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Dabs/unknown dose-Beginner-My first year of substances

anti150 said:
^you see all these rambling addicts OP? Listen to them so you dont end up one.
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hey OP ignore all the people on this forum, just listen to your 16 year old bro who tells you "dude this will get you fucking wastedddd bro" he 100% legitimately knows what he's talking about
 
anti150 said:
^you see all these rambling addicts OP? Listen to them so you dont end up one.
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Pretty disrespectful considering the amount of time and experience you have trying to help...

Having a severe addiction to anything can kill you. Alcohol can destroy your life just like heroin or coke can.
You should not be doing any drug that you can't stand to part with whenever you have to (like applying for jobs or having a child) but before you find out, you could have one anyway.

Please be safe. Be careful.
 
man, by the way you type, you are probably pretty smart. i tell you discovering and learning about drugs is hella fun, i know i had a great time doing it. that doesn't mean that there weren't bad trips and shitty situations.

when i was 13-14 all the addiction talk would not get inside my head as much as i wanted to though... i'd just say that as long as you are doing it with a creative purpose, looking for a new experience, it's all good. but if you are doing it just to make it more bearable, shit, you're gonna have a bad time.

also, i would not let drugs become my main hobby (in my experience, this sucks, and after a while it stops being creative). you seem like you enjoy writing. it's a nice and creative hobby you could also spend some time on

well, stay safe bro
 
I think he is scared and that's why he is here!!! so maybe all you experienced people on here should help him out. cry for help.
 
neurotic said:
man, by the way you type, you are probably pretty smart. i tell you discovering and learning about drugs is hella fun, i know i had a great time doing it. that doesn't mean that there weren't bad trips and shitty situations.

when i was 13-14 all the addiction talk would not get inside my head as much as i wanted to though... i'd just say that as long as you are doing it with a creative purpose, looking for a new experience, it's all good. but if you are doing it just to make it more bearable, shit, you're gonna have a bad time.

also, i would not let drugs become my main hobby (in my experience, this sucks, and after a while it stops being creative). you seem like you enjoy writing. it's a nice and creative hobby you could also spend some time on

well, stay safe bro
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What a great response! Yes. Yes. Yes.

Drugs are fun. They really are. I have never wished I didn't do them, except in rare, individual cases. But...if you are doing them to hide from reality or to get away from a horrible scenario, they can end up becoming your whole world and you can forget that there really is a whole world and people in it that care deeply about you.

Please stay safe. <3
 
OP you seem like a level headed young chap. stay safe, the fact youve posted on here speaks volumes. I cant be fucked to read all teh other responses but have read a few. listen to your gut, dont rush things, ignore the dickheads on here and keep smiling. Please , dont rush! :-)
 
With those doses you're not getting mdma... I'm going to assume you don't own a test kit as you're 14 but would recommend purchasing one and researching around here and erowid.com. I hate to say you're too young for all these drugs but you are. Just saying that's still like middle school am i right??
 
OP, if you can remember your dose let me know so I can edit it in for you. :)
 
Ok sorry I haven't been on in a while, but I see that a lot of people have replied since I last checked. I'll try to reply to everyone but it will take a while and if I don't have time to reply to everyone then I will make sure I will get whoever I left out next time I'm on.
 
OpenMindClosed said:
That was quite an account. You are very well-written, and for you age, it speaks volumes. I appreciate that. Thank you!

I agree that you are relatively young to start using drugs or alcohol regularly (or at all, honestly). Your brain is still maturing. The earlier you start drugs, the more damage they tend to do, at least, IMO.

I will add that I think you seem to be someone who is doing pretty well with moderation since you took breaks in-between many of them and didn't continue to use. Drugs can become an expensive habit for both your wallet and life if you don't pay attention to what is going on. :)

So, in regards to feedback that is specifically about using them...I really would consider the safest drug on your list to be mushrooms. Some might say weed but it still does damage your lungs with repeated use. Mushrooms would be difficult to "overdose" and they aren't addictive in the traditional sense. They can become that way psychologically, though, if you like them a lot. They don't tend to have a really awful recovery besides maybe some tiredness the next day. They are really great at keeping you awake. I like them a lot. They also aren't going to get you in nearly as much trouble, legally, as other drugs such as cocaine or meth. They typically carry the same type of legal ramifications that weed would. I would check your local area for that.

Ecstasy can be a crap shoot. You could get crap or you could get really strong stuff. Be careful with this one. This one, when used excessively, can cause pretty bad depression. If you overuse that one, it can take quite a long time to recover. I have a close friend who took this 3x a week every week when she was a teenager, from about 15 to 17. She now has permanent depression from damaged receptors. We have talked about it many times.

Heroin and other opiates like Vicodin are extremely addictive because they can cause physical addiction. Its not true that you can become addicted after one use. Some people really like it a lot and don't want to stop right away. Physical addiction takes repeated uses for 3 to 5 days. Recovery is extremely hard. It makes you very sick. If you are curious about it, you can find several threads about how awful it is. This doesn't mean that every person that has used heroin becomes addicted. I have tried it twice. I found it to be boring. I smoked it. There is some interesting evidence about IV heroin being less damaging to your body than the use of pills, when it is good quality. Pills contain Tylenol which destroy your liver over time. Keep in mind, always, that pharmaceutical drugs are never, ever safer just because they are legal. They may be more regulated but abuse of them will reek havoc on your body.

I would be the most concerned with alcohol abuse based on your story. You are quite young and getting DUI's can make your life horrible. Hangovers make going to work and school horrible. And alcohol lowers inhibitions more than any other substance I have had the experience of doing. Ever single drug I have ever used and ever single experience I have done that was unwise, was done under the influence of alcohol. I am not an alcoholic but there is a fine line between getting drunk a lot and having a problem.


Cocaine is very expensive to do on a regular basis and a tolerance builds quickly. At your age, I would avoid it. It is hard on the heart and depending on how you do it, it really damages your soft tissues with repeated use. If you remember Whitney Houston's death, her heart issue was caused from prolonged use.
I would recommend the same for meth. It is stronger than cocaine. It is also more dangerous due to the chemicals that it is made with. When it is made properly, it is an extremely clean drug to use but that is not common, unfortunately.

I have used all these drugs many times. I like meth and cocaine quite a lot because I prefer stimulants. If you are going to use either of these, please educate yourself very, very well so that you don't fall into the same traps that so many others have. There is no reason to ever get "meth mouth" or cokehead nosebleeds. There is a ton of fantastic information here on Bluelight that can help you a lot!

One final note: You really are young. I am only speaking about your physical age. I absolutely respect the maturity you have to come on here and ask for information and try to use drugs safely. You are so much more likely to be able to use without making serious errors like many do. Hope my feedback is useful and feel free to message anytime.
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Wow thanks for the compliments! Whenever I am writing about a serious topic I like to be as clear and beat as I can.
First things first, I have no intentions on trying crack, meth, or heroine. Those are the three main drugs that I am going to force myself to never try. Of course you have shit like krokodil or bath salts that I wouldn't even think of touching. Though I figure most people who do that are coming off some other addiction that they may not be able to afford any more so they get cheaper shit.
I also noticed that you said that mushrooms were the safest drug on the list, which I have known but are you sure they are safer for someone who is younger and who's brain is still developing? I have seen a few other people who posted on this thread say that I should steer clear of hallucinogens till I'm older.
That's all I really have to say about that, sorry if it's messy i just don't have time to proofread right now. Thanks again for your help and if you have anything else to add I'd be happy to hear it.
 
crOOk said:
I haven't read the entire thing. Still some advice since you are young:

Stay off opiates
Stay off stimulants
Stay off needles
Browse the Dark Side forums here on bluelight

I've had a few dear friends in these past 20 years die. You are getting yourself into some really serious business. Enjoy the good times while they last cause chances are you are heading straight for hell. I'm not exaggerating. You could be fine, but the chance you won't be is significant.

Don't forget about love and sex either. These next years could turn you into something so much better.
Don't score street drugs. There are so many ways to score good drugs most of which are more or less free of charge. E.g. get into trading them online, but this is already too close to source discussion.

Few people can keep high moral standards throughout their drug use. Make sure you improve yours.
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Ok so when you say stay off opiates, stimulants, and needles, it seems like all you're leaving in is just depressants and hallucinogens. Which confused me a little because I've always been told that depressants were the most dangerous out of the three groups(stimulant,depressant,hallucinogenic). Or maybe when you said aopiates you meant all the other depressants too, I don't know.
As far as needles go, like most kids I was afraid of them ever since I was younger, and putting one in my vein just sends chills down my spine. So you can pretty much count that out. I notice that you seem to think that there's not much hope for me left, which to be quite honest I found a little offensive. Though I do understand why you may think that, I find it a little exaggerated. I like to think I have more going for myself than that. I do various different sports and am an A,B student. Who knows though maybe you're right, I have had a couple friends tell me that it looked like I was going down that road, but at this point I feel pretty confident that I'm not. I'm also going to a new school where I don't have any friends that do drugs, and trust me, I haven't forgotten about love or sex either. Good or bad depending on how you look at it, I haven't lost my V-card yet but the time will come. And as far as love goes I feel like I still have a few more years until I am able to experience what actual love is. Lastly I would like to point out that little statement about moral. You seemed to think that I need to raise my moral, indicating that you thought that it may have been low. Which I can assure you it is not. I like to be as happy and positive as I can and I feel like I have a rather high moral. That's all I have to say but I appreciate that you care, and if you have anymore things to add it would be much appreciated. :)
 
anti150 said:
Let me just add, if you're interested in hallucinogens (This includes DXM too) WAIT UNTIL YOUR OLDER. Im fairly young myself and would love to try shrooms but until you're like 25 your brain is still developing. I listened to the OG's here on BL who used hallucinogens at a young age and got totatly wacked. You're just not mentally ready yet, neither am I.

$afe Tripping!
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Yeah, to be quite honest I think I've gotta put in some more research about them. I have some people telling me that they're fine and I have others telling me to wait. From what I know, I know that it can negatively affect you a lot if you do it at a young age. I'm just wondering how bad it could be for you if you only did it a couple times and not regularly.
 
crOOk said:
That leaves pot which is poison to the developing personality imho. :D
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Yeah pretty much, I heard a conversation between two people and they were debating weed and one of them said that it just makes it so he's not bored. The other person responded by saying that that's the problem, you aren't supposed to never be bored, because when you're bored you figure out stuff to do, and soon enough your only escape from boredom is to get high.
 
varimix said:
At least try to wait until your 18 to mess with E or drugs similiar. As well as Psychedelics and Disso's too. I started doing E my graduating year of highschool and thats when I found this site.. I believe that was 15 years ago.. I had a different username back the. THe forum was mainly Ecstasy Harm Reduction at that time.

You should always stay away from Opiates and Coke.. Especially Opiates because even people that arn't really addicts can get hooked on them. I didn't realize eating percocets here and there would lead to herion and suboxone addiction but it did. Took me to rough places...I used to be able to turn down drugs to but things change. I never thought I'd become an addict. I knew I was an alcoholic and had to be careful with drinking but it seemed like I could use drugs sparingly without much issue. Anything was better than drinking and driving getting arressted for stupid drunk stuff. Sooner or later the drugs became more of an addiction. Its starts as just fun and then turns into playing your own doctor. Self prescribing yourself everything under the sun....In the end your taking high doses of disso's in hopes of having some transformation that will allow you to no longer need to take drugs and just enjoy life.

Little man you already have the mind of an addict so take at easy and hope that you can stay in control. If you become an addict willpower is usually useless because your mind is always lying to itself saying I can use these drugs and not get burnt even though experience has shown they've burnt you in the past.

I don't think its a good idea to get into buying drugs online. At least you can throw a dealers number away but ordering drugs online with a few clicks can be hard to turn down. You may order something then realize, shit I don't even want to do that anymore but its too late and your trying to figure a way to stay sober when coming home to a mailbox filled with benzos, speed, ghb and God knows what else. GHB sent me to the ER twice and I was measuring my doses but lost track of the time of last doses. I probably would have been fine but when someone see's you out like that they have to call the ambulance.

Anyway I'm rambling a bit but try to be careful and remember that just because your not addicted or have control at one point in life doesn't mean that something could change and your finding yourself sucking dick for a ten dollar rock and a 13 dollar bag of herion.....lol I'm exxagerating its never gotten that bad for me but it may happen to you.T

Nothing good really comes from taking drugs unless we are talking about psychedelics and disso's that can sometimes give people spiritual insights......Taking E and using these drugs to young could make it difficult to make it through school and get a promising career and happy life.
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Yeah I never was thinking of doing Opiates such as morphine or heroine, mostly just opium in itself, which I can see was a retarded idea in hindsight, and I'm glad I didn't do it. As far as E goes for now, I had my experience with it, enjoyed it, find no need to do it again. Never considered buying drugs online, found it as kind of a dumb idea, and didn't know where or how I could anyway. When you said that I had a mind of an addict I'm not gonna lie, it startled me a little, mostly because I couldn't figure out how. So that's pretty much all I have to say, if you could tell me why you feel like I have the mind of an addict, or any other information, I would really appreciate it.
 
Rio Fantastic said:
This is absolutely awful, awful advice for someone not prone to alcoholism. It takes a certain temperament/genetic makeup to become an alcoholic, that's an established scientific fact. Alcoholics have a stronger pleasurable response to alcohol, and lower impulse control, and other personality factors that can lead to alcoholism, thus why it runs in families. That's why 90% of the population can use it responsibly. Opiates are a different story. How many responsible users of heroin do you know? I understand that your personal experiences have coloured your perception, but applying them to every single kid who wants to try drugs is so, so retarded & irresponsible that I think you should be ashamed of yourself. Because you personally became an alcoholic, you think it's responsible to go around telling every group of kids who try alcohol (aka most of the fucking kids in the western world) to leave it alone and do fucking opiates instead? What's wrong with you? Get it through your head that you're the different one here, and that the advice you're giving is absolutely awful. Also, why don't you take your own advice? Any decent doctor can prescribe medication that can make even the most severe DTs non-existent. Some librium & clonidine and the physical symptoms will be totally cleared up. You could easily pick up an opiate habit in its place, if you mean what you say.

Now, OP, I know what it's like to be a young kid and think you're invincible, but I thought I'd chime in anyway. You have not had any consequences at all of your drug use yet, but your young age and the fact you're already experimenting with "harder" drugs (which you don't seem to have a clear idea of categorizing yet, by the way, considering you think ketamine is harder than MDMA), but if you continue you could very well end up a hollow shell of a person. I've seen it happen to plenty of people. Your personality & your body are not untouchable, drugs can wreak absolute havoc with them that can take a long, long time to repair. If you continue down this road I guarantee that you'll experience you first bout of depression soon, your first failure in your personal responsibilites due to drugs, your first broken relationship due to drugs. Drugs are a dangerous game even for adults, and for someone your age, when you're basically still a child, they can irreperably damage your developing brain forever. If I were you I'd seriously, seriously consider dropping the drugs for a while until you're 17 or 18, at least. I mean you're fucking 14 years old, you surely don't need drugs to enjoy yourself yet, but keep going down this road and drugs will be the only thing that bring you any joy at all, and I speak from experience. Please, OP, value your future, your personality and your mind over the fleeting high of drugs, and leave the further experimentation until you're older. I guarantee when you hit 18 or 19 and look back at the friends you used with (if they continued) you'll be so glad you decided to leave it till you're older.
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I would like to point out that I haven't done anything other than weed and alcohol since I posted this thread, and get less tempted as the days go on. Though you are right, I don't know much about drugs and the only reason I really thought MDMA wasn't as hard as ketamine was from what I've searched up. Majority of what I found said that K was worse and I think that's the reason I got that impression. Also I wouldn't consider what I've done to be very "hard" drugs, when I think hard drugs, I think meth,heroine,crack,coke, and the only reason I said that they were harder drugs was because they were harder than what I'm used to. I can promise you that I don't think I'm invincible either, I know how easy it is for drugs to fuck up my life, so every time I tried something new I would tell myself that this was going to be the one and only time for a while and that was the case. I don't really have anything else to say except that I appreciate your feedback, so thanks.
 
varimix said:
Thank You Rio for clearing that up. Im an alcoholic and at one point thought opiates were safe and was in for a rude awakening... At least with an alcohol detox you can get some benzo's and wean down over a week. Opiates your fucked for sometimes up to a few months with lingering paws. Suboxone ruined me and I can't get over the PAWS and ended up going to Dope then to Lope. Its a nightmare.. Drinking is ugly too and withdrawal from it sucks but its short and over with fairly quick. Pick up some Valium and taper off over 7 days. Easy compared to the opiate withdrawal pain..

I advocate drinking on weekends when your a young kid. Not taking opiates. If your smart you won't even experiment because the chances of it going into full blown addiction is high.

Like I said I think if someone's young and wants to use smoke weed and drink occasionally if anything..... If you come across some LSD then well you;ll probably try and may realize you never want to do it again... MDMA can be addictive and I wouldn't fuck with it being young. But if one were to use it use no more than once a month if possible. It will keep you healthy and savor the experience.
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I wouldn't even say that I drink every weekend, it's mostly on occasions or at parties. As far as MDMA goes I've experimented with it already and have no reason to do it again until I'm older. I have already hade to turn it down on a few occasions since posting but I'm not finding it all to hard. Though LSD I enjoy and will probably do it again relatively soon.
 
Rio Fantastic said:
Yes, typical scared little boy in over his head and wanting adults to hold his hand and tell him its alright.
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Nah man, tbh the main reason I started this thread was because I don't have anyone else to talk to really. I obviously can't talk to my parents, and as far as my friends go, half of them don't know what they're talking about, and neither does the other half. It's summer so I can't talk to a school councillor, which I probably wouldn't have anyway. I can promise you this isn't a cry for help, I don't even know how the fuck you could assume that, and if for some reason I were to cry for help it wouldn't be on here.
 
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