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Opioids The Opioid Withdrawal Megathread and FAQ

Here we go again. For 2 years I was clean, about 6 months ago I had a major relapse. During this last 6 months I had a 7 day straight clean period, but other than that I would say 2/3s of the 6 months have been oxycodone and hydrocodone and 1/3 of that time being heroin, smoked & IV.

Tomorrow I am going to attempt to go through WD and take a minimum of a 6 month hiatus from all opioids. I am honestly scared because I don't know if I can do it. All I have at my disposal is 15 mg of hydrocodone, 12 mg of kolonopin and a bunch of naproxen. I hope this acute WD's only last 5 or 6 days but who knows, I have made list of food & drink items and a kind of "to do" list like go for a walk, take the dog to the dog park, visit friends, watch some Netflix, etc etc.

I am hoping I will be able to do things like jog, go for a hike, work out, basically things that will break a good sweat. Will a somewhat rigorous exercise especially if I am bale to break into a good solid sweat speed up and finish the acute withdrawal faster because I'm sweating out toxins and whatnot? Does my recent opioid use sound like I am in for some really gnarly intense withdrawal?

Man I hope I can get through this, I've attempted to detox 4 or 5 times in the past 2 months. But my past attempts were basically taper plans that just ended up with me taking big doses and defeating the purpose of the taper. So now I am just going to try and cold turkey this shit. I figured I'd post this to blue light in hopes that it will somehow bring me some kind of extra inspiration and motivation to actually do it this time. Well, we will see...
 
So I posted last night about AFOAF and their extract process. But now AFOAF wants to know about what the conversion should be if AFOAF had been on a Methadone Maintenance Program for 3 years at a 1 time daily dose of 90-100mg, and is getting the Fent Patches now instead. AFOAF has said that it doesn't seem to be enough (The Fent 50mcg/hour). To the point where when AFOAF wakes up in the morning, his entire body feels somewhat numb/tingling feeling/pulsating feeling, almost like they feel their entire heartbeat throughout their entire body. This isn't something this person had ever experienced with patches until now, the Methadone never did this either, but once he got off the M.M.P. this feeling started happening, and has continued even to this day. It doesn't happen constantly, mainly when this person wakes up, sometimes it'll wake AFOAF up in the middle of the night. Or even when they are just sitting down. Any suggestions as to what this could be? AFOAF has heard of P.A.W.S. but doesn't see these symptoms being part of that. It's kinda driving AFOAF crazy and is afraid to tell their P.M. Dr. about it, in fear of the doc taking the scripts for the Fent Patches away. AFOAF ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT WANTS TO GO BACK ON A METHADONE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. Any suggestions would very much help.

Much Love Fellow BlueLighters
 
I'm trying to leave my PST habit behind. Tried cold turkey plenty of times but a couple of days is all I last without. Just dosed 4mg of Suboxone; 2mg each dose with 90 minutes in between. I waited 24hrs since my last dose, it worked better than I expected it to since of the long PST half life and such short duration since my last dose. I've dosed Sub prematurely before and thankfully I never get precipitated withdrawals. The only thing that happens when I dose too early is that my BP sky rockets, I sweat hard and my pupils get really dilated for about 30 minutes. The trade off is that I don't get the light euphoria if I dose too early. Today, I feel surprisingly good for dosing Sub so early.

Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences.
 
Letting everyone how I been doing so far after 7-8 weeks clean.
Its been hard, mostly the brain zaps, nerves, anxiety, ringing in my ears, sleeping pattern is finally returning back to normal. I have taken xanax here and there to cope with things and has just prolong everything. I took xanax for a week (about a week ago) and now went through insomnia again and some RLS, nerve endings tingling (many feet), even after all this time, lasted only a few days but still returned. I stated before and I'll state it again, you can't take nothing, you'll prolong all your symptoms and won't heal. I abused the shit for a long, long time, for me I may need 2-3 months to completely heal. I threw away any xanax I had left and not taking anything anymore.
Anyone having to taper down first I can understand taking meds but anyone wanting to get off the shit and be finally done needs to go through the entire cycle and don't take anything, if so you are your still using. I took xanax for short term relief only, on and off, it helped with the rough parts but I found symptoms did return.
A positive note; I am getting my sleep and getting my energy (mental and physical) back, thinking more clearer than I have in years. I find myself not wanting anything, I don't need it, my body doesn't need it, only wanting to get healthy, I guess after a certain amount of time that goes by you'll feel the same...just takes time and more time.
Good luck everyone, quit taking shit, stay clean!
 
I have been clean from opiates for 8 days after 4 yrs. took 30 mg hydrocodone today. Am i going to go back in acute withdrawals?
 
I would expect some level of withdrawal, yes. In my experience, how bad it will be is directly proportional to how high I got.
 
I have a question about Doctors and which one is right...I was in a horrible Esculade wreck 6 friends of mine died in it. 80% of my vertebrae were damaged to 1 degree or another.1 1/2 years of fentynal, hydrocodones and more phine e.r. after I was taken off the Demerol I.M. I saw my primary care doctor monday. He told me i have been on opiates too long and wanted to give me a vacation. Vacation? I love those, where do u recommend I go? He did not renew My Hydro 10's 6 times a day nor my morephine 60mg e.r. every 12 hours. I could barely make it to my Nuerologist appointment wednesday. I looked like heck and fell even worse. I have never felt that bad in my entire life except maybe in physical therapy..My Nuerologist could not believe my Primary care Dr. did that. He gave me something to put under my tongue and I felt myself again in literally a minute.He then wrote my usual script. Which Dr4. was right? and which 1 was wrong?..Should I have gone ahead and suffer through the vacation, or waht? I don't understand why either Dr. did this. they never really told me thier reason. Can anyone used to 2 doctors doing 2 totally differnt things, please shed some light on this?..Also. which one may've been right? Thank you sooo much Bluelighteniens.. I am sorry everyone of you in withdrawls. I had them for 2 days and I cannot even imagine what you are going through. Please please hang in there..My thoughts will be with you all.
 
Oddly enough my best detox was in Vegas. I had to go there for a work conference and brought enough to last until,the conference started. Then I started popping high doses of gabapentin and forced myself to walk to the conference and walk around. I was clammy and loopy feeling, but it made the whole experience bearable and the worst was over by the time I flew home. The hardest part was the mental barrier of knowing I was flying back and would be in reach of my connections again. Just the thought gave me hot flashes of anxiety.
 
Thankyou. I hope not. I really want to stop. Sick of always worrying about running out and being sick. I wish I wouldve known before I had surgery 4 long yrs ago which resulted in a year of open wounds, and an endless script, just what these things do to your life. Uggghhhh!!
 
I don't think I even took an aspirin my entire life, until 1 bad incident and 1 1/2 or maybe closer to 2 years later I have the same exact problem. I watch shows where people on Heroine wthdrawl.I always thought it was the weak ,poor or criminals that got hooked on drugs. Well it was a real eye openner.It can and does happen to everyone. Should I just go cold turkey like my primary care Dr. said too, or..Finish healling and let my Nuerologist and pain management Dr. taper me? I read enough on here not to take benzos nor suboxone. It's been stated those are worse then the Hydro and Morphine i'm currently taking. And do you know what that drug was he put under my tongue that made the pain and withdrawls go away in about a minute? I want to look it up. Godbless you guys. There's a sun behind them storm clouds, I guarantee it... Lots of compassion and Love to you all.
 
I'm new to this forum Elsa and am curious what type of opiate or opioid you will be withdrawing from? Is it more than one? I'm no longer using opiates and have been clean for 4 years now. How long have you used? How do you use? All of these are important questions. I'd like to help if I could. .
 
The one thing I rarely see mentioned is how withdrawal works in a long term addict. I'm coming up on 10 years of use now and have climbed the ladder up and back down again.

For me every time I go back I end up with horrible acute withdrawal the day after. Sometimes I can get away with one use, but one use usually turns into a run. If I have a two-three day run then quit I'll go through a 12-24 hour withdrawal phase that's really bad. Not as bad as when I had an Opana + benzo habit but worse than I would have expected with the level of substances I have been using. We're talking been clean for 2 years and can nod off 40-50mg of Hydrocodone type of sessions.

If I use for a week I might has well have never quit hard opioids. Even Hydro will leave me in a bad way and I have to ride out "the flu" at home for three-four days. Every time I go back and use the withdrawal just seems more pronounced, lasts longer, and sets in faster. If doesn't matter if I opt for morphine or oxycodone or whatever else. Two nights of use and I'm fucked.

Any other long term off again on again users notice this?
 
Nagah 2 years ago. give or take I woke up getting morphine and Demerol injections. about 6 months later I was on Hydro 10's 4 times a day and E>R Morephine 60 mg e.r. every 12 house. But something seemed to start happenning. the month started getting longer then the perscriptions I was on.b4 I knew it I was out out in a week and new suppliers found me..I am now on 120 - 160 mg hydro a day and any oxy I can find. they are usually 60's. I take 2 or 3 of those daily. so i have steadily bee increasing since I left the hospital about 2 years ago.
 
Head phone. i litrally would withdrawl every single month for atleast a week, Until my scripts came .It's not fun.. Plus I have legtimate pain issues. which 1 Dr. decided damaged nreves were all in my head and my Nuerologist and painmanagement Dr called him an idiot, lol.. It kinda seemed like I just got used to them. like pleasure will = pain soon. and I knew this..WIthdrawling monthly became my way of life I guess and accepted it. NEVER liked it. just accepted it. I tried to answer both of u best I can. I am noticing that the w/d seem to come on faster then b4. I think they are worse. I'm not exactly sure because our brains only remember the good feelings, not the pain.
 
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I think the worst thing about withdrawing off Vicodin is the Restless Leg Syndrome that makes you Twitch all night. And the Depression, depression is the worst.
 
Been using codeine for years, at fairly low doses until last year, and was also combining with huge amounts of kratom, which I kicked a few months ago. The first 3 days of the kratom withdrawal came with terrible depression and empty feelings, but were pretty much over within 3 days. Wind forward to last week, when I had been using about 800mg of codeine a day, in 2 smaller doses, followed by a treat of 400-450mg each night a few hours before bed.

On the Thursday I performed my last CWE, and also drank 2 bottles of wine, despite not usually drinking, as I had 4 solid days away from work and planned to lose the codeine. I had a few Paramol and Nurofen plus tablets lying around, so used these on the first day as a kind of mini taper, rather than throw them away. Unlike with the kratom, I had no crippling depression, and very few symptoms the first day, just a bit fatigued and a feeling something was missing. Got through Saturday, though that night the RLS started up and didn't get much sleep, but I was feeling strong, and on the Sunday I started to feel very chirpy and managed to do some reading and potter about, thinking that once I got through Monday I would really be out of the woods and able to stay off.

Sunday night the RLS etc gets worse, I can't sleep at all, and so I get up 72 hours after my last CWE and suddenly it's like I'm on day one - emptiness, anxiety, fatigue, very low mood. I was prepared for 3 days of not feeling that great, with one extra day to get ready for work, but here comes day 4 and it's the worst so far. I have a job where I have to be very sharp mentally and emotionally and can't just wing it, so I caved in and did a pharmacy run. I decided not to go down the CWE route again, just munched about 80mg worth of codeine pills, (at relatively safe doses of 800mg ibuprofen and 1g apap plus the codeine).

I hope this is just a setback and I can find another window to stay on a maintenance level without the late night CWEs and then finally jump off (as when I last jumped off a taper it was relatively painless, I just ended going back weeks later due to big stresses).

Am curious what caused the delayed onset of the more troublesome withdrawals, am in very good health generally, can run 10 miles, just wonder if it took my system a while to cotton on to my plan or something else, but it's very frustrating setting the time aside and then running out of time because the worst of the w/d starts on the last planned day. It's interesting to compare above about w/d coming on faster each time, as I have done quite a few w/ds and usually well over the worst by day 4, but in this case they came on much slower for some reason.

Guess I may never know but hope to keep to a low dose, possibly taper down more, then jump when I get a window, I just can't afford to end up screwing up important stuff by feeling 50% at work! :(

This morning I couldn't tie my shoelaces, tonight I've been cleaning and did the shopping etc - did another dose of approx 80mg, it's so tiny it's ridiculous, and in the past I've withdrawn from Oxy a number of times and can't figure out how codeine w/d can be quite this bad, but the 80mg has made me feel normal. Maybe this is a good sign, if I can level out for a bit, maybe taper down until I get the next chance to jump off and hopefully off a lower dose it will be easier....
 
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