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alasdairm said:
i do not equate them but there aren't very many rebel flag wavers in the north :)

where do i claim to be superior? post a link where i have said that and i'll eat my hat.

alasdair
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You never have to claim superiority when you "take the moral high ground" in an argument.

You are generally fair but still lean left.
 
alasdairm said:
i do not equate them but there aren't very many rebel flag wavers in the north :)

where do i claim to be superior? post a link where i have said that and i'll eat my hat.

alasdair
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There is not a single unequivocal, unambiguous statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus himself says "I am God" or where he says "worship me" and yet, all Christians believe him to be God. You also don't have to say "I am the Admin of this forum" for people to know you are the Admin :)

In regards to race and immigration, I am completely pro-immigration provided it is highly efficient in background checks to stop criminals from entering USA. However, if I was Trump, I would put a mandatory condition on all immigrants: for them to come into the USA, they have to marry a settler or be single.

If this condition was in place early on in the 40s, we wouldn't be having this conversation about race because all Americans, by now, would look alike. They will all have a slightly tanned skin tone with features from asian/black/indian/arab. And if a Muslim abides by Surah Al-Baqarah Chapter 2 Verse 221 which says "Do not marry an unbeliever until he/she believes", then they cannot beget in USA, even if they have 10 pHDs and have a proven cure for cancer.

I mean, Ann has a decent point, there's generations of Pakistanis, Indians and Muslims who, for 3 generations were living in USA, and you can't tell for the sake of you if they're American, because they changed nothing ever since they came. They have the same religion, the same habits, the same culture, the same hobbies, the same clothes and honestly, if Muslims gathered by the 1000s on the street, you would mistaken Wall Street for Saudi Arabia.

That's a problem.

I'm an immigrant coming from Romania to Canada, and I am aware that my differences make locals uncomfortable. I know that my accent might prompt locals to make extra efforts in understanding me and I do my best to be more in line with local trends. One thing I do not do is I do not parade in the street like a mental retard asking people to validate me and praise me for the way I am and I don't call locals biggots when they complain that they can't read my name. In fact I changed my name to something easy to read.

I worked in call-centers and I can relate to locals in reading Muslim names...you can't tell the first name from the last name, you can tell gender, you can't tell anything, and when you write it down, you need to double-check letter by letter to make sure you have it right. It's so frustrating. And then this Indian dude asks to speak with my manager about how previous reps got his name wrong twice in a row. I told him no, you're not speaking to the manager, I will address your issue. The fucking name was Goytom Afe****r. I never got mad when my name was spelled wrong. Holy fucking expectations that come our way! Hello?

Where does this retard movement come from where you enter a foreign country with the expectation that you should be having your way?
 
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David Wooderson said:
You never have to claim superiority when you "take the moral high ground" in an argument.

You are generally fair but still lean left.
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thanks for the tacit admission that your claim was baseless.

David Wooderson said:
Why are liberals so personally offensive?
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two wrongs don't make a right but you don't seem to behave any better. lolirony.

alasdair
 
Jesus, dude, there's nothing wrong with being different. Looking alike, having the same name, etc. shouldn't be a goal here.

Speaking* the language and accepting that people are different should be a goal. As should be being a legal immigrant. (I agree with closing the border, enforcing strict background checks, and providing a path to legality for the current immigrants here.)


There are plenty of people that have pride in their ethnicity and they can parade all they want -it's their right to do so here.


As for someone getting angry that their name was mispronounced... well, I don't think that's indicative of everyone in that ethnicity/religion/whatever feeling that way. I'll counter it by saying I grew up in a very multicultural school district, neighborhood, and I deal with a buttload of Indian people professionally (the vast majority being recent immigrants with deep accents and while they're professionals in career, they maintain their cultural tendencies e.g. being rude as fuck) and they don't even get mad when their names are screwed up. They kinda expect it.


*being fluent in the language should be a prerequisite to becoming a naturalized citizen
 
Id venture to say that forcing someone to learn a native language of Anglo origin is considered racist, Phro. They take the Statue of Liberty literally. If you ever want to go into debating a liberal about enforcing immigration law start out by saying you want the Statue of Liberty torn down. They will start studdering 90% of the time from the get go. Man debating my bro in law, who works for dnc, has talk me some good tactics!
 
Guys, you take what I say ad literam and are missing the point. The political correctness around ethnicity and immigration near misses the concept of the Scotiabank Coffee Cup:

Scotiabank employees working in a branch are taught to serve coffee to waiting customers "you're the host and they are your guests". If employees don't do it they get disciplined or fired. This is company policy, because the customer is getting a benefit out of it. Psychologists found that customers draw 3 possible benefits out of it:

1) They don't have to prepare the coffee themselves so it saves them energy and the hassle of having to prepare it.
2) The customer feels like a guest inside someone's home and gets nice and comfortable while also benefiting from the stimulation of caffeine.
3) The customer finds joy in watching the employee in a position of inferiority, working under pressure to serve HIM coffee and knowing that if he doesn't do it, he will be fired at once.

Many customers agree they draw more benefit out of point number 3 than from the coffee itself. Some customers draw so much benefit from point number 3, that they drink coffee even if it harms their health. Some order it and don't drink it at all just to carefully watch the servitude gestures that the employee does, pouring the coffee, adding sugar and other movements.

If you carefully analyze the policy, it is politically correct, and if the employee objects to it, he goes against ethics, political correctness, social standards and even good manners. However, when you dig deep under the surface, you find that, under the mask of political correctness and good manners associated with the practice, lies an insulting relationship of servitude, identical to a nigger fetching his white master a cup of water in 1780.

It is only by deep analysis of dictionary definitions that you uncover the manipulation: The employee is described as the host, but the definition of a host is a person having paperwork to prove ownership of the real estate in which the guest is hosted at. A person who does not legally own the property in which a guest has entered, and is serving the guest coffee is called a servant, a valet or a maid and is in a position of distinct inferiority.

This type of hypocrisy and dishonesty runs deep in the democratic values. Democrats are doing far worst things to immigrants than republicans, and mask that as fair, equal treatment for all. They turn you into a shitty maid and publicly proclaim you as a host. Disgusting. I prefer a republican being transparent and complaining about my accent than a shitty liar democrat who puts honey on the tip of his dick and tells the 4 y.o. girl he mishandled the last of it, as a definition of his social mechanics. After-all, it's a sin to throw out food when poor kids in Africa have nothing to eat. It's all in the books, and is politically correct beyond belief.
 
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The theater must always safe place? I thought these SJW were out of control. What ever happened to speaking your mind?

Fuck PC culture

amirite?
 
Ksa said:
Scotiabank employees working in a branch are taught to serve coffee to waiting customers "you're the host and they are your guests". If employees don't do it they get disciplined or fired. This is company policy, because the customer is getting a benefit out of it. Psychologists found that customers draw 3 possible benefits out of it:

1) They don't have to prepare the coffee themselves so it saves them energy and the hassle of having to prepare it.
2) The customer feels like a guest inside someone's home and gets nice and comfortable while also benefiting from the stimulation of caffeine.
3) The customer finds joy in watching the employee in a position of inferiority, working under pressure to serve HIM coffee and knowing that if he doesn't do it, he will be fired at once.

Many people agree that many customers draw more benefit out of point number 3 than from the coffee itself.
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Many people agree that many people think this way? That's a lot of manys for a scientific statement. Can you provide the study you're referencing? I tried searching for "Scotiabank Coffee Cup psychology", but didn't see anything.
 
listened to a podcast with the creator of dilbert. was saying that he was a trained hypnotist and he thinks that trump is the most technically skilled persuader he has seen. trump speaks in very visual descriptors which register more easily in our minds. anyway i think we should stick together and accept <3 eachother

welcome president trump
 
^ I suspect it was a bit of a joke although the context is a little different than it's used in the "PC culture;" remember he also calls it a "sacred" space, I read that to mean he is saying something more like theatre is art and performance ought to be dignified and a bit more formal and so on (remember not too long ago people used to dress halfway decently and so on. What Mike Pence was doing watching that ridiculous particular piece of theatre boggles the mind though.

spacejunk said:
Great to see the left fucking shit up in the USA.
Raise hell, kids.
No justice, no peace.
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I don't see political action. I see crybaby Millenials congregating around hashtags. Trump will be our next president. What is there to protest, seriously? What do they hope to achieve by "taking it to the streets?" It's not like the election is contested. But seriously. Nobody's "fucking shit up." Their protesting with generic, anodyne politics of triggers and feels. The number of people complaining about their feelings about Trump being elected in such emotive terms is quite surprising. That it took place after the first election of Bush I is understandable, given the controversy around that election, although I think this is even worse.

I was reading in the Times today that [presumably public] schools were offering emotional counseling to students who were "traumatized" by the outcome of the election.

Can you imagine??
 
I dunno, i think people vowing to disrupt Trump's every act as president as pretty inspiring, considering how insipid the american left have been for the last 50-odd years.

It's better than sticking your fingers in your ears and pretending your country isn't sliding into authoritarianism.

The Republicans were happy to shut the country down in 2013 - why shouldn't "we the people" do the same thing?
I thought fighting tyranny was some American virtue?
 
I'm not exactly a Trump fan, but to judge him by who he gets the most riled up, I've got to hand it to him :)

"Authoritarianism ... tyranny" are strong words with little backing; the U.S. is certainly experiencing a sort of mixed corporate-government creeping totalitarianism involving among other things the Internet and everything we do being tracked, by the eroding of our constitutional rights (especially provisions regarding search and seizure, due process, and bearing ams) and by increasingly proficient and subtle uses of propaganda (as well as very blatant propaganda cf. the media's attacks on Trump who yet somehow went on to win) but also by "political correctness" which is basically about "thought-crime" ... but none of this is Trump's work. Why blame a man who's not even president yet for a process that's been going on for years ("sliding into authoritarianism?") Apart from a few offhand comments (which, from what we've learned about the man over the course of the campaign, mean very little) which have been rather overinterpreted by some media exegetes, what suggests that Trump will be more of a "tyrant" than Obama or Bush II (or a potential Hillary presidency, possibly the worst prospect of all.)
 
Maybe it's a symbolic gesture, but seeing people give a big "fuck you" to trump and his fringe-dwelling trollbot support network warms my heart.
 
I'm waiting to see what he actually does before judging him but just seeing the slime he's surrounding himself with, we're fucked. Say goodbye to legal weed everyone the only thing holding back the DEA is Obama, Trumps attorney general is extremely anti-pot 8 months ago he criticized Obama for saying cannabis is safer than alcohol. Anyone citing when Trump said he would leave it up to the states is delusional, Trump says a lot of things.

Also abortion in a lot of states too and of course they only care about fetuses, once they're babies they're fine with letting them starve and die of natural diseases. We're going to become a third world shithole pretty quickly if Trump lets his VP and the republicans run wild.

I'm also scared and telling any leftists to arm themselves. These people are fucking whack jobs who live in their own reality. They are so dumb they think the majority of protestors are being paid by Soros or whatever insanity. I mean think about that, these braindead shitheads will be fine with sending these people to camps or killing them because they aren't real people anyways they are part of the (((globalists)))
 
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