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When do you think addiction is over?

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Tevil19

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Hi guys,

I have been using drugs for almost 5 years now. I have had terrible periods with it and some wonderful times. Sometimes I would use to get away from problems, obstacles and complications. And that's always a wrong reason to use drugs. Now I feel that I am using only recreationally. I take considerable time in between. I no longer lie about it, I only use when other things in my life can continue its normal course. And actually I'm glad that that I can do that. But sometimes, especially under influence, I can not fully enjoy it. There's always the thought in the back of my head that this kind of behaviour got me into trouble. I should be glad that I have it under control, but the fact that I am over-analysing this indicates some fear of relapsing. Maybe it's a good thing that I'm very aware of the risks I'm taking. It feels like if I have to stop enitrely that I do not overcome adddiction. It feels like I have overcome addiction when I learn to responsibly take choices and no longer compulsively seek drugs.

What do you think? I expect a lot of criticism here, so please do ;P

Take care.
 
Tevil19 said:
Hi guys,

I have been using drugs for almost 5 years now. I have had terrible periods with it and some wonderful times. Sometimes I would use to get away from problems, obstacles and complications. And that's always a wrong reason to use drugs. Now I feel that I am using only recreationally. I take considerable time in between. I no longer lie about it, I only use when other things in my life can continue its normal course. And actually I'm glad that that I can do that. But sometimes, especially under influence, I can not fully enjoy it. There's always the thought in the back of my head that this kind of behaviour got me into trouble. I should be glad that I have it under control, but the fact that I am over-analysing this indicates some fear of relapsing. Maybe it's a good thing that I'm very aware of the risks I'm taking. It feels like if I have to stop enitrely that I do not overcome adddiction. It feels like I have overcome addiction when I learn to responsibly take choices and no longer compulsively seek drugs.

What do you think? I expect a lot of criticism here, so please do ;P

Take care.
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No criticism here. :) As for addiction; It's not over until your underground.
 
Certain drugs can be used responsibly without addiction. If you can take time in between and it feels normal being sober, you aren't addicted. Moderation is key. Certain kinds of drugs lead to addiction even with occasional use, but most of them aren't like that.

I've used almost every drug out there. These days I'm sober during the week. I have weed and a little alcohol on the weekends. I take ecstasy or a psychedelic maybe once or twice a year. This kind of drug use feels healthy and sustainable after 20 years of experience. If you're responsible with your decisions, there's nothing to feel guilty about.
 
Being sober part time is good for a lot of people. I wouldn't recommend 100% sobriety for anyone.
 
m314 said:
I wouldn't recommend 100% sobriety for anyone.
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LMAO.

Addiction is never over. If you can learn how to control/moderate, then great. But there is a certain line you cross as an addict that is incredibly difficult to come back from, IMO IME. And from what I've heard other addicts say.
 
chrisincville said:
LMAO.

Addiction is never over. If you can learn how to control/moderate, then great. But there is a certain line you cross as an addict that is incredibly difficult to come back from, IMO IME. And from what I've heard other addicts say.
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You couldn't handle smoking a joint once a month? Honestly? If weed isn't your thing, I understand.

If you know you can't use something occasionally, maybe 100% sobriety is a better choice. It's a personal decision. I've been friends with addicts who decided on 100% sobriety. I've also known some addicts who've found alternative ways of getting high. When a junkie decides to quit and smoke pot every night instead, that is a healthy and sustainable alternative. I don't agree with the idea that 100% sobriety is the only way out for addicts.
 
Lol uvall know nithing ALL DRUGS ARE Made to rot your insides and get you hooked these 'occasional' drugs are actually called the gateway drugs because they open the door to other drugs how many of u addicts said u wasnt going to be an addict??

Half?? All of you?? Life is not a simpke as u make it out to be even tho it might seem it with the big amounts of drugs you all use.
 
Cheezy said:
Lol uvall know nithing ALL DRUGS ARE Made to rot your insides and get you hooked these 'occasional' drugs are actually called the gateway drugs because they open the door to other drugs how many of u addicts said u wasnt going to be an addict??

Half?? All of you?? Life is not a simpke as u make it out to be even tho it might seem it with the big amounts of drugs you all use.
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One of the least intelligent posts I've ever wasted my time reading.
 
When you are 100% comfortable with the idea "never again" in its truest meaning, not one more time in your living existence for absolutely no reason. Even if someone saws your arm off with a rusty saw while awake you would still do all in your power to refuse opiates at the hospital.

That is how I view it. Former IV heroin addict so the one thing that stands a chance of ruining my life is opiates, they are the only 1 true enemy to my existence and the i will not even take Loperamide as it is an opiate. Not that it will cause me to relapse but when i say "zero opiates for the entirety of my existence" i mean EXACTLY that. But I absolutely love my life as it is and I can function with one arm and a story of how some maniac sawed it off, i tried living on heroin it was impossible.
 
szuko000 said:
When you are 100% comfortable with the idea "never again" in its truest meaning, not one more time in your living existence for absolutely no reason. Even if someone saws your arm off with a rusty saw while awake you would still do all in your power to refuse opiates at the hospital.

That is how I view it. Former IV heroin addict so the one thing that stands a chance of ruining my life is opiates, they are the only 1 true enemy to my existence and the i will not even take Loperamide as it is an opiate. Not that it will cause me to relapse but when i say "zero opiates for the entirety of my existence" i mean EXACTLY that. But I absolutely love my life as it is and I can function with one arm and a story of how some maniac sawed it off, i tried living on heroin it was impossible.
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Inspiring last sentence bro.. Self-realization and self-control can conquer an addiction permeated to your life. But as puking said, sobriety can be miserable. Lol

To the OP, those are indicators that you're getting stuff together. Just know your limits and treat your body with respect..albeit easier typed than done.

CONQUER THE ADDICTION
 
happiness is a choice. If you are abstinent and obsess about using your life will be miserable. If you are sober and surround yourself with friends that use you will be miserable. I was an IV heroin/cocaine and benzo addict. I chose to find things that make me happy. All I know is that my life was horrible and I wanted to end it while I was using, and now I can breath easier that my life has meaning because I choose not to use.

That is just my thoughts. It may or may not be right for most people.
 
@m314
Thanks for replying. Why would you not recommend 100% sobriety for anyone? Do you see a any egative consequences with the 100% sober notion? Perhapd you have a good point there.
 
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pill.popper said:
addiction doesn't have an end. Even if you taper off all medication, don't need any groups, and never feel cravings, you will always have that addictive mindset that got you addicted in the first place.
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I do not believe this at all. I think it has way more to do with the mindset and reasons for use. I will never use the word "cured" in public but as I have addressed the factors causing my addiction to opiates and no longer do them or even consider them to have a place in my existence I will put my risk of relapse at 0-1% chance that it will ever occur in my life. I think to act like i am not more prone to shoot dope then someone who has never shot dope would be stupid but that doesnt mean i am still an addict, it just means i have a set of experiences different from the general population.

Call me what you will but I view myself as cured. This is largely becasue i was using out of boredom and relaxation not because i was depressed or unhappy. I consider myself to be the shit at all times so when i decided it was over it was, just like a multitude of things in my life. People always try to say otherwise but they just must have a different self view of themselves then i do of mine. As I said previous sure i am far more likely to shoot dope then someone who never has but again thats like saying a sky driver is more likely to sky dive then myself, its not an addiction thing its a life experience thing. I also despise the idea of "addictive tendency" sure some people have a problem with delaying pleasure but again thats a type of learned behavior i think (addiction is a strange form of nature v. nurture and i always fell a bit of a behavioral psychologist when it comes to things like this) but it should be noted that the "learned behavior" of delaying pleasure must be enacted before addiction, as anyone who has been addicted can tell you its not a behavioral process at that point.

This is all about how i view myself and i realize addiction is personal so just like no one can tell someone "addiction has an end" no one can tell me "addiction doesnt have an end" :)
 
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Szuko000, sounds like denial.

And it's nothing personal, just saying... sounds classic.

Have you identified a psychological cycle within yourself over the course of a decade or more yet?

Seems like whenever i feel like i'm no longer an addict, 5-10 years later I realize i was just winding up again that whole time..
 
Never say never, but unfortunately I agree that there might be no end to it. But it's depends, we are very different.

I've been told that you can't cure high blood pressure or diabetes. As well as other serious conditions that have all been compared to drug addiction or alcoholism recovery.

We have a condition and we're being treated. Relapses are part of the process although I wish I could say it will not happen to me. But I can't. So far there's no 'cure' although there is healing. ;)

I'd also feel uncomfortable or angry if someone else who does not know enough about addiction tries to define me for what I have done. Or judge me. I believe nobody has that right. Unless you are family and I mean the small circle, people know very little about our life, challenges, victories, etc - regardless of how long me or someone else has been sober.
 
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