SKL
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By the way, on re-reading the Vice article cited above, it seems to strike me more and more as fiction or at least highly exaggerated, and not just because of the urban-legend transdermal LSD thing. The general types of clowns that he ran into sound believable enough though.
It was the dark, drug-related underbelly that turned me off to the hippie scene. The tie-dyed love-and-light pieties seemed all the more tiresome, which seemed tiresome to begin with, given that they existed atop of and sustained by some seriously shady scenes and bad people.
Agreed on the hypocrisy. "Crust punks," which in some places tends to have the connotation of in-group elitism and (from my point of view, which isn't yours) rather reprehensible politics, is in my local scene often conflated with "gutter punks," who may maintain a veer of idealistic commitment to "dropping out" but who are way more about hard drug use, poor hygiene, and overall embracing degeneracy as a "fuck the world" statement (which phrase a friend who travelled in these circles for a while has tattooed on his body.) Or do these scenes really overlap that much? Because I would find a commune of feminist, militantly vegan heroin addicts pretty amusing. I mean, the degenerates that I'm talking about would probably agree with the anarcho-leftist ethos of the elitists you're talking about, probably an inch more anarcho- than leftist, but they are more preoccupied with spare change-ing for dope and malt liqour than changing the world.
Yeah, I still enjoy the dead and some EDM. I can't stand most of the rest of hippie music though. Nor most hippies.
Personally, I've grown out of the festival scene. I was heavily into the psy/goa/doof scene around Victoria where I live, but I started to find the atmosphere of the community to be really tedious and often fake.
It was the dark, drug-related underbelly that turned me off to the hippie scene. The tie-dyed love-and-light pieties seemed all the more tiresome, which seemed tiresome to begin with, given that they existed atop of and sustained by some seriously shady scenes and bad people.
I met some cool people at these events, including my closest mate, but me and him are both out of the actual scene. I still attend some of these hippie events, but my eyes were opened some years back when I went to a seedy ass crust punk gig in London. This was real hardcore, far-left, anarcho/hippy punks and I couldn't fucking wait to leave. The righteous indigination in the room was palpable. I can't be fucked pretending to be outside of society, living in one of the worlds most affluent countries. These squatters, whose dedication I admired, were still squatting in one of capitalisms greatest cities.
Agreed on the hypocrisy. "Crust punks," which in some places tends to have the connotation of in-group elitism and (from my point of view, which isn't yours) rather reprehensible politics, is in my local scene often conflated with "gutter punks," who may maintain a veer of idealistic commitment to "dropping out" but who are way more about hard drug use, poor hygiene, and overall embracing degeneracy as a "fuck the world" statement (which phrase a friend who travelled in these circles for a while has tattooed on his body.) Or do these scenes really overlap that much? Because I would find a commune of feminist, militantly vegan heroin addicts pretty amusing. I mean, the degenerates that I'm talking about would probably agree with the anarcho-leftist ethos of the elitists you're talking about, probably an inch more anarcho- than leftist, but they are more preoccupied with spare change-ing for dope and malt liqour than changing the world.
But one shouldn'tt be too cynical. I still enjoy the music, and there is something hugely powerful about sunrise, gum trees and loud faceburning doof.![]()
Yeah, I still enjoy the dead and some EDM. I can't stand most of the rest of hippie music though. Nor most hippies.
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