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Tips for preventing addiction

fidel259

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Hello blulighters, I have decided to post this thread because i am wondering how you fellow responsible users(hopefully) manage your drug use, and effectively prevent yourself from getting addicted to a particular drug. Personally, i keep a digital calendar of all my drug use where i record the date/time, dosage, ROA, and type of drug used. I use this calendar in combination with fairly strict usage rules to prevent myself from getting addicted. My rules are as follows:

Weed: 3 times per week
Mushrooms/LSD/Mesc: once per 2 weeks
Cocaine: once per 30 days and 750mg per use
Opium: once per 3 weeks
Amphetamine: once per 2 weeks
Oxy/Hydro/Tramadol: once per 2 weeks
MDMA: once per 45 days
Alcohol: once per week

So what are some other methods you guys use to effectively prevent addiction?
 
just... just keep doing what you're doing.
people say some drugs lose their magic when done excessively but you'll have to figure out which ones those are.

personally i don't find things addictive aside from what can be expected physically and biologically.
just... just keep doing what you're doing. less cataloguing maybe. seems like you're setting yourself up for something... i dunno though.

this probably wasn't helpful.
 
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be honest with yourself number 1... for me, i need to distinguish taking drugs for a reason and taking drugs mindlessly... meaning okay I'm out with friends its a social thing or i need to study for tests, I'm legit having a panic attack, i can't focus because of pain level, etc.. and then there's taking drugs by yourself because u simply want to feel good... i am definitely guilty of that & that is where i have to be careful... currently I'm aware that i am close to getting addicted to amphetamines, i only have about 10pills left so i told myself when these are up, I'm not going out for more

I've never put a set limit on certain drugs like u did, thats a good idea

worse comes to worse, theres always AA/NA lol don't even know if its within the bullfight rules to suggest that haha.. but yea... just be honest with urself and don't make drugs very easily accessible to you (I'm very impulsive so suddenly ill be like: ooohh i think i want to do some _____ and if its there ill do it right away, but the feeling also passes quickly)
 
You're using a variety of drugs monthly. Tell me, do you ever go a month without?

I think you're trying hard not to become addicted. My rules are simple ... don't use more than a week, exceed the daily dose, etc.

Keep track of how you feel if you skip your drug schedule...do you have withdrawals or cravings?
 
You're using a variety of drugs monthly. Tell me, do you ever go a month without?

I think you're trying hard not to become addicted. My rules are simple ... don't use more than a week, exceed the daily dose, etc.

Keep track of how you feel if you skip your drug schedule...do you have withdrawals or cravings?


Well i do have another rule which is that if i skip 3 consecutive uses of any particular drug, i gain a free day where i can use that drug regardless of schedule. So i do quite often not end up filling my calendar to the maximum of my rules. I don't really get and mental or physical cravings, and i try to keep myself quite occupied in the times when i am not using.
 
So do you use according to the schedule, or are those just the amounts you limit yourself to in general, i.e., if you use once, you force yourself not to for at least that amount of time? It would seem silly to me to look at a schedule and say to myself, "oh, it's been 2 weeks, I can use amphetamine or opiates today" whether you wanted to or not.

I agree with maddiemax's sentiment about using for a reason vs. mindlessly doing so. It sounds like you have decent experience with all of them, so I'd be surprised if you didn't feel some sort of attachment to their effects, but everyone is different. Do you feel compelled to use any of these drugs for no particular reason, especially when you're not using? Do you keep drugs in your home or do you buy them when you feel like it? Do you use alone or socially? These are just a few questions you may want to ask yourself if you're worried about becoming addicted.

Personally, I've never stuck to a regimen like this, and from experience I have a very difficult time keeping certain substances around without using them and going down a path of self-destruction. This is obviously not sustainable, so in the past I've tried not to keep drugs like that in my home and only use in social circumstances if I feel it's OK. Frankly, this hasn't worked very well for me because my mentality is "all-or-nothing" where the "all" doesn't exist, so I figure I'm better off with "nothing"...hopefully that makes sense!
 
Tips don't work on people that do opiates because of mental pain. They need their meds usually every day, same goes for pain patients......tips are great for the opiate users that do opiates for fun & their lives are in great shape before starting down the opiate road.
 
Hello blulighters, I have decided to post this thread because i am wondering how you fellow responsible users(hopefully) manage your drug use, and effectively prevent yourself from getting addicted to a particular drug. Personally, i keep a digital calendar of all my drug use where i record the date/time, dosage, ROA, and type of drug used. I use this calendar in combination with fairly strict usage rules to prevent myself from getting addicted. My rules are as follows:

Problem with these kind of rules is that it is hard to realistically keep. How are you supposed to get access to these specific drugs at said time intervals? Unless you have some really solid connections or buy a year's supply of drugs at once, I'd find it really difficult to score specific things like LSD/mesc every two weeks or even oxies. Secondly, this seems to arbitrary to follow realistically. Unless you are always getting high alone, there's going to be the factor of the people you are with. Do they have something you don't have? Will you share or take theirs, thus screwing up your plan? How are you going to record use when spontaneous events happen and you don't have access to your data? Do you really have the willpower to follow this through? I mean, when I get tweaking, I make all kinds of bad decisions regarding spending my money on more stuff, along with memory loss from say alcohol. Regardless, I don't see this being feasible, but props if you manage it.

Weed: 3 times per week

I'd say this is an addiction at that point. Although, depends how much and if you can function without it. Still, three times a week is enough to create cravings and withdrawals if you do this for months.

Mushrooms/LSD/Mesc: once per 2 weeks
Cocaine: once per 30 days and 750mg per use
Opium: once per 3 weeks
Amphetamine: once per 2 weeks
Oxy/Hydro/Tramadol: once per 2 weeks
MDMA: once per 45 days
Alcohol: once per week

So what are some other methods you guys use to effectively prevent addiction?

Effectively, aside from weed, you have no risk of developing any kind of addiction if you seriously are only consuming once every week or bi-weekly basis.

But amphetamine every two weeks really surprised me, as I've had benders last nearly a week-long, unless you have ridiculous willpower or only have a small amount, I'd find it very difficult to maintain that one.

As for hallucinogenics, they will likely make you re-evaluate this position, and change the list again.

This might work in theory for you, but I believe you are going to find opiates/amphetamines/cocaine very difficult to use in such moderation, as these drugs more than the others will lead you to "one more chip" syndrome, meaning, you will say, "bah, maybe I'll do it twice every two weeks, then it is three times, before long, it is a daily problem", especially if you inadvertently meet tweakers/junkies or other addicts who influence you.

If you really want this to work, make sure you don't get involved with addicts.

But it really boils down to what kind of person you are. Some people are just genetically wired to be addicts, like myself, others really can't do it, like you might be, in which case, you have nothing to worry about.

I started out like you, especially with hallucinogenics, and somehow ended up a meth addict.

Dabbling with shit like cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, nicotine, caffeine, etc, is really easy to slip into an addiction. You have almost no chance of being addicted to shrooms, LSD, mesc, MDMA, or even weed, although they can seriously make you desire them, but the hallucinogenics stop working with continuous use, so they basically force breaks between them. Weed can become an addiction though, but compared to the others, it is pretty easy to stop using.

But I can pretty much guarantee that if you are destined to be an addict, you will be. How are other areas of your life? I was addicted to food, shopping, masturbation, and video games before drugs and sex. I really believe some people are just addicts by nature, although I find strangely that my drug addiction is less damaging than my shopping addiction was, it all is a matter of perspective.
 
Moderation is always key.

On a side note, with your schedule you won't get physically addicted to anything. But it's completely possible to get mentally addicted to getting high in general.
 
This isn't really a tip useful for others but my experience.. years ago from now I was abusing alcohol. Pretty badly for a while. Probably in order to cope with my messed up emotions and the anxiety I was experiencing. Anyways eventually I was more or less forced off it and was sober for 6 months. Then finally I decided one night I was going to reward myself by drinking and getting drunk off my ass. Just to feel so good and relaxed once more. I did and well.. I realized I didn't like it one bit. I mean I liked the relaxation but the rest.. barely being able to walk. Being unable to think clearly. Making stupid decisions. The anger and sadness I experienced. The awful hangover the next day.

I tried getting drunk several more times but it was always the same. I simply could not get the euphoria or the nice feeling anymore. All I did while being intoxicated was thinking about how stupid it was of me to drink and how bad I would feel later on. This has lingered on to this day and in my opinion it is what has kept me from abusing anything when life has been rough. I don't know what caused it. For a while I thought I messed something up like my receptors or something but no.. I didn't abuse that badly and also I still feel the effects, I just don't like them. I guess it is one of those life changing experiences people has. Realizing I prefer to feel my emotions and working with them instead of suppressing them as much as I could. And realizing I prefer to be sober and fully experience every moment instead of walking around in some haze not knowing what is going on around me.

With that said of course alcohol isn't exactly the best drug and I know there are more enjoyable ones available.
But I wouldn't want anything to do with them.
Right now I had some mullet wine and two cans of beers in the fridge for like half a year without touching them.
Occassionally I feel like having one or two drinks but always leave it at that. I can go long periods without any alcohol at all.
 
Cannabis: 0.3 grams a night.
Crystal Methamphetamine: 4-5 times a week.
Heroin: Occasionally now. I've slowed down.
Clonazepam: 2 times a week

Methamphetamine doesn't make a slave honestly... I'm Bipolar and just really messed up. But on Crystal I feel amazing. A sense of well being. Secure.
 
Cannabis: 0.3 grams a night.
Crystal Methamphetamine: 4-5 times a week.
Heroin: Occasionally now. I've slowed down.
Clonazepam: 2 times a week

Methamphetamine doesn't make a slave honestly... I'm Bipolar and just really messed up. But on Crystal I feel amazing. A sense of well being. Secure.

If it hasn't made you a slave now it will soon. Especially 4-5 times a week.
 
But on Crystal I feel amazing. A sense of well being. Secure.

Why do you think people become addicted to this drug? I've read a lot of your posts about meth and they're very worrying. It might be hard to accept or recognize from your own perspective, but it sounds like you're quickly becoming or already are psychologically hooked on it. Being bipolar and "just really messed up" isn't a reason for doing more harm to yourself, man.
 
It's been years like this.... Same doses same tolerance.. Never stole really or needed to to get the fix. 4-5 times a week because it's sanity. The tweak really is sanity...

4-5 times a week for years? You may not realize it but you are a slave already.
 
4-5 times a week for years? You may not realize it but you are a slave already.

I don't consider it that... My definition of slave is when: One bases their whole life in drugs. When that's all one seeks in the day. When one starts doing sexual things for their fix, when one begs their dealer, when one starts ripping people off, when one stops getting daily things done, when ones hygiene isn't very good. When all one thinks about is drugs. When one shuts down without their fix.... I've never done any of those.... The only time of desperation was with Heroin, but even then I simply had to deliver the dope and got something out of it...
 
I don't consider it that... My definition of slave is when: One bases their whole life in drugs. When that's all one seeks in the day. When one starts doing sexual things for their fix, when one begs their dealer, when one starts ripping people off, when one stops getting daily things done, when ones hygiene isn't very good. When all one thinks about is drugs. When one shuts down without their fix.... I've never done any of those.... The only time of desperation was with Heroin, but even then I simply had to deliver the dope and got something out of it...

Fair enough, I'm not one to judge especially when I don't see the bigger picture. All I gotta say is as we all know is moderated meth is great, meth addiction is an ugly bitch.
 
Fair enough, I'm not one to judge especially when I don't see the bigger picture. All I gotta say is as we all know is moderated meth is great, meth addiction is an ugly bitch.



I've read a lot of SpaceKids posts & coming from his background & the abuse & family he's come from, how else does someone that's been neglected as his brain is molding into something that not normal as most other kids?

We all come from different backgrounds, & we should try yo put ourselves, or at least our minds to what these people have gone through & are still going through.

I don't believe in using antidepressants to deal with all the past BS someone has gone thru......in fact I've seen people get worse from.using AD's & going to a psychiatrist.

Not saying psychiatrists don't work for people, they just don't work for everyone.

As for self medicating, sometimes that's the only option some people have between living & suicide.

And living with a self medicated habit on this earth sounds a ton better than 6 feet under.
 
I've read a lot of SpaceKids posts & coming from his background & the abuse & family he's come from, how else does someone that's been neglected as his brain is molding into something that not normal as most other kids?

We all come from different backgrounds, & we should try yo put ourselves, or at least our minds to what these people have gone through & are still going through.

I don't believe in using antidepressants to deal with all the past BS someone has gone thru......in fact I've seen people get worse from.using AD's & going to a psychiatrist.

Not saying psychiatrists don't work for people, they just don't work for everyone.

As for self medicating, sometimes that's the only option some people have between living & suicide.

And living with a self medicated habit on this earth sounds a ton better than 6 feet under.

True, and I can't really say I haven't done the same thing. I'm a diagnosed schizophrenic and at my darkest points nothing else helped.

I tried heroin, and loved it. And even though it's different, the thing keeping me alive was my desire to get high again.

Probably not the best coping ever, but it could very well be why I am alive today.
 
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