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Heard an interview with the duke of Westminster, he was asked if he had an tips for budding entrepreneurs, he replied "it helps if your ancestors were friends with William the conqueror".

Made me laugh, but completely unhelpful I'm afraid.
 
On line cam time my mate. Get ur best y fronts on and advertise your services. Remember not to go to far too soon as you need to keep em paying. Party tricks always get more dollars. We know u got plenty
 
On line cam time my mate. Get ur best y fronts on and advertise your services. Remember not to go to far too soon as you need to keep em paying. Party tricks always get more dollars. We know u got plenty

Hey, I do that shit for free.. ;)

I was referring to a foolproof gambling system...


Shagsticks! Just lost £30 because some cunt decided to score in the 94th minute!

This is why I take drugs. At least I get a buzz for 5 fuckin minutes...
 
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There are a few proffesional gamblers in the UK, and a few at that. The gambling industry hates winners and loves a good loser, will take your money in seconds and take weeks to give it back.

Honestly there are some good sites out there that offer good tips but have you seen the explosion in the gambling scene and how many sites have erupted, there is always new bookies about.

If you win often, you get banned or restricted. The industry gets away with murder.

Saying that if you want some easy cash there is a guaranteed profit system you can use where you use the bonus on offer on new sites to make a guaranteed win, I can post a little more if you want to know how, it takes time but its 100% guaranteed profit, but you can only do it once.

I have gambled for over 15 years daily, started with all the roulete, casino etc its not worth it. Sports is the way to go, with a little research you can actually "beat" the bookies by getting info on teams etc before the bookies have researched them. Anyway im gibbering now, im up and down up and down, I have no patience. I find people who dont take drugs, are smart heh, and patient can make a tidy profit. But I want it all NOW and I end up blowing it all fast, pun intended.

Crackdown on rip-off gambling companies

Andrew Ellson, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
October 21 2016, 12:01am, The Times

Bookmakers will be brought before the competition watchdog to explain why the industry has been cancelling winning bets and refusing to pay out money to punters, The Times has learnt.

The Competition and Markets Authority will announce an inquiry today into terms and conditions for online betting accounts that, critics say, allow bookmakers to act with impunity.

Customers say that betting companies have been using the small print of contracts to deny them promotions, alter odds on successful bets and place unfair curbs on winning accounts.

Claims have also emerged that the industry has been using the excuse of money laundering rules unfairly to refuse withdrawals from winning accounts without applying the same checks to customers who lose.

The internet gambling industry has grown rapidly in Britain, with punters losing a total of £3.5 billion online last year, equivalent to almost £75 for every adult in the country. The British-based industry has doubled in size between 2010 and last year, though until recently most online operators were overseas, meaning that they were not obliged to submit figures to the Gambling Commission.

Campaigners say that soaring profits have come at the expense of the basic principle that some people are allowed to win. Brian Chappell, founder of the campaign group Justice4Punters, said: “The industry used to work on the basis that 98 per cent of people lost and 2 per cent won but the bookies have created an environment over the last decade where they will only trade with people who are hopeless or, worse, have a gambling problem. Nowadays that 2 per cent of winners very quickly find their accounts closed or restricted.”

He added: “The only people the bookies allow to win are convenience accounts — MPs who lobby for them or media people who talk about the industry in glowing terms.”

Mr Chappell described dozens of cases where winning customers were denied payouts or had their betting restricted. “Customers who show any skill or talent are often restricted to 5p or 10p bets to stop them making any money,” he said. “Odds are sometimes reduced on a winning horse after the race has finished. In one case we fought, a customer was paid £1,600 rather than £2,700 on a winning bet after the bookie refused to honour the odds promised. The terms and conditions apparently allow that, but how can it be fair?”

He said that bookmakers sometimes used the excuse of money laundering checks to stop or slow the withdrawal of winnings. “Often if a winning punter wants to withdraw money they will demand to see his ID, for example, by asking him to send a picture next to a passport, but then they will say the details came through incomplete or the picture was fuzzy, forcing the customer to jump through hoop after hoop to get their cash. They never make such rigorous checks when you are losing money,” he said.

“In one case, a bookie refused to pay £35,000 won in an online casino on a lucky day. They dressed it up as social responsibility by asking questions about who was funding the account, even though they never asked those questions when the punter was losing money. It’s double standards.”

In 2014 the competition watchdog took over powers from the Office of Fair Trading to investigate unfair terms. It can make bookmakers provide whatever information it deems “necessary to identify whether unfair terms and notices are in use”.

If the watchdog finds against a bookmaker, it can force a change of terms and conditions, which raises the prospect of the industry having to explain to gamblers that over the medium to long term they will never be allowed to win. The watchdog can also force bookmakers to allow winning punters staking small amounts to keep their accounts open.

Clive Hawkswood, of the Remote Gambling Association, said: “If there are faults on the industry’s part then it’s right that the Competition and Markets Authority shines a light on them and that we can collectively learn lessons from that. I don’t believe the inquiry will find widespread failings. However, we will obviously co-operate with the CMA and stand ready to work with them and the Gambling Commission to implement any necessary improvements that are required.”/quote]
 
Research "Arbitage Betting" or as its called in the industry "Matched Betting" and make a nice grand - 2 grand or so for a one off. Then dont gamble again.

https://www.arbing.co.uk/matched-betting.

Betting arbitrage, miraclebets, surebets, sports arbitraging is a particular case of arbitrage arising on betting markets due to either bookmakers' different opinions on event outcomes or plain errors. When conditions allow, by placing one bet per each outcome with different betting companies, the bettor can make a profit regardless of the outcome. Mathematically arbitrage occurs when there are a set of odds, which represent all mutually exclusive outcomes that cover all state space possibilities (i.e. all outcomes) of an event, whose implied probabilities add up to less than 1.[1] In the bettors' slang an arbitrage is often referred to as an arb; people who use arbitrage are called arbersArbitrage betting involves relatively large sums of money, given that 98% of arbitrage opportunities return less than 1.2%.[2] The practice is usually detected quickly by bookmakers, who typically hold an unfavorable view of it, and this can result in half of an arbitrage bet being canceled. Arbitrage betting is almost always insufficiently profitable due to detection, unreliable betting websites, limiting of stakes, hackers, and scammers that use high percentage arbitrages to trick bettors into providing security credentials.


Its the only way I can guarantee you can win money.
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Never bet more than you could afford to lose.

When building up an accumulator, cover additional, alternate scenarios with each of your individual events failing but the others succeeding. That way, you will have a bit of insurance, without going for the full Yankee / Canadian / Heinz 57. (Just 6 lines for a 5-way accumulator: one line all right, and five lines each with one wrong. Use the odds to choose your stake on each line to win the desired amount. You strike me as not afraid of maths .....)

Trust your gut instinct.

But the best way to make money out of gambling is to
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Open a casino
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Isn't there a thread on this with some facts about what bots you can use and the math behind it (I cannot remember who used to post about it in here).
 
... about what bots you can use and the math behind it...

Julie?

I cannot rememberthemember who was constantly caining 1000's of £ gambling online... but they cannot have been posting too long ago, and if some of their discussion is still knocking around that might be a good place to surf into this particular gem.

I know this doesn't help much but we used to have a poster that would win and lose thousands of pounds playing online poker and stuff, just cannot remember who they are.

Does anyone else feel like their use and abuse may have fucked up their memory a bit?

Sorry for going OT - could do with this info now in time for chrimbo.

Just remind us that I made this post if and when it's found xx
 
Isn't there a thread on this with some facts about what bots you can use and the math behind it (I cannot remember who used to post about it in here).

TheSpade used to be an avid proponent of such software and technique. He taught me how to scam online casinos by 'bonus hunting' and using a bit of software. Basically you let it play all day for you and at the end you were more likely than not to have made a hundred or two.

It was totally time consuming and you had to immerse yourself entirely in the world of online casinos / forever registering / sending ID etc

Made a nice little profit in a short enough space of time but it wasn't worth the chats with Spade tbh ;)

@stee: benzos have definitely fucked my memory, most of my 20s are a blur.
 
I think it was TheSpade Bella but with regards to my thoughts I'm just probably better off just keeping them to myself for the time being before I dig myself a deeper hole... the cracks are widening in my mental health continuously at the moment. Hopefully the silly season will kick in soon so I can just blend in with the rest of societal mess.
 
Yah, t'was Spade that was using bots to make a few tokens playing online Blackjack.

I stay away from gambling for the most part. I play the odd game of cards and do the lottery now and again but nothing else. I've never placed a bet in a bookmakers.

Man of virtue, me %)
 
... about what bots you can use and the math behind it...
Oh, alright ..... Here we go. Let's talk maths. Warning, contains equations. No responsibility accepted for any 8( nor :? as a result of reading this post. The equations have lots of variables in them, but only require adding, subtracting, multiplying and dividing (and remembering that you multiply things before you add them.)

Suppose the odds on an event upon which you are betting are M:N. That means if you put a bet of £N on and your prediction was correct, you win £M plus your £N stake back. So the total prize P for a stake of £S is given by
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P = S * (1 + M / N)  {1}
In an accumulator, the prize money from each event (not including the returned stake, which is only added to the final prize) is used as the stake for the next event. So in a 3-way accumulator, with odds of M1:N1, M2:N2 and M3:N3, the prize is given by
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P = S * (1 + [PLAIN][[/PLAIN]M[sub]1[/sub] * M[sub]2[/sub] * M[sub]3[/sub][PLAIN]][/PLAIN] / [PLAIN][[/PLAIN]N[sub]1[/sub] * N[sub]2[/sub] * N[sub]3[/sub][PLAIN]][/PLAIN])  {2}
  = S * (M[sub]1[/sub] * M[sub]2[/sub] * M[sub]3[/sub] + N[sub]1[/sub] * N[sub]2[/sub] * N[sub]3[/sub]) / N[sub]1[/sub] * N[sub]2[/sub] * N[sub]3[/sub]
Now, if you want to provide full cover for three events, you would also place three two-way accumulators and three individual bets -- this is known as a Lucky Seven. Full cover for four events involves eleven accumulators (= 1 + 4 + 6) plus four individual bets -- this is known as a Yankee.

Often, you don't need full cover, because you are confident enough in one or more of your predictions for it not to be worth covering certain lines. If you create your own permutations ("perms") then you can also adjust the stake on each line; so that whichever of them is correct, the amount you win will be the same. If we rearrange equation {2}, then we get
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S = P * N[sub]1[/sub] * N[sub]2[/sub] * N[sub]3[/sub] / (N[sub]1[/sub] * N[sub]2[/sub] * N[sub]3[/sub] + M[sub]1[/sub] * M[sub]2[/sub] * M[sub]3[/sub])  {3}
which allows us to calculate the stake £S required, on a combination of events with odds M1:N1, M2:N2 ..... Mn:Nn, to win a total prize of £P.

I had a system for betting on the fixed-odds football coupons. This coupon has the odds of a home win, away win or draw for each match being played on a particular day, and you can cover any combination of results; although there is usually a minimum of three matches, or five if any of your selection includes a home win.

A football match can have three possible outcomes: A home win, a draw or an away win. The home team often have the advantage of familiar turf (literally!) but on any given match day, there are bound to be some matches where a weak team are entertaining a stronger visiting team. These are likely to result in an away win or a draw.

My system involved picking four most likely home wins and one most likely away win, or three most likely home wins and two most likely away wins; and then saying that any one of those matches could end up being a draw (but your predictions should be sound enough as a team you are sure will win, will at least manage to hold their opponents).

Call the odds for a win (home or away, as applicable) MW1:NW1, MW2:NW2, MW3:NW3, MW4:NW4 and MW5:NW5
and the odds for a draw MD1:ND1, MD2:ND2, MD3:ND3, MD4:ND4 and MD5:ND5. Then you need to cover the following lines:

W1, W2, W3, W4, W5
D1, W2, W3, W4, W5
W1, D2, W3, W4, W5
W1, W2, D3, W4, W5
W1, W2, W3, D4, W5
W1, W2, W3, W4, D5
and possibly, if you have called both matches 4 and 5 as away wins, you might want to cover
W1, W2, W3, D4, D5
as well; just in case both home teams you picked to lose end up scoring late equalisers. It probably will work out cheap to cover this line.

In each case, you modify equation {3} by extending it to five events; and then use it to calculate your stake Sn on each line, using the appropriate win or draw odds for each match, so as to win the same total prize P whichever line comes up.
Code:
S = P * N[sub]1[/sub] * N[sub]2[/sub] * N[sub]3[/sub] * N[sub]4[/sub] * N[sub]5[/sub] / (N[sub]1[/sub] * N[sub]2[/sub] * N[sub]3[/sub] * N[sub]4[/sub] * N[sub]5[/sub] + M[sub]1[/sub] * M[sub]2[/sub] * M[sub]3[/sub] * M[sub]4[/sub] * M[sub]5[/sub])  {4}
If all five of your selected matches can go as predicted, or even if any one of them turns out to be a draw, you will win the same prize.

Probably the easiest thing to do is make up a spreadsheet in LibreOffice Calc (and I'm not really a fan of spreadsheets. But, I have written a program to automatically generate a spreadsheet of sales figures and e-mail it to a tie-wearer. He likes spreadsheets and reports. And I basically get to skive off for as long as he thinks it would have taken me to compile the sheet by hand. Which I did once or twice, just to be sure I knew how to do it properly; then I wrote a program to get the computer to do it all for me). The various M and N figures can be entered into cells, with another cell where you enter the amount you wish to win. Then, you just use "=" formulas to work out the amount that you must stake on each line in order to secure the desired prize.
 
Not fan of the on-line variety of casino. If I am going to lose money and get entertained, I'd rather play in person.

Can anyone explain consistent luck with slot machines? I've kept track in a casual way over the last 10 years and I estimate I am not only even but actually win about 75%.
 
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