Cigarettes to rise to $40 a packet after the gov confirmed tax hike as part of budget

Australians must be rich. don't you guys already pay like 400 bucks for a gram of coke?

When I was in high school cigarettes were 3 bucks a pack. not too long ago I could get them for like 4 bucks a pack in certain places.

you would have to be out of your mind to pay 2 dollars a cigarette.
 
jammin83 said:
Australians must be rich. don't you guys already pay like 400 bucks for a gram of coke?
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And it's mostly caffeine and lidocaine.

Our wages are comparatively high (median wage is about $AU50,000, with the minimum wage sitting around $17/hour) but our cost of living is just as high. We're in the middle of a crazy housing boom where one bedroom apartments in Sydney cost upward of $400/week to rent and are selling for nearly a million dollars. A cup of coffee costs $4 or more, a beer is $8 in a pub and an average restaurant meal is over $30. Electricity is incredibly expensive and rising exponentially every year and we pay stupid prices for telecommunications and internet because there's not much competition.

When I was in high school cigarettes were 3 bucks a pack. not too long ago I could get them for like 4 bucks a pack in certain places.

you would have to be out of your mind to pay 2 dollars a cigarette.
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When I was younger, cigarettes cost about $10 a packet, and I regularly went without food in order to buy them. I don't imagine smokers will behave any differently now that they cost $40 a packet.
 
SixBuckets said:
And it's mostly caffeine and lidocaine.

Our wages are comparatively high (median wage is about $AU50,000, with the minimum wage sitting around $17/hour) but our cost of living is just as high. We're in the middle of a crazy housing boom where one bedroom apartments in Sydney cost upward of $400/week to rent and are selling for nearly a million dollars. A cup of coffee costs $4 or more, a beer is $8 in a pub and an average restaurant meal is over $30. Electricity is incredibly expensive and rising exponentially every year and we pay stupid prices for telecommunications and internet because there's not much competition.



When I was younger, cigarettes cost about $10 a packet, and I regularly went without food in order to buy them. I don't imagine smokers will behave any differently now that they cost $40 a packet.
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Where are you buying your beers from? I pay $4.90 for mine at the local pub and this is in Sydney. I guess if you do buy craft beer then it is dearer.

Restaurant meals also vary. I'd say $15 + as so many people use vouchers these days or only go on certain days.
 
on another note everyone's forgotten to mention that those cigarette pack warnings obviously don't work. I remember when the government implemented this and jacked the prices up at the same time. Supposedly it was the warning on the packs which got people to smoke less, only by half a percent or so.

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You can make cool face masks out of them though

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According to the Australian Government site tobacco clearances have fallen a total of 11.0% since 2012 when tobacco plain packaging was introduced.

I'd be more interested in the sales of "premium" brands vs cheap and cheerful brands since the introduction of plain packages.
 
Havent smoking rates dropped quite a decent amount in the last however many years in Australia?
 
Actually it has dropped in the states since cigarette companies were no longer allowed to advertise on TV, and had to fund the quit campaigns. This is one drug I will be glad to be rid of. In every city every street corner has like half a million cigarette butts just laying there.
 
jammin83 said:
Australians must be rich. don't you guys already pay like 400 bucks for a gram of coke?

When I was in high school cigarettes were 3 bucks a pack. not too long ago I could get them for like 4 bucks a pack in certain places.

you would have to be out of your mind to pay 2 dollars a cigarette.
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noonoo said:
Where are you buying your beers from? I pay $4.90 for mine at the local pub and this is in Sydney. I guess if you do buy craft beer then it is dearer.
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I actually don't drink beer, so don't quote me on that one :) A schooner of tap cider is between $6 and $9 in most Sydney pubs, so I presumed beer was about the same.

Restaurant meals also vary. I'd say $15 + as so many people use vouchers these days or only go on certain days.
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Depends where you eat. I had dinner at a not-that-fancy Vietnamese restaurant the other night and the bill for two people came to $70, but we often eat at cheaper restaurants that come to $30 - $35 for two decent size mains.

I'm in the inner west, though, so meal prices might be being driven up by the current trendiness of my suburb.
 
It's already reached the point that a lot of the time I get the illicit cigarettes. I mean I already have a heroin habit so I figure an illicit cigarette addiction isn't much worse.

Also about the claim ecigs are just as bad. I call total horseshit on that, not just total horseshit... But idiotic dangerous horseshit.

You better hope you're right, and that by some complete fluke a product that is completely different to cigarettes and who's only similarity whatsoever is that it's inhaled and contains nicotine. a substance that itself is not known to be carcinogenic, or have almost any serious known long term health risks. And that ecigs just so happen to be mysteriously and inexplicably as bad for your health as smoking burned plant matter known to have hundred of carcinogenic chemicals in it that are pretty much indisputably the cause of tobaccos health risks and of which none are nicotine itself, and none of which are to my knowledge found im ecigs. Let alone all of them.

That's one hell of a coincidence. Especially when it's so much more believable that people are just so stupid and indoctrinated by propaganda that for years has conflated the issue by considering nicotine and tobacco synonymous. And which as so demonized smoking that even if a way were found to make it completely safe would still attempt to ban and proclaim is deadly. Another well intentioned attempt to make the world better poisoned by extremists and believers in the ends justifying the means and the use of lies and propaganda to brainwash people because the truth just wasn't scary enough. It never is.

And if you're wrong, you and everyone else making that mistake and promoting that view are party to the deaths of everyone who dies because they kept smoking tobacco and decided not to switch to ecigs, or weren't allow to because of laws inspired by such ill informed and reckless ignorance. Enjoy the blood on your hands, you and the tobacco industry make a great team.
 
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SixBuckets said:
I actually don't drink beer, so don't quote me on that one :) A schooner of tap cider is between $6 and $9 in most Sydney pubs, so I presumed beer was about the same.



Depends where you eat. I had dinner at a not-that-fancy Vietnamese restaurant the other night and the bill for two people came to $70, but we often eat at cheaper restaurants that come to $30 - $35 for two decent size mains.

I'm in the inner west, though, so meal prices might be being driven up by the current trendiness of my suburb.
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I guess you're semi right. Just depends what you're after or where you go. I know of one pub where I go to and the beers are $4.90 (VB and NEW etc - not 150 lashes) and the pub 100 meters away charges $5.80 for the same beers.

Food wise it depends if you know where the deals are.

I forgot to mention I'm on the Northern Beaches as well. So you'd expect it to be dearer but it's hit and miss.
 
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