how you know that this is what she ultimately wants for you. Emphasize your struggle with maintaining balance as things change so radically in your lifestyle, how it is so easy to get caught up in your fears and your anxieties for the future, and how challenging it can be to remain in the here and now with what your doing. And how being present for yourself is what you need more than anything, not to dwell on the past for perseverate on throughs of the future.

And simply tell her how much she means to you, how it is so important to get healthy, not just for yourself but also for the wellbeing of your most important relationship. And tell her that you love her. And then leave it under her pillow or something with a flower (does she have a favorite variety?). When you're writing the letter, perhaps after the first draft, reread it with an eye to how the way you word things or what you're writing about might end up triggering her. You can always find ways of rewriting things, simply using different words, in order to express whatever it is you need to express in kind and gentle ways as opposed to triggering ways.

Of not of course ;) But if this sounds like a good idea, I have often found and heard very positive feedback about how useful such a kind of love letter can be in helping to navigate the difficulties of maintain a healthy spousal relationship early in recovery.

I hope you get some sleep! And that the woods treated you well!! That is one of my favorite self care practices. There is actually this Japanese clinical treatment called "Forest Bathing." They found that spending 45 minutes a day walking through the forest to be more effect when dealing with depression than antidepressants alone. IME there is more than something to this technique.
 
Tpd, man, that's actually a fantastic idea! I'm the kinda guy that does that shit quite often so it's definitively not outta character.

I really dig the approach of centring it around us, and healing vs my deciept and drug use. This will take me a few drafts, but luckily being up all night, every night will give me plenty time. Man, I really have to thank you for your genuine concern for others....... What you're doing is some next level business. I hope to one day give back in such a selfless way.... Thank you, my friend

I did get out for a nice walk,i enjoyed it, but man was it cold. -27 out. I bundled up. But I feel like my bones are cold.

I can smell the air, and snow, and wife's cooking. What an odd but interesting feeling.

Hope everyone's hanging tough tonight.. Thinking of you all

Sixx
 
Damn, TPD...the love letter is a great idea! I'm going to do that one myself.

Sixx, that's awesome that you got out into cold and snow. I hope it left you with a nice warm afterglow.
 
Another strange day. I'm way too slow and dumb to be working. I have used these specific machines everyday for years, and now it's like they're totally foreign to me. Blah

When I take the kratom I get a very brief half hour of half ass clarity. Now that I'm not noticing anymore physical withdrawals I should probably taper off. Kind of in limbo ATM.

Getting about two hours sleep each night.. Taking only .05mg lorazepam before bed. Switching back to my .25mg clonazepam later this week..

Just feeling quite blah....

Hope you guys are all kicking ass still..

Sixx
 
Another strange day. I'm way too slow and dumb to be working. I have used these specific machines everyday for years, and now it's like they're totally foreign to me. Blah

When I take the kratom I get a very brief half hour of half ass clarity. Now that I'm not noticing anymore physical withdrawals I should probably taper off. Kind of in limbo ATM.

Getting about two hours sleep each night.. Taking only .05mg lorazepam before bed. Switching back to my .25mg clonazepam later this week..

Just feeling quite blah....

Hope you guys are all kicking ass still..

Sixx

All typical feeling bro...You're like me--I'll have the most ruthless addiction in dosages that would make people cringe, and then I just cold-turkey and keep falling forward. Benzos are the only drug you obviously can't do this with...

As much as Kratom helps and I'm no preacher but Kratom can get pretty fucking ugly and the depression it causes is REALLY REALLY bad...

Start lifting weights
 
Enlightened, thanks for your input!

I haven't taken kratom in 9 hours and I actually feel fine. A week ago I would have been rolling my skin off. I'll start spreading it out and taper off. I've been on it just over two weeks so it shouldn't be too tough.... So I think... huh. I don't like it, more of a security blanket I suppose.

Yeah, were a special kind aren't we... Go big or go home!

I took 1mg of lorazepam and laid in bed for 6 hours, sleep about half that. Was nice!

Another day down, my friends.Hang tough.....

Sixx
 
Thanks sim, you da man!

I grabbed some green tonight... Gonna see if the natural sleep aid will help. Let's just hope I don't get to paranoid lol..

Today was OK. All though I'm in a lot of pain..
 
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