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Charging Water

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I found this website about charging water

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/chargingwater01dec08.shtml

It's also discussed briefly in the book by Mark Stavish, The Path of Alchemy. Using the two techniques discussed therein does seem to change the consistency/texture and flavor of the water but it could also be placebo.

But the guy from that website goes a step further and charges his water with pretty much anything he can think of. Even if you don't fully believe it, you gotta admit the creative possibilities for what you could charge water with are pretty much endless.

And according to this video, there's apparently scientific evidence to suggest that some of this "charging water" stuff has somewhat of an authentication or genuineness:

https://youtu.be/IYRPy2G4TKs

What do you think? Is this something you would do? Is this something you already do (consciously or subconsciously)?
 
From The Path of Alchemy by Mark Stavish:


Charging Water

1. Prepare yourself for meditation with several minutes of slow, deep breathing.

2. Hold a glass of cold water in your hands, six inches to a foot in front of your solar plexus. Place your fingers and thumb over the rim if possible.

3. Breathe in slowly, hold your breath, and imagine a brilliant bluish with or silver light moving through your arms and into the water. Image a brilliant sphere of light forming about the glass. Hold this image for a minute or two, and the dismiss it and simply breathe, focusing your breath on the glass as you exhale.

4. (optional) Change the image or sensation you are focusing on to the specific element you want to charge the water with. You may combine color with your visualization; however, emotional focus and kinesthetic qualities are most important in this experiment. Hold the image for several minutes, and the dismiss it and simply breathe, focusing your breath on the glass as you exhale.

5. Continue breathing in this manner for three to five minutes, longer if you like, and then drink the water. It can also be poured on houseplants, given to pets, or drunk by another in your household who may be sick.
 
I think it is absolute nonsense. The claim that your thoughts could change the physical properties of water is a pretty extraordinary one, yet the author offers absolutely no evidence to back up this claim, aside from their subjective experience that the water tastes and "feels" different.

What's more, the author claims to be in control of "tachyon energy". Tachyon's are hypothetical particles which have not been shown to exist. Even if the author did somehow control particles which move faster than the speed of light with nothing more than the power of his mind, how is he quantifying this ability into different "levels"? He has essentially hijacked and misused a scientific term in order to make his pseudoscientific ramblings sound credible.

I am not sure if the author is a lunatic or a charlatan, either way, don't believe a word of that shit.

The video you posted is just bizarre. Even if you buy the claim that water can react to positive and negative words, do you really expect water to understand who Adolf Hitler was? I find this notion absurd. Masaru Emoto's experiments have been criticised by the scientific community for a lack of transparency and insufficient experimental controls, they fall well short of proof that human thought can change the physical characteristics of water.
 
You can't change water per se. Its either H2O or something else.

Though I did discover something interesting: the tachyonic antitelephone.

I dislike the certainty with which these idea's are presented. At one point the author claims he could simply drink water and do away with protein, as long as he charges the water with "vibrational intent" and "resonance". This is not possible and is potentially dangerous. That is the point when I think these idea's become something less then harmless.
 
There's a difference between living water and inorganic/pure water. I think living water responds to consciousness, like the water in our bodies, and the ocean. I've also tried different so-called charged waters, like ones that use a charging plate. In some cases I do notice a difference, especially if there was a current put near the water.

I know someone who has one of those kangen water filters. He spent $5,000 for the most basic one, and he can run any PH he wants out of his tap. I have to admit it's pretty good water, better than the osmotic stuff I used to have at home. I don't know how to explain the difference scientifically but there is one. I like using it to make herbal decoctions, though I could never afford my own unit. (He brings me jugs of it sometimes.)

The funny thing though is, one time he came over to my house and he remarked that the water I served him was amazing. All I did was put a jug of tap water in the sun to distill for a couple of days to get rid of the chlorine. For me, that's enough, and I think the sun does something to it. In herbalism we use sun-infused water to make herbal infusions and the medicinal properties differ slightly when it's done this way. Some ancient herbal recipes call for rain water, or water that has been twice boiled, or water that has been sitting in the sun at a specific time of year, or water that has been put into a vessel and placed under the dirt for a time. I don't think it's superstition. The soil has a natural current running through it (as Tesla discovered), rainwater has a touch of peroxide in it, etc.

I've also experimented with surrounding a jug of water with huge quartz crystals and that changed it within only a few minutes. I think there is an energetic property to this process that hasn't been clearly defined. It probably has to do with electrodynamics of some kind.

Like anything, I think charging water is a thing, but some practices are koolaid. I don't notice that much of a difference between holy water and regular water, for example. If you hold water then your bio-electric field is going to interact with it, and since our moods and varying states alter that field pretty instantly, then I can see the connection.
 
Foreigner said:
Like anything, I think charging water is a thing, but some practices are koolaid. I don't notice that much of a difference between holy water and regular water, for example. If you hold water then your bio-electric field is going to interact with it, and since our moods and varying states alter that field pretty instantly, then I can see the connection.
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The Path of Alchemy describes that you should hold the article of water a fair distance from your solar plexus (like a foot or so) "so that the energy in your solar plexus can be pulled out to charge the water as well." I'm assuming this is because of some bio-electric interference between the aura coming into contact with it and filtering/sifting the energy through your arms and through your fingertips. Not totally sure. I might just not be getting it because I'm "book-retarded".

I started this thread mainly because I have just recently started charging my water again. It's been approximately 4 years since I've been able to do it "rightly". And something rather peculiar occurred when I decided to charge my water with my recessive (left) hand: I applied my fingertips to the top of the canteen, following pretty much all the instructions, and tried to imagine silver rays of light filling it. But what was strange was I couldn't imagine silver rays at all. On top of that, gold rays came out instead - thusly the so called "ball of energy" within the canteen became red instead of the usual blue I'm used to.

Things got stranger the next day - because for some reason: I was not able to charge this "gold-charged" water with an element. So on the following day I tried yet again with a newly filled up canteen of water. I was met with - what felt like - a great deal of resistance until FINALLY I managed to convert the charge of the water into an element... But - and these are just my personal observations - the element that I had tried to imbue it with (spirit) was not in there. Instead it was what felt like the opposite of spirit... not like the opposite of fire is water or earth is air, but spirit inverted, so to speak. The water had no particularly notable taste, although it did almost seem heavy or thick.

The next day after that, I figured I might as well go down the "periodic table" of the rest of the magical elements. After imbuing my water - through this process - with gold charge, I attempted to convert it into the earth element. At this point I probably don't need to explain that what came out was not earth; what I did notice, though, is the taste of acid in my water. And I use a water filter-pitcher so I'm quite taken aback at this.

I've been doing this for a while and I've never noticed a change in taste that was that intense... of that magnitude.

My High Magic text says that the polarities of silver and gold are opposites. Gold is Yang. Silver is Yin. This could be the reason for some of my discoveries here.
 
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No offense, but that's not alchemy. You might want to read some alchemical texts from the pre-modern era about how this works. There's the alchemical science which involves working with the actual physical materials, purified into their mercury, sulfur and salt, and then recombined for various purposes; and then there's alchemical magic. What you're describing sounds like some kind of new age interpretation of alchemical magic. Gold-infused water doesn't mean you imagine gold coming out of your hands into water. It means that you literally take gold, put it in water, maybe with a plant that is solar in nature, with a gem or mineral that is solar; you place it in the Sun on the day of the Sun, in the hour of the Sun, preferably at a solar time of year, when the Sun is favorably aspected astrologically, etc.

Making metal elixirs is complicated. You need a lot of equipment, a solid knowledge of the materia medica, and a basic understanding of traditional astrology. And if you attempt the work during a misaligned time, you could make a substance that is useless, or harmful.

And yes it's true, inner alchemy is a thing... but its basis comes through understanding alchemy in nature, which means understanding the virtues of the natural world.
 
The best water is natural spring water, directly from the source. Hasn't been exposed to sunlight, filtered and essentially virgin water. Forget charging water.. total bullshit. Nature knows best.
 
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The best water is natural spring water, directly from the source. Hasn't been exposed to sunlight, filtered and essentially virgin water. Forget charging water.. total bullshit. Nature knows best.
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Hopefully we are able to maintain the purity of our deep water aquifiers, though this does not seem to be a priority. Fracking is impacting the Great Artesian Basin in Australia. We are fucked without that TBH.
 
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The best water is natural spring water, directly from the source. Hasn't been exposed to sunlight, filtered and essentially virgin water. Forget charging water.. total bullshit. Nature knows best.
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Does exposure to sunlight make it less ideal, somehow?
 
I read an herbal recipe the other day, written in the Tang dynasty (about 800 years ago, give or take). It calls for "worked water". You take a ladle and you plunge it into the water over and over again until a coating of bubbles forms on the surface that won't go away. At first the bubbles all pop but eventually they stay. This water has to be made over a fire. You then take the water and cook the herbs in that.

I really love this stuff. I know to the modern reader it seems like hogwash but this particular formula was refined over 150 years by several prominent physicians so it makes me wonder. I'm thinking "worked water" would have more oxygen in it? And maybe the bubbles stay once the water is saturated? Otherwise I have no idea.
 
Foreigner said:
No offense, but that's not alchemy.
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There's no reason why I would be offended. I never said that it was alchemy.

I'm simply remarking on how peculiar and fascinating it is that with my right hand I charge "silver" energy and with my left I charge "gold" energy.

I even put together or dedicated a page in my sketch book for the sake of taking down notes on the subject. Each time I would attempt to charge an element into the water, I'd focus - with my second sight - a couple inches above my canteen (where it seems the energy cuts off), and note whatever image I saw. I made a sketch for every element. For the last week, I had been charging only to step four (above), but today I attempted to change the energy into the first element that popped into my head: air. Now at this point, I had pretty much forgotten which images were which. When I saw the image, I quickly grabbed my sketch book and found that it was the same image I had sketched for air. And this is all with gold energy as the base.

Sorry, that was probably hard to follow. I'm a little jumbled right now.
Foreigner said:
I read an herbal recipe the other day, written in the Tang dynasty (about 800 years ago, give or take). It calls for "worked water". You take a ladle and you plunge it into the water over and over again until a coating of bubbles forms on the surface that won't go away. At first the bubbles all pop but eventually they stay. This water has to be made over a fire. You then take the water and cook the herbs in that.

I really love this stuff. I know to the modern reader it seems like hogwash but this particular formula was refined over 150 years by several prominent physicians so it makes me wonder. I'm thinking "worked water" would have more oxygen in it? And maybe the bubbles stay once the water is saturated? Otherwise I have no idea.
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What do you suppose the benefit of that is? Oxygenation, I feel, would help get rid of freeradicals or something like that, but I'm probably dead wrong here.
 
Foreigner said:
I read an herbal recipe the other day, written in the Tang dynasty (about 800 years ago, give or take). It calls for "worked water". You take a ladle and you plunge it into the water over and over again until a coating of bubbles forms on the surface that won't go away. At first the bubbles all pop but eventually they stay. This water has to be made over a fire. You then take the water and cook the herbs in that.

I really love this stuff. I know to the modern reader it seems like hogwash but this particular formula was refined over 150 years by several prominent physicians so it makes me wonder. I'm thinking "worked water" would have more oxygen in it? And maybe the bubbles stay once the water is saturated? Otherwise I have no idea.
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well unfortunately, if you heat water, oxygen (as well as most gases) will actually be less soluble than in cold water. If you need oxygen free water in the lab, you cook it for a while until almost all of it gassed out. besides that, I am still not sure what a higher oxygen content should do, besides maybe altering the taste of the water.
 
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well unfortunately, if you heat water, oxygen (as well as most gases) will actually be less soluble than in cold water. If you need oxygen free water in the lab, you cook it for a while until almost all of it gassed out. besides that, I am still not sure what a higher oxygen content should do, besides maybe altering the taste of the water.
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They claim that using "worked water" reduces the impact of the herbs on the kidney system. But only 1 or 2 herbs have this water rule, the rest don't matter. I don't fully understand the claim and it's hard to correlate to something more modern because the text is pretty old. The doctors who used this method developed it over 120 years or so and claimed that "worked water" is important.

I have no experience either way. Just thought it was interesting!
 
well, I wasn't directly claiming that "working" the water has no effect (allthough I cannot think of any possible way for this to have an effect on teas brewed with such water), just that this procedure won't raise oxygen content of the water, but rather lower it. (because you speculated that it might be related to get higher oxygen concentrations in the water).

maybe it is due to lower oxygen though. when there's no O2 in the water, chemicals from herbs cannot react with it. (save for the surface area of the liquid, which is exposed to air).
 
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