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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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The Republican counter argument going around is that God is punishing the people of Kansas and Louisiana because Brownback and Jindal didn't cut taxes of the job creators hard enough.
 
alasdairm said:
The Republican Party Must Answer for What It Did to Kansas and Louisiana(my emphasis)

trickle down? we can't afford to see this disaster replicated on a national scale...

alasdair
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Florida is the becoming the same way, however people are becoming wise to Rick Scott's ways. The state just struck down $250 million in corporate giveaways to try to bring jobs to florida. Basically, this hasn't worked when he passed them before. The corporations take donate to his campaign, then he uses this fund to pay them, then they don't come and create jobs in florida...and if they do, they are jobs not worth working because it is a Right to work state. Right to work sounds like its awesome for employees but truly it wrecks morale. It states that an employer can fire you for no reason and you have no recourse to try to keep your job. It leads to people not caring about their job because they can get fired so easily, yet just walk down the street and get another equally crappy job that pays minimum wage. However, it is nothing as bad as the story you related above. Those models of running a state are truly terrifying.
 
from: Assessing the candidates' overall truthfulness:
With primaries completed this week in Florida and Ohio, as well as in Illinois, Missouri and North Carolina, we thought it was a good time to look at the remaining candidates trying to capture their party's nomination for president. In the accompanying chart, you'll see a snapshot of where their Truth-O-Meter scorecards stood as of this week using PolitiFact's system of rating the accuracy of statements made. (To learn about the methodology, go to http://tinyurl.com/hp6km47, and to access dynamic scorecards, which update automatically with new fact-checks, go to http://tinyurl.com/zzs9g5f). The candidates are ranked by polling average.
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i can respect somebody saying they support trump because they agree with his vision for america. but how can you say that when 91% of the claims he makes don't even meet the "mostly true" standard?

i guess trump supporters don't even care that he's lying most of the time?

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
i guess trump supporters don't even care that he's lying most of the time?
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Which is what i find most disturbing.
Well, one of the most disturbing things. He doesn't "tell it like it is" - he says what he thinks people want to hear, without being burdened by consistency or honesty.
Talk about a freak show - the Republicans do not disappoint.
 
He's just playing on a lot of people's fears basically. I think he actually knows exactly what he's doing, and his supporters are being played like a fuckin' fiddle.
 
The one good thing that might come out of this is that the Republican party re-think its priorities. Serve the people and not wall street.
 
Hopefully the dems too. I fear that Clinton changes her story mid-campain to steal bernie supporters. Once elected, she will feel she has a mandate and continue to serve wall street, baby boomer supporters, and not the 99% and not anybody younger than 50.
 
socko said:
Hopefully the dems too. I fear that Clinton changes her story mid-campain to steal bernie supporters. Once elected, she will feel she has a mandate and continue to serve wall street, baby boomer supporters, and not the 99% and not anybody younger than 50.
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I feel that Clinton will most definitely go back on what she promises. She does owe wall street as well as quite a few powerful lobbyists her allegiance above the average american. Look at how she has changed throughout her political career.
 
i see that trump has taken to calling ted cruz "lyin' ted" in his tweets.

that would be funny if it wasn't so desperately and fundamentally hypocritical and tragic.

alasdair
 
The election fraud that was perpetrated in Arizona yesterday is basically a domestic terrorist attack on our Democratic process and carried out right in front of our eyes. The Mayor of Phoenix is already calling for a Department of Justice investigation.
Hacker Collective Anonymous exposes Hillary Campaign's election fraud in Arizona.

http://www.anonews.co/hillary-clintons-election-fraud-exposed/
 
Yeah election fraud has been a tool of the trade for almost 20 years now, whether in the form of fraudulent recounts and crownings via SCOTUS (2000), unreliable Diebold voting machines (2004), illegal voter disenfranchisement (both), and on and on it goes.

This is egregious and needs to be stopped. What good is voting when your vote is hacked?

Edit: Reminds me of a favorite Emma Goldman quote: "If voting changed anything,they would make it illegal." But they know they can't be THAT blatant so they find the most weasely ways to go about doctoring the electoral numbers for the establishment's candidate.
 
Democracy is great for small, well-informed populations. But with larger populations and more complex issues that only a fraction of voters truly understand, it's essentialy guess work.
 
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