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What is the most addictive substance?

Lol, I got scared for a second there. It probably isn't me, I'm not much of a drinker. I used to be, but I avoid it now because I know it's gonna end in a coke-fest that would cause serious inflation of banana box prices at the Antwerp harbour. Wouldn't want that.
 
armoredslug said:
I take Effexor XL and have taken Seroquel in the past and the withdrawals are serious business. Did you get the dreaded "brain zaps"?
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Seroquel has always made my withdrawals worse. I'd feel weak, drowsy and despite of the fact I could get some sleep, it was a heavy and I'd wake up feeling real bad. I guess it all depends in finding your right doses, no way I could even try to work like that.
 
R4FKEN said:
Lol, I got scared for a second there. It probably isn't me, I'm not much of a drinker. I used to be, but I avoid it now because I know it's gonna end in a coke-fest that would cause serious inflation of banana box prices at the Antwerp harbour. Wouldn't want that.
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You from Antwerp? For reals? I live like 10 minutes away from Antwerp. Hah. Let's chill sometime; you bring uppers and Ill bring downers. =D
 
I found Seroquel to be incredibly sedating and hunger-inducing. I'd eat and sleep, mostly. I doubt that I could have held a job at that time in my life due to all of the side effects of the medications that the psychiatrist was giving me, to say nothing of my emotional state, which is why they were being prescribed in the first place. I take Effexor now and am terrified of the withdrawal. It's crazy!
 
Pill2Chill said:
You from Antwerp? For reals? I live like 10 minutes away from Antwerp. Hah. Let's chill sometime; you bring uppers and Ill bring downers. =D
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I live 30 minutes to the East of this glorious coke-supplying capital of Flanders, but would sure like to make the trip to make... the trip. I know for sure we could both improve our networks that way. I know Lucy, you know Mr. K. ...
Have to warn you though, I'm butt-ugly and extremely introvert, no fun is to be had inviting me. And I might bring a bodyguard.
 
armoredslug said:
I found Seroquel to be incredibly sedating and hunger-inducing. I'd eat and sleep, mostly. I doubt that I could have held a job at that time in my life due to all of the side effects of the medications that the psychiatrist was giving me, to say nothing of my emotional state, which is why they were being prescribed in the first place. I take Effexor now and am terrified of the withdrawal. It's crazy!
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I have no doubt that I'm in this for life. Both the Effexor and the Seroquel (and a few others) are helping me with a few disorders I've been suffering my whole life. Since therapy has not been a succes (to say the least), I'm gonna need the meds forever.

You expect to quit Effexor? Why?
 
And it's true about Seroquel being sedating. I take ALL my meds in one go, in the evening. While there are a few "stimulants" in there, not to mention my heavy speed use, the 2x200 mg Seroquel knocks me out within 30 minutes.

But I kinda like it that way. I'd rather sleep than be awake, most of time.
 
R4FKEN said:
I live 30 minutes to the East of this glorious coke-supplying capital of Flanders, but would sure like to make the trip to make... the trip. I know for sure we could both improve our networks that way. I know Lucy, you know Mr. K. ...
Have to warn you though, I'm butt-ugly and extremely introvert, no fun is to be had inviting me. And I might bring a bodyguard.
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I don't know mister K anymore unfortunately. If I did I'd be on K this very moment, lol.
I do know mister H and mister O.C. though.

Idgaf about appearances, you're a dude anyway. Lol. I'm introvert too unless I have my benzos and opiates in me, and even then I'm not the most spontaneos guy. But I reckon we could still kick it and have a good time. I can't invite you to my home though as I live with my dad and he doesn't allow me guests anymore because the drug parties I used to have here with friends got out of hand one time too many, lol. We can figure something out, I'm sure. Best meet up in july though when I'm a bit more flush with cash. How old are you btw?

Let's take this to PM. Or can't you yet as a greenlighter? Or maybe you can only reply or something, I don't really remember. I'll try PM'ing you, you try responding. :)

(I'm gonna PM you this exact same message, just so you have something to respond to).
 
Pill2Chill said:
I don't know mister K anymore unfortunately. If I did I'd be on K this very moment, lol.
I do know mister H and mister O.C. though.

Idgaf about appearances, you're a dude anyway. Lol. I'm introvert too unless I have my benzos and opiates in me, and even then I'm not the most spontaneos guy. But I reckon we could still kick it and have a good time. I can't invite you to my home though as I live with my dad and he doesn't allow me guests anymore because the drug parties I used to have here with friends got out of hand one time too many, lol. We can figure something out, I'm sure. Best meet up in july though when I'm a bit more flush with cash. How old are you btw?

Let's take this to PM. Or can't you yet as a greenlighter? Or maybe you can only reply or something, I don't really remember. I'll try PM'ing you, you try responding. :)

(I'm gonna PM you this exact same message, just so you have something to respond to).
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I can only send 1 PM every 180 minutes. I'll try again tomorrow morning.
 
I keep benzos pretty close to my heart, having easy access as well as prescriptions to the things. I've partook in a wide variety of substance abuse (with the exclusions of meth, H, and crack), and I've got to say benzos have dug there way deep and to the top of my favorite/ personally most addictive drug class: xanax and klonopin mainly. I recommend anyone finding themselves getting addicted easily to softer drugs to never touch the stuff. Same goes with opiates. I've watched friends binge on oxy and vicos until they're "longterm stash" vanishes within days.
 
Benzos make us calm, not necessarily high IMO. I miss them whenever I'm anxious or really looking forward to a good night of sleep. Had always taken them as prescribed but at some point I built up a tolerance and either I would use them without feeling better or would now be taking 12 or 15 tablets a day or more.

It really never really bothered me as opiates were my joy and I thought nothing could tear us apart. From the outside I had a very normal life but I wasn't really struggling as I really believed I could use them for ever. At some point though, things started to get weird, you change and go too far and I was not afraid of putting my life in risk every day. As long as I could feel the warmth. This now belongs to my past so I hope, but sometimes I think who would I have been if I'd realized that wasn't the way a little sooner, how different would I have been. What type of person I'd be with my family, friends. Having the time and opportunity to have a drug-free life. I see now it was all a grand illusion that almost took my life.
 
Heroin has been the most addictive for me, but everyones brain works differently and certain chemicals satisfy your receptors more than others. For me, heroin was a cure-all drug. It made life so much easier, easy talking to people, and just made me feel on top of the world. The warmth and satisfaction I got from heroin was so amazing, I couldnt go a day without it after the first time I ever tried it. After about two months of getting high 2-5 times a day on it (8-ball a day), that dreaded day came when I couldnt get any and i finally realized what I had done. Ive been dependent on benzos, amps, and other opiates in the past.. but H is what made me feel the best & lose all control of my morals at the same time.

From what I understand, you can die from benzo wds or alcohol wds..... i know you cant die from H wds, but i damn sure felt like it. Now i have 3 months sober, im on subs (prescribed), and i cant go without them.
 
Heroin is pretty awesome, I must admit :)

It's awesome til it becomes "not awesome". Then you think, damn, I'm a slave to this drug now...this is pretty dumb. Guess I'll stop doing so much hair-on...
 
Then life is never the way it used to be. Sometimes I feel like somehow we cheated life and and got a shortcut for something we'd need earn to feel. That great awesome feeling we had once will haunt us forever.
 
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Meth is way better than crack. Cheaper, stronger, lasts longer (although many, including myself, think that meth lasts TOO long), easily convertible to IV form, etc. Actually I'm full of shit because I've never smoked crack. Never even seen it in real life, only in documentaries about crackheads.

Methamphetamine is obviously highly addictive but I don't think it's as addictive as strong opiates. The high from IV meth is incredible, meth is the gold standard of stimulant drugs and IV is the gold standard of ROAs (IMHO), so the high is obviously godly if you love euphoric stimulants. The problem is basically that the drug is too strong. With drugs like heroin, the strength of the drug is often directly equivalent to the user's enjoyment of the drug...in other words, junkies want the kind of opiates they'd use to numb elephants at the zoo. The stronger the better. It's kind of like that with meth too, except that there comes a time during the meth high experience when the drug's effects (especially its effects as a "wakefulness promoting agent") become unwelcome...the residual stimulation with meth via just about any ROA is a big problem. Eventually you just want some sleep, for the love of god...SOMEBODY GIVE ME SOME FUCKING XANAX SO I CAN GO TO SLEEEEEEP!

A lot of users respond to this phenomenon by using even more meth, which makes about as much sense as continuing to swill whiskey so you'll never get a hang-over. Honestly the life of a tweaker is a lot more hectic in the short term than the life of a junkie. You can actually sustain a hard opiate habit pretty well and be relatively functional, at least for a while. It's more difficult with a drug like meth, IMO. The shit hits the fan faster. I think that keeps some people from getting in to deep with the drug
 
Psychologically nothing comes close to IV coke. Only thing that I've ever come close to OD'ing on. And there was that other time all I could get was crack, my pH meter broke and I misjudged the acid (smartass me just had to have coke*hcl so out came the hydrochloric acid), and as I registered the blood instantly turned brown (immediately cytotoxic pH), and did it anyway. I'm a bit reckless with opiates but nothing compared to what a binge on IV coke would make me do.
 
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