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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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RedLeader said:
I find it kind of strange how many conservatives love Assange but hate Snowden
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I don't even know that you can make that type of statement anymore, either literally or in the implication that there is a unitary "Conservative" movement or ideology group in the US, which there never really was.
 
No comments on the FBI letter? I guess this is the October surprise. Too early to tell if it will have any effect on the polls. Republicans think this is a bombshell and Democrats think it's no big deal, just more of her damn emails. It's probably somewhere in the middle.

It's troubling that a presidential candidate is going to be investigated leading into their term but at the same time they don't even know what's in those e-mails or if they're relevant at all. Also the alternative is to vote for Trump and I can't fathom anyone at this point flipping to him because of this, but who knows.

His poll numbers are naturally going up anyways without the fbi letter, as they where predicted to so this gives a false sense of winning. The tears are going to be so salty and delicious on November 9th if he loses.
 
The polls are all over the place so who knows. One had hillary go up 7 points in ohio and trump up +3 in florida in 1 day.

Something big must be going on behind closed doors for Comey to announce this so close to the election. I wonder if the president has turned on her. He's already cancelled several campaign appearances for her. This is really bad for her, especially since more leaks will probably come out in the next week.
 
Ryan01 said:
The polls are all over the place so who knows. One had hillary go up 7 points in ohio and trump up +3 in florida in 1 day.
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The polls haven't taken this into account yet and they are predicted to tighten up as the election gets closer and closer also there are always outliers. She's doing better against Trump right now than Obama was against Romney at this point.

Something big must be going on behind closed doors for Comey to announce this so close to the election. I wonder if the president has turned on her. He's already cancelled several campaign appearances for her. This is really bad for her, especially since more leaks will probably come out in the next week.
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The letter specifically said they haven't even looked at the e-mails yet. Potentially thousands. This could back fire in their face, people worried that she's not doing well will vote for her. Of course it might rally Republicans who where going to sit out. Anyways of course the polls aren't prophecy it's possible to get struck by lightning three times in the same day, highly improbable but possible.
 
Forget Labels/Ideology. Do you want to elect THE MOST CORRUPT and POWERMAD person on Earth that will start WWIII with Russia ? It's that simple.
 
MMT said:
Forget Labels/Ideology. Do you want to elect THE MOST CORRUPT and POWERMAD person on Earth that will start WWIII with Russia ? It's that simple.
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You must mean Trump, corrupt power mad add in unable to hold back outbursts and childish remarks and you gave a good definition of him as well. Do over 2016 lets hang the both of them and move on as a country!
 
Escher's Waterfall said:
Calling either Trump or Clinton the most corrupt and powermad person on earth is hyperbole.
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A lot of people use hyperbole. A lot of other people hate it when they do. Why do so many have a problem with it? It's usually clear when it is hyperbole. Most people don't go overboard with it. Message boards like blue light are casual .

You can ask the poster to be more specific. Also, talk of WWIII is not so extremely hyperbolic as it would have been 16 years ago. Although unlikely, ot is now a possibility. The situation in the middle east has the traditional world powers involved. Either an impulsive or a hawkish president could set it off.
 
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Yeah, it kinda does seem like someone out there's about to whack a metaphorical Austrian prince, doesn't it? only question is who it will be. I highly doubt it'll be "WWIII" as imagined as we were growing up, that it is, those of us old enough to grow up being scared by seeing Soviet missiles and shit on parade on analog TV. But some shit is gonna go down, I'm pretty sure, and perhaps it'll exceed our the convenient little fighting–cages of the Middle East, Africa, or Latin America that kept us busy from around 1948 to the present time, but who knows?
 
What people don't realize is that Hilary already reached the top of her career in terms of politics culminating with the discovery of a hidden private server in her basement. Trump, a stranger to politics and he defeated 10 major politicians in this race, and is about to defeat Hilary. It's like a lawyer enrolling into a chemistry program, and within a year, publishing an organic chemistry paper with a new discovery, that puts to shame 10s of reputable chemistry research professors, some with 2 or 3 PhDs.

What you have to realize is that Trump is on a steep ascension, while Hilary, things will only go down hill for her at this point. So it's a matter of knowing which train to hop into, the one going downhill with no brakes and 100,000 ton payload? Or the Trump train? What you also must come to know is the severity of finding a private server in Hilary's basement. Everything was hidden and covered up, so it got no media coverage, but that event is no less grievous, than police braking a wall in your house and finding the dead body of a child wrapped in a plastic bag, with flies buzzing around. It is an ABOMINATION.

Shameful, disgusting, disappointing, these words don't work to describe that finding. The only word I can come up with that can accurately paint this picture is ABOMINATION.

WAAAAHHHHH!!!!??? WOOOWW!!! WOW!
 
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SKL said:
Yeah, it kinda does seem like someone out there's about to whack a metaphorical Austrian prince, doesn't it?
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It does feel like we're on the precipice of some awful unavoidable collapse/war.

Cold war bullshit cyber warfare propaganda etc

I think New Zealand might be the safest place to run away to...8(
 
^ In world war II, Hilary would face the firing squad for having a private communication system. She should be imprisoned or shot. What I don't understand is why is everyone acting like everything's fine and that it's all pink cotton candy?

Trey Gowdy put in place that piece of shit FBI director for obstructing the FBI investigation into Clinton's e-mails, and now all of a sudden we have an actual investigation going on.
 
Ksa said:
What you have to realize is that Trump is on a steep ascension, while Hilary, things will only go down hill for her at this point.
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Well yes, when you're all the way at the very bottom the only way to go is up. But unless the Republicans election fraud campaign and their brown shirts succeed in voter suppression, his path to victory is nonexistent.
 
I can think of a way for h8m to win even this late. All he has to do is sat he's sorry for a few of the worst things he's said.
But I believe he is trying to lose on purpose and will sabotage himself yet again if he pills ahead.
 
socko said:
I can think of a way for h8m to win even this late. All he has to do is sat he's sorry for a few of the worst things he's said.
But I believe he is trying to lose on purpose and will sabotage himself yet again if he pills ahead.
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I don't think you're properly tuned in with reality, you probably need to shift the frequency up or down by a couple of KHz there socko. Americans are in a position where they need to worry about the next meal they are going to eat, if any...Americans cannot afford the luxury of not having their feelings broken, as you may find out soon, that pride and political correctness has a bitter taste on an empty stomach. Enjoying the luxury of your president rubbing your feelings the right way can only come on a filled belly, and can only be a red cherry on top of a nice big cake. A cherry on an empty plate will not feed you and your family.

You complain that TRUMP is not politically correct, and you fail to realize that, in order for you to complain, you consume 100 calories per hour, and at the rate the economy is going, you will run out of calories and collapse. Nobody in here is disputing the fact that TRUMP's view on women is not in line with modern feminism views, even feminists from 30 years ago are no longer in line with this recent non sense where you have to write "he or she", so that the "she" does not remain forgotten. All I'm saying is, you cannot afford the luxury to worry about these things anymore. Do I find it sad? Yes. Do I think writing he or she in a report is absolutely necessary? Absolutely not.

We are not disputing that TRUMP has had sexual relations with porn-stars like Jessica drake, many of which might have included felations and gang bangs. We don't even dispute that he treated some women for what they were worth...we aren't even disputing that! What we are disputing is Hilary supporters' lack of judgement when it comes to setting priorities for USA.
 
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ksa, one comment by Trump comes to mind. At the end of July, he had pulled ahead in the race. Major polls showed him likely to win. As if on cue after seeing that he was ahead, he insulted the family of a fallen US soldier who died in Iraq. It wasn't that it wasn't PC. His supporters don't care about being PC. His remarks were just plain mean. That single fight he picked with that soldier's family alienated a huge block of military families. They changed sides. If he were to appolgize, it might make a difference now.

You're right about the economic situation in the US. It is tragic. Millions of blue collar and other working/middle class jobs disappeared in the last several decades leaving tens of millions unemployed and underemployed. And it's as you say, they struggle to feed themselves. To ad insult to injury, this is underreported by MSM. NAFTA, TPP, and other trade agreements contrived by the Clintons contributed heavily to the problem.
 
socko said:
All he has to do is sat he's sorry for a few of the worst things he's said.
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why would anyone believe him at this point?

he's told so many lies to date and insulted so many people and classes that people are pretty clear on the kind of guy he is. he's not got a lot of time for contrition and humility it seems...

core trump supporters clearly don't give a shit what he says, regardless of how untrue, misinformed, ignorant or hateful it is. he'd be talking to independents/undecideds only and, with only 4 dasy to go, it may simply be too late to sway them.

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