TDS Terrible complications after opaite WD. Need help

[Anxious.Individual]

Hi, I have posted about this earlier in OD, but no one replied. Please help me out.

Ever since I withdrawn from Furanylfentanyl CT ( I had a huge 100mg/day habit, equivalent to about 16,000mg of morphine), I have been experiencing some serious twitching, stuttering as well as occasional hallucinations (shadow people, moving walls etc.), It has been more than 6 weeks and it hasn't got better, also my hands are very shaky and it's very hard to think or focus, some times I mix up words and everything I say never makes sense anymore. What are the full pharmacological properties of furanylfentanyl? And what could be causing this?

 

[Muzda Jonxx]

Hi, I have posted about this earlier in OD, but no one replied. Please help me out.

Ever since I withdrawn from Furanylfentanyl CT ( I had a huge 100mg/day habit, equivalent to about 16,000mg of morphine), I have been experiencing some serious twitching, stuttering as well as occasional hallucinations (shadow people, moving walls etc.), It has been more than 6 weeks and it hasn't got better, also my hands are very shaky and it's very hard to think or focus, some times I mix up words and everything I say never makes sense anymore. What are the full pharmacological properties of furanylfentanyl? And what could be causing this?

If that really is equipotent to 16g of morphine, it doesn't surprise me that the wd is so savage. I remember when I came off bupe and opium last year, I saw all sorts of crazy hallucinations about one week in. One night there were these three shadow characters in my room, and ghosts everywhere. I just thought 'ah well, they don't seem to mean any harm' and accepted it.

I had a savage case of insomnia though, I think I went 8 days with no sleep at all. Are you getting any sleep?

 

[belfort]

interesting as when i kicked oxy or methadone, i went 7-8 days with no sleep..the 3rd or 4th day in, i remember the feeling of detachment and creepy crawly anxiety...no paranoia or hallucinations but i remember just laying in bed with no chance of falling asleep..

these fentenyl analogues scare the fuck out of me...so many young kids developing huge habits...ugghh

 

[Anxious.Individual]

While I didn't sleep for a week during acute WD, I'm getting enough sleep now. However it's been almost 7 weeks, and the symptoms I mentioned above, have not gone away, and are still persistent. Yesterday I walked into a room without switching the light on and I saw faces and weird figures in the dark. It feels like I've been in constant state of psychosis ever since the WD. Not to mention the awful twitching of hands and feet and inability to think or speak properly.

 

[Muzda Jonxx]

While I didn't sleep for a week during acute WD, I'm getting enough sleep now. However it's been almost 7 weeks, and the symptoms I mentioned above, have not gone away, and are still persistent. Yesterday I walked into a room without switching the light on and I saw faces and weird figures in the dark. It feels like I've been in constant state of psychosis ever since the WD. Not to mention the awful twitching of hands and feet and inability to think or speak properly.

God.. That sounds really horrible. I only went through 10 days of the creepy shadow people, they disappeared for 2 reasons. 1) I got some sleep, and 2) I stopped smoking the crazy synth-cannibinoids I had (STS-135 and another I forget the name of). Are you taking other drugs at the moment?

 

[Anxious.Individual]

God.. That sounds really horrible. I only went through 10 days of the creepy shadow people, they disappeared for 2 reasons. 1) I got some sleep, and 2) I stopped smoking the crazy synth-cannibinoids I had (STS-135 and another I forget the name of). Are you taking other drugs at the moment?

I am currently taking 6mg clonazepam/day (not prescribed), however it does pretty much nothing and doesn't help with any of my symptoms, except maybe the twitching. I am considering going onto butyrfentanyl to see if it can reduce some of the symptoms

 

[Moreaux]

Try to relax. Having anxiety is only going to make this process even worse. Keep in mind many of these novel RC opiates are designed to hit specific receptors, and they are brutally efficient. What you took is significantly stronger than morphine, and morphine it's painful to quit. This is going to take longer and be more painful than stopping morphine, how much longer I'm not going to field a guess, but that's the unfortunate consequence of RCs. Most of these have very little clinical study so the effects and duration are widely unknown.

What I would recommend is to eat clean, take vitamins, get adequate sleep, and try to steer clear of drugs for a while so you can heal. If I were in your situation I would see a physician - you may be able to get some supportative medications to help you through this as it is somewhat related to fentynal.

In my limited experience, come downs from RCs are brutal and last a long time. I did MDPV once during an evening, ~200mg and I wasn't right for weeks. Similar to you, I was anxious, miserable, and scared.

I honestly don't know enough about what you took to give recommendations on how to alleviate symptoms, though I will say a bioavailable magnesium suppliment may help some of the physical issues - it did for me coming off of benzos and also coming off of the mdpv. I am sorry you are going through this - just know that it is temporary and it will get better. I'm sorry I don't have anything useful to tell you, just wanted to drop a note saying you have my support. Please keep us updated.

 

[Muzda Jonxx]

Totally agree with Moreaux, she's wise from what I've read on here. I didn't even factor the fact it's an RC in. Dark days, with rc benzos and opiates. I had a torrid time with the benzos, they warped me into a whole different druggy character, and now I've got a criminal record.

My two pence - get up and about, even if it kills to do so. I've been through opiate withdrawal a great number of times, and the ones where I laid around feeling sorry for myself were the ones that lasted the longest. If you force yourself out of the house, you will forget about the withdrawal. Don't forget - your body isn't as damaged as your brain thinks it is.

 

[Anxious.Individual]

Thanks for your support and advice guys. I do get up and get things done throughout the day and I am managing through the depression/PAWS. However no matter what I do I can't seem to shake the physical side effects that I mentioned. I can only guess they will go away as more time passes.

 

[Muzda Jonxx]

Thanks for your support and advice guys. I do get up and get things done throughout the day and I am managing through the depression/PAWS. However no matter what I do I can't seem to shake the physical side effects that I mentioned. I can only guess they will go away as more time passes.

Keep at it! Makes me feel better to know I'm not the only one going through this right now. Next week and I'll crack 21 days, which is pretty freakin sweet!