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Bernie Sanders

What does this mean for us? Would the worst case scenario in this matter result in her becoming ineligible for candidacy?

In such an event, what would happen if the DNC shoved Biden in at the last minute and declared him their candidate? It CAN happen, it is their party. The primaries are just a formality to determine who has the highest support among party members.

What y'all think?

I'd hope this (worst case scenario for Hillz) would leave Bernie as the only candidate and therefore the Democratic candidate for the main race...but I don't think the establishment likes him much :(
 
I posted in the other thread two days ago that I believe she will be indicted very soon, maybe within a week. Today's press release means they are finally about to take action against her. With Trump is already tied or leading slightly in some polls, the indictment will finish her. The younger, more informed, and less selfish citizens of the world will breath a sigh of relief when they realize there will be no more bumper sticker talk about it being "Her Turn," how she will "Make Herstory," will no longer be accused of sexism for not supporting her, etc.

Funny you bring up Biden. The corrupt DNC will probably nominate an insider like him before they consider Sanders. Sanders, of course, can beat Trump, but Biden will probably not. Also, (@Dropper) SAnders ideas have been carefully examined. The idea that he is playing tennis without a net is mostly wrong. Not all of his ideas are good ones, but overall, they are solid.
 
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socko said:
Also, (@Dropper) SAnders ideas have been carefully examined. The idea that he is playing tennis without a net is mostly wrong. Not all of his ideas are good ones, but overall, they are solid.
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They're at least more solid than anyone else's has been since...Nader, perhaps? Or if not him, then...McGovern...DEBS? Notwithstanding nameless, sub-5% vote candidates like Greens, SPUSA, etc.

Thanks for that, socko. I needed to hear that. I hope everything you wrote comes to fruition. Not for me, more for our children and the future of not only the country, but the world.

Edit: Trump being our president is almost the exact equivalent to President Comacho of Idiocracy!
 
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Sanders is a fool with a heart of gold. He lives in the public sector bubble and has very little real credibility other than he like Scandinavian countries and he wants to end corruption. Lol like a president can even do that. How much further must we go into debt? How many more freedoms must we relinquish? When is it enough employing the world as opposed to our own citizenry? I hope sanders gets it so America gets a clear choice bt capitalism and Marxism
 
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I'm on board with the free trade part. Goods dumping and trade deficits have destroyed our economy.
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And which Reagan started that?

Sure, we may have tripled the deficit and caused problems within the USSR by outspending them, but was the Soviet Union Really a threat the the US by the 1990s. Hostilities seemed to have simmered. It wasn't the same coold war it was in 1960.

The main concern is Friedman's Neo-Liberalism didn't stop with Reagan. It's still the foriegn policy of the united states today.

The corporate tax rate is too high as is.
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It's high because it has to be high. You didn't read my post at all, I'm calling you out on it.
 
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I wonder what excuse Trump will use to back out of debating Bernie before June 7?
 
I think the only person who will look bad in a Trump-Sanders debate is Hilary. People will wonder why Hilary declined to debate in such an important state while her polls are dropping. Is she hiding something? Is she too superior a being to participate in a debate? Is she inevitible and therefore does not need to stoop to expressing her views and answering to them in public? Trump, on the ohter hand, did not decline.
 
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He has to think of something, because there's no way he would be dumb enough to get on a stage with Bernie.
 
He'll end up a looking like a chewed mass of dingy old leather by the time Bernie is done with him. Bernie has held back against Hilary in their debates, but I think if there was a debate between him and Trump, he'd take the gloves off and really embarrass Trump.
 
:o So it's true? There's an actual debate set between just Bernie and Trump?!!? I'm seeing it all over twitter... :o

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I expect one of two possible outcomes depending on how Sanders feels about the Clinton and the corrupt dnc stealing the nomination. He will either try to hurt hilary by going soft on trump or he will do as you say. Either way Trump will change his style by using a new tactic. He's going to become predictably logical. First, he will be civil and more refined than what we are used to seeing. He will try to hurt the Clinton and make Sanders look good thereby improving his chances against her directly and try to win over Sanders supporters in the event that the Clinton is the annointed.
Phil.McKeer said:
He'll end up a looking like a chewed mass of dingy old leather by the time Bernie is done with him. Bernie has held back against Hilary in their debates, but I think if there was a debate between him and Trump, he'd take the gloves off and really embarrass Trump.
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:o So it's true? There's an actual debate set between just Bernie and Trump?!!? I'm seeing it all over twitter... :o

:excited:
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I think it'll happen this week. It started with Trump answering a question on Jimmy Kimmel whether or not he'd be willing to debate Sanders. He said yes, not expecting anything to create from it. But then Bernie jumped in and accepted the challenge.

Trump them tried to say it was just a joke, but pressure was mounting from people wanting to see it happen. So Trump said he'd do it if it would raise $10 million charity. As high of ratings as that debate would get, I have no doubt a network will pay that to host the debate. The Young Turks already offered $1 million yesterday. With as much as the networks pay for the rights to air some other things like sports(billions) $10m is chump change.

And since the California primary 11 days away, the debate will happen within the next week imo.
 
GenericMind said:
I think it'll happen this week. It started with Trump answering a question on Jimmy Kimmel whether or not he'd be willing to debate Sanders. He said yes, not expecting anything to create from it. But then Bernie jumped in and accepted the challenge.

Trump them tried to say it was just a joke, but pressure was mounting from people wanting to see it happen. So Trump said he'd do it if it would raise $10 million charity. As high of ratings as that debate would get, I have no doubt a network will pay that to host the debate. The Young Turks already offered $1 million yesterday. With as much as the networks pay for the rights to air some other things like sports(billions) $10m is chump change.

And since the California primary 11 days away, the debate will happen within the next week imo.
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What do you think will happen? Is Sanders disgusted enough with the Clinton that he will be nice to Trump and try to make him look good (relative to her)?

If he believes she will be nominated, and the race will be between Trump and HRC, that would be the logical move.
 
Pretty_Diamonds said:
:o So it's true? There's an actual debate set between just Bernie and Trump?!!? I'm seeing it all over twitter... :o

:excited:
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Bernie can only loose. This is because the fans of trump will believe that he will have won the debate regardless of the content of anything being said. People only expect trump to more or less spray insults. It is not hard to live up to that standard. trump will only have to say "fuck you" once, and people will say that trump lived up to expectations and owned the debate. If he would say ONE intelligent thing...people will say that trump was the big surprise and again...owned the debate. The only way trump can loose, is to not say anything or stutter. You're making the mistake of believing that debates are about content and arguments. If that ever was so, that era ended at the first televised debate between Kennedy and nixon. People following the debate on radio thought Nixon won. People who watched it on TV believed Kennedy won. And that was only the 60's.
 
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