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Ever try meditation or hypnosis on drugs, especially hallucinogens?

PsychedelicWizard

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Just did this last night after a methamphetamine bender, and I had the most amazing closed-eye visuals that blew even LSD out of the water.

Saw not just all the colors of the rainbow, but vivid animated pictures. It quickly turned sexual and had some of the most incredible things appear like fairies and nymphs and such.

I suppose if anyone wants to see the spiritual side of drugs, try this out. Works even better if you are sleep deprived, but just make sure you maintain a positive mindset, as this can easily turn into the worst experience imaginable if not prepared for.

I also did this with a few friends and we all opened our eyes and saw the exact same things like a dragon on the wall and a dancing gnome, as well as strange portals and we all smoked a pipe of weed only to realize that it didn't exist, we did not mention the color, but we all saw it as blue and teal.

Probably some next-level psychic/spiritual/paranormal shit. Just make sure you are ready to handle it, as a bad trip under deep meditative trance or hypnosis combined with sleep deprivation WILL be a living nightmare, but if you can focus positively, your fantasies become reality and you learn a lot about the universe and yourself that you cannot read in a book or experience normally.
 
One of the very few times I actually stayed in one place while on methamphetamine I opted to lay down and listen to music. Of course I couldn't sleep, but I sat perfectly still with my eyes closed and before I knew it three albums had played through- When I finally opened my eyes it felt like a rebirth in a way, like I had gone to a very distant place and returning was a shock to both space and myself.
I am not the type to sit and listen to music when sober unless I'm driving or doing some other activity, so for me this was such a profoundly wonderful experience. The days following that occurrence were filled with contentment. One of my old sponsors told me that that was what meditation was like for him.

Not sure if this is at all what you were looking to hear back, but I thought I'd give the two cents that came to mind when I read the thread title.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I have no idea what happened during that time. Kind of just a lingering feeling, like you have when you wake up, knowing you had a weird dream, but can't remember it.
 
One of the very few times I actually stayed in one place while on methamphetamine I opted to lay down and listen to music. Of course I couldn't sleep, but I sat perfectly still with my eyes closed and before I knew it three albums had played through- When I finally opened my eyes it felt like a rebirth in a way, like I had gone to a very distant place and returning was a shock to both space and myself.
I am not the type to sit and listen to music when sober unless I'm driving or doing some other activity, so for me this was such a profoundly wonderful experience. The days following that occurrence were filled with contentment. One of my old sponsors told me that that was what meditation was like for him.

Not sure if this is at all what you were looking to hear back, but I thought I'd give the two cents that came to mind when I read the thread title.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I have no idea what happened during that time. Kind of just a lingering feeling, like you have when you wake up, knowing you had a weird dream, but can't remember it.

While this may not sound agreeable to some here, it is what I believe to be true; when you go into the meditative trance or hypnosis it allows you to connect to your soul and the afterlife, basically you leave your body and brain behind and learn what the real you is. In this age of science, even before in the ages of religion, many will say you are just tripping, demons, aliens, etc, but it is such an incredibly powerful experience that even skeptics will have a hard time denying what they feel, provided they truly give this thought process an open-minded approach. I would say the weird dream was your actual reality and this reality is the weird dream, which perhaps is the following afterglow type experience, but that is an unfamiliar notion for people these days.

When you throw in some conscious-altering drugs, it can allow you go places that are from other dimensions that will change everything you think you know about reality. I've seen weird black-and-white marble rooms with red geometric flame in the background and nude alien-like beings dancing and moving diagonally, cartoon creatures that are partially plant and partially alien dancing on the walls, shit that I wouldn't just make up, stuff that I've never seen before in the weirdest of ways. It just can blow your mind and make you see it differently for sure.

Pretty sure that's why I seem so crazy to most people, when I go on about inter-dimensional beings and geometric dimensions of consciousness I just sound crazy, but if you actually experience it, you'll know it is beyond something that just being plain crazy is.

I guess this is why some people take drugs and never come back the same. Not so much they are addicted like most believe, but they are chasing a reality they have seen but just cannot get to.
 
So you don't believe that this trancelike state is a result of certain chemical processes going haywire combined with the power of suggestion? I mean, people make up some weird shit for stuff they can't explain - there being a 'rain god' is a good example before meteorology was understood.
 
So you don't believe that this trancelike state is a result of certain chemical processes going haywire combined with the power of suggestion? I mean, people make up some weird shit for stuff they can't explain - there being a 'rain god' is a good example before meteorology was understood.

I used to think this, used to be a very scientific person who didn't believe in life after death, until I had some of these profound experiences. If you study it as much as I have, there is no chemical explanation. Sure, you can say the closed-eye visuals from say LSD which are rainbow patterns in an ever-varying way are just chemicals, but when you start to get beings that are animated, beings that are outside your window walking around, only for you to leave for half an hour and return (they are still there), it makes you question that hypothesize. Furthermore, you begin to realize that consciousness itself has no chemical explanation at all, especially not various states of consciousness that constantly change throughout your life in ways that cannot ever be described or observed.

Even more strange that you and your friends both see the same hallucination, and eliminating the power of suggestion is that you both decide see a being in the same color without telling the other first, how is that even possible?

The way you felt when you went through a forest a few days ago against the food you ate yesterday, compared to other examples of being in the same forest or eating the same food, but your perception was far different. It gets even stranger when you start to realize the electric storm that occurs in the brain, as electricity itself is beyond our ability to measure or understand, but all physical matter has electric mass associated with it, yet what about this electricity that comes and goes in an unobservable way? Even if you just think of us as a bunch of atoms, what happens when you die? I mean your atoms don't just vanish, they go somewhere else, re-combining to new things, to which I would wonder, where does consciousness begin and end? Especially this is a question when you are seeing all this stuff with your eyes closed, because where the hell are you actually seeing it?

In the brain's cellular memory? What happens to those cells when the brain dies, is the memory lost, or does it proceed to merge with the bacteria that eat it and millions of years later evolve into another consciousness? What about the big bang and heat death of the universe, what about the sun going super nova, what happens to all the matter and energy then, what about black holes? I mean think about it, you might say you had no perception before you were born, but do you remember what you ate last thursday, what clothes you were wearing one year, nine months, four days ago, a license plate of a car you passed on the way to work today? I mean your memory of those events is the same as before birth, but you somehow still know you experienced those things or do you?

It gets even more bizarre if you've ever had a blackout or been put under anesthetic or overdosed on say methamphetamine like I have, as with the blackouts you just "wake up" in a place you don't remember how you got there, with a no memory of time, not even a memory of how long has past till you look at a clock and calendar, and anesthetic or coma is like no perception of time at all, whereas the meth overdose was like super-slowed down time, and just the most insane experience I can remember. I mean really, at what point where you not part of your mother's conscious mind when you were part of her body or your father's sperm? Think about it, every person born was always conscious, as they were part of their conscious mother's body always, and her mother before that, or is it that consciousness was always part of the father as he could always be conscious of sperm, perhaps why an orgasm feels so good as the start of new consciousness or is it when one is impregnated by the merging of two conscious minds, furthermore, then whence come our abstract-thinking if we were from more primitive conscious forms of life, or where did conscious life at all come from if from non conscious life, or is all matter and energy one giant form of consciousness that just has the illusion of separation, perhaps the wind itself is conscious.

Finally, if that doesn't make you think a little bit, then perhaps going by your example, our entire reality is the chemical process of some stoner's brain going haywire, perhaps we are all just someone else's trip, man, or perhaps our entire memory is a lie and we've always been alive and never died nor were born.

EDIT: I'd even argue the rain god might be more accurate than you might think. If we are mostly made up for water molecules and we drink water and piss water, and all the water just gets re-cycled, at what level does our consciousness come from and go to the water itself?

EDIT 2: If you want to go even further down this rabbit hole, at what point is consciousness in energy and in matter or chemical reactions? If you say something to me at what point are you conscious of it and it is part of you? If nobody hears it, what happens to that energy, if I hear and remember it, but you later forget it, which one really happened? When I see you at what point is it energy or matter that you are seen as? The energy of the light captures your energy and is stored in the matter-based eye by a chemical reaction or does it get saved in energy forever, does the energy just change, is it altered? What about someone with "phantom limb syndrome", does the arm's memory exist in their head or as energy, and is the memory of the physical matter or the energy that caused it to move or the memories of it interacting with other forms of matter and energy?

The more you think and study it, the less it makes sense.
 
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