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[MEGA] Cannabis Addiction & Withdrawal

Does anyone else get the INTENSE mood swings in cannabinoid withdrawal?

I'm talking like euphoric mania to actual crying in less than ten seconds... :(

Or is it just me and my PTSD?

It's not just you, that's for sure. I've been smoking for 8-9 years now and although I've had my on/off bouts, if I go a day without smoking my mood is horrible. I can go from watching television happily to telling off a sibling just because the sound of their voice somehow managed to annoy me.

I feel like smoking balances out my mood, I don't get too sad and I'm not bouncing around with joy, either. It calms my mind and allows me to relax and focus on myself, if that makes any sense.

The way cannabis tolerance works is amazing, I must add. I hadn't smoked since Christmas Eve before today, took one hit of some dank medicinal and I was high for a good few hours.
 
I will re-visit this thread a few days time, maybe a week, and share with you how I'm feeling.

Peace all, & please wish me luck :)

how's this going? i think herb in general is pretty addictive if you're susceptible to it, some people can handle weekend warrioring but others can't buy a bag without feeling compelled to toke every day til it's gone and by then there's stronger desire to re-up and keep the cycle going.
 
how's this going? i think herb in general is pretty addictive if you're susceptible to it, some people can handle weekend warrioring but others can't buy a bag without feeling compelled to toke every day til it's gone and by then there's stronger desire to re-up and keep the cycle going.


Hi thujone

Thanks for your interest, I am in fact still going strong :)

As with the first 3 days, it has certainly not been easy, however the urge to smoke weed has certainly now died down, and although I don't necessarily feel better in some aspects of my life, I feel a great sense of joy that I can overcome something that seemed impossible, and I do feel as though I'm going in the right direction mental health wise.

Before this, I only ever had 1 day break from weed in 4 years - I booked a hotel for 2 nights 100+ miles away (Cardiff) just to try and get away from it, and found it extremely difficult what with the night sweats and general low mood. I also had 2 cans of beer which probably helped eventually drift off to sleep. Woke up feeling awful (probably dehydrated if anything), spent about 2 hours in Cardiff and decided I was gonna go home. And smoke.

Personally it's been a matter of willpower this time, rather than taking myself away from it, that has helped me overcome the urge to constantly smoke. I was around my friends smoking NYE, even offered a spliff a few times but turned it down. And several times since I have been with them whilst they are smoking - of course it's tempting, but I reassure myself that it's just going to make me feel crap, I'm sure it will; both the failure, and the negative effects I feel were down to abusing.

Appetite - after the 3 days has increased massively, I now eat good whole foods, have no urge to eat crap like I was before (not had a single sweet or chocolate), and I'm eating regularly too - with a goal to get healthy and put some weight on (I'm a bit underweight). I no longer feel like puking at the thought of eating in the morning, I'm now starting to get hungry as I wake up (always used to skip breakfast).

Mood - Tough one. I'm proud of myself so far - but I am experiencing mood swings often - could be down to underlying illnesses - or I might still be coming out of the withdrawel stage. However I feel my mood swings are starting to improve recently.

Sleep - ARRRRGH - this one's hard - I've turned to 5mg doses of valis some nights, wine other nights, and trying to sleep sober is still very difficult - I'm back at work now (I have to get out of bed 5:30am) - I'm hoping I will soon get into a routine of sleeping properly though. The first night before work I'm pretty certain I just lay the rolling around all night (sober). Funnily enough, the day of writing my first post - I suffered 3 sleep paralysis attacks with hallucinations, scary at the time, although now in retrospect it's interesting and I'm kind of hoping for it to happen again lol (easy portal into lucid dreaming, apparently) - but had none since.

Dreams - WOAH. So vivid, I remember most of them. Some good, some bad, some weird as hell. I'm finding I'm waking after each dream, but drifting back off quite easily.

Anxiety & panic attacks - Anxiety I feel has decreased (but still there), and I'm not experiencing regular panic attacks as I used to - I've had 2 minor head freakouts, but to be honest I would put this down to when I'm not rested enough (that's when they seem to occur). So I would note this as a definite positive from quitting.

Above are the most common withdrawal effects I believe people feel - And I have been 100% honest with the above.



THE POSITIVES!!! Okay, so I feel a hell of a lot sharper, memory has improved, math ability and such have come back! I don't feel awkward talking to people anymore, relatives, friends, shopkeepers - I feel able to now hold down a decent conversation that I would previously have avoided. The money I've saved!!! The feel to do productive things with my time (found a great book, exercising, cooking and trying to take care of my health). I feel more ambitious. I feel more confident (find me a lady and I'm sure I'll be able to talk to her!). There are more, but I think my reply is getting long enough.


TL:DR - I'm very happy with what I've achieved, and although it seemed impossible, my message to you is that it's not. Not at all. It gets easier - I stand-by my message that if you feel as I did, you simply HAVE to give it a try. Every person is different, what works for one might not work for others, but if that voice in your head is nagging you to quit, and you feel smoking is detrimental to your health - toss the joint, don't give in.

I'm not out of the water yet and I know it - I expect the exit of weed from my life & the accompanying symptoms to be very gradual, as the taking up of smoking was - But I'm happy that I'm trying, and I'm so far happy with the results.

If anyone has any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer :)
 
yeah the first few restless nights suck, then there's the honeymoon phase--the feelings of elation knowing that you're doing good for yourself and can feel your mind clearing up. but once you're past that and start to lower your guard that's when the real risk begins, it's worth finding a hobby that can suck up a lot of your time, it's really hard to quit for good if you still end up spending a lot of time bored. bored + sober can turn to thoughts of fiending at any time
 
yeah the first few restless nights suck, then there's the honeymoon phase--the feelings of elation knowing that you're doing good for yourself and can feel your mind clearing up. but once you're past that and start to lower your guard that's when the real risk begins, it's worth finding a hobby that can suck up a lot of your time, it's really hard to quit for good if you still end up spending a lot of time bored. bored + sober can turn to thoughts of fiending at any time

Yeah agreed. I would be lying if I hadn't had a few thoughts along the lines of "you're doing good, perhaps just have a few tokes and see how you feel" - but rational thinking me knows how that'll turn out, not from experience, because I've never gone this far, more from what I've read online of people relapsing.

So far like I say a mixture of exercise and reading has kept me mostly occupied, but I've never considered myself a fitness freak and I know boredem is going to strike hard at some point, so I'll continue the search for a hobby I feel truly passionate about - this is difficult seeing as my only hobby has ever been smoking lol.

Thank you for the heads up though, I'll do my best to keep my guard up. You sound as though you talk from experience? May I ask if you too are wanting to give up/ have given up?
 
I have gone through several withdrawals directly related to cannabis use. All of which included major irritability, lack of appetite, inability to sleep / stay asleep, diarrhea, headaches, and fluctuating body temperature. It is nowhere near the withdrawal symptoms of opioids or even synthetic cannabinoids, but it is still very unpleasant, and takes about 4 days to stop.
 
Thank you for the heads up though, I'll do my best to keep my guard up. You sound as though you talk from experience? May I ask if you too are wanting to give up/ have given up?

no, i did try to quit in the past but i realized that drug abuse was a symptom of the problem and not the problem itself. that's when i started to realize if i have something productive to do that i'm passionate about, then i don't need to force being sober because i'm not dissatisfied being sober. now herb is just a part of my normal routine. just like i love coffee but don't drink it after noon, i love herb but don't vape before dinner. it took years for me to develop this balance and i don't live a typical life but this is what works best for me. for some people, quitting is best, but i don't think it's absolutely necessary for everyone when herb is neither grossly addictive nor is it physically or mentally harmful, if consumed in small amounts and not all day long. everyone needs some little vice, as far as those go almost everything else is worse for you than herb!
 
cannabis use

Dude I have complex partial seizures and grass is the only thing that helps. Besides that, I just need weed to be myself....
 
Do people get the same addiction/withdrawal symptoms if they used only oral cannabis, never smoked?
 
By oral cannabis you would mean edibles right? No such thing as chewing cannabis as far as I know :D. Addiction/withdrawal symptoms are absolutely possible from my educated guess, it's just probably rarer since people don't consume edibles anywhere near the rate of smoking it.
 
Yes, edibles, of course. Rarer because fewer people do it? Or rarer because it's less common for people who eat edibles all the time, aka chronic pain patients.
 
In my opinion a lot of people love talking about how they have smoked daily for years and stop with no withdrawal, It's a lie.

In the next decade many will lead a life of remorse because they can't get through those first few days of THC withdrawal.
 
In my opinion a lot of people love talking about how they have smoked daily for years and stop with no withdrawal, It's a lie.

In the next decade many will lead a life of remorse because they can't get through those first few days of THC withdrawal.

I believe you mean, "in my experience." Your thinking someone else is wrong isn't an opinion. Either they are right or they are wrong. Who are you to judge whether someone is lying about their body's response to quitting smoking? Just because it's difficult for you doesn't mean that it's difficult for everyone.
 
I believe you mean, "in my experience." Your thinking someone else is wrong isn't an opinion. Either they are right or they are wrong. Who are you to judge whether someone is lying about their body's response to quitting smoking? Just because it's difficult for you doesn't mean that it's difficult for everyone.

That's a good point. A lot of teenagers get reinforcement via these forums, I know I did growing up. Maybe those who suffer mood swing withdrawal symptoms are the minority of daily high-grade users.

It stings like a bee, IME
 
^ I don't think Rhythm is referencing this forum. Hell, forums didn't exist when I grew up.

And he is right. Some people develop addictions and some don't. You can't blame other people for your bad feelings.
 
Forums can be triggering for me, but they are far more useful for information I cannot get from from people RL, maybe from a wiki, but with an element of social interaction. Plus I like when someone asks a question I can answer, good for my self-esteem and encourages empathy. Plus I can fuck off when it starts causing problems for me.
For me, who has been through a few periods of daily use lasting years at a time, and periods where I've been abstinent for years. It is addictive, even when the good parts go away and the bad parts intensify. It is however an easy addiction for me to break, nothing like nicotine I mean, after a week I'm fine, and I can still function that week even if not at my best. Fuck, after a week of no nicotine I'm a crazy and miserable asshole and the worst isn't even over yet.
 
^ I don't think Rhythm is referencing this forum. Hell, forums didn't exist when I grew up.

And he is right. Some people develop addictions and some don't. You can't blame other people for your bad feelings.

My bad feeling? lol. I and half the people who try to quit after years of daily use go through wicked withdrawal. It reminds me of people who drink 6 beers a day every day and can stop with no problem, It's possible, of course! Everyone's chemistry is different. I just find it funny that most forum posters who claim to stop and it's all good and dandy, are the one's who SMOKE all day. An assumption yes, but whatever
 
I just find it funny that most forum posters who claim to stop and it's all good and dandy, are the one's who SMOKE all day. An assumption yes, but whatever
Why would this be specific to a forum?

If anything it would be easier for someone to admit they have a problem on a forum than in person.
 
i have been smoking cannabis daily for the last 10 years. around an oz a week, so it really got to the point where i wanted to try stopping as it has taken over my life. so anyways i stopped 7 days ago and its been the hardest thing i have had to do so far in my life.

some symptoms im experiencing are:
terrible mood swings. im a 30 year old man and i keep losing my shit which is not like me at all. i smashed my keyboard earlier because i couldn't remember a password for my email.
im not sleeping much and when i do finally get to sleep my dreams are totally bonkers and boarding on very scary. like all my anxieties in one big dream scaring the shit out of me.
crazy sweating. like dripping of sweat most of the day.
a big urge to just smoke. im finding it really hard not to light up the bong.
have been eating way more than normal.
im finding that i cant stop scratching as well for some strange reason.

im hoping all this will go within a week though so will be plain sailing then.
 
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