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Opioids Oxy - Start dose for noob

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stevehoot

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Hi guys,

This really is a SWIM question...!

After searching the forums I can't find much other than 10 - 15mg dotted around to the question of dosage of EITHER OxyContin (whole or crushed) and/or Oxycodone instant release. (OxyNorm).

I have a fairly high tolerance, can happily take 60+ of the OC in a day.

However someone who isn't me is looking at trying some for the first time. I have 20mg OC's, and 5mg IR. I always take orally.

As I'm rather far of the mark myself, can anyone offer any guidance to an opioid native / noob given what is available to him? I'd like to ensure he's safe, but obviously he wants to have a blast at the same time, so I'm asking from a harm reduction point of view.

If you are kind enough to reply, can you advise if the quantities you are referring to are in quantities of 20mg OC as it comes, 20mg OC crushed or in quantities of 5mg OxyNorm / Instant Release.

Thanks - Steve
 
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stevehoot said:
Hi guys,

This really is a SWIM question...!

After searching the forums I can't find much other than 10 - 15mg dotted around to the question of dosage of EITHER OxyContin (whole or crushed) and/or Oxycodone instant release. (OxyNorm).

I have a fairly high tolerance, can happily take 120mg crushed of the OC.

However someone who isn't me is looking at trying some for the first time. I have 20mg OC's, and 5mg IR. I always take orally.

As I'm rather far of the mark myself, can anyone offer any guidance to an opioid native / noob given what is available to him? I'd like to ensure he's safe, but obviously he wants to have a blast at the same time, so I'm asking from a harm reduction point of view.

If you are kind enough to reply, can you advise if the quantities you are referring to are in quantities of 20mg OC as it comes, 20mg OC crushed or in quantities of 5mg OxyNorm / Instant Release.

Thanks - Steve
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It's not cool to turn your friends onto opiates.
 
Thanks everyone for your advice. I'll make sure he keeps safe on 10mg or less.

I get it prescribed for pain legitimately and he's been wanting to try one for a while. I'm not turning him onto opiates - I don't have any to give him so he wont be taking more than the 10mg the once. I'm not selling or pushing, just asking for safety advice. Think that's a better way to treat my mate rather than him taking god knows what dose from elsewhere.

Thanks again all.
 
stevehoot said:
Thanks everyone for your advice. I'll make sure he keeps safe on 10mg or less.

I get it prescribed for pain legitimately and he's been wanting to try one for a while. I'm not turning him onto opiates - I don't have any to give him so he wont be taking more than the 10mg the once. I'm not selling or pushing, just asking for safety advice. Think that's a better way to treat my mate rather than him taking god knows what dose from elsewhere.

Thanks again all.
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But you are introducing him to the most addicitive class of drugs on the planet. All it takes is that first high for him to start chasing it. I'm just saying, you should feel guilty if you introduce an opiate naive individual to opiates because statisically there is a a huge increase in the likelyhood of him ending up an opiate addict or heroin addict. If you're fine with that potential outcome occuring by all means go ahead.
 
pbuilder said:
But you are introducing him to the most addicitive class of drugs on the planet. All it takes is that first high for him to start chasing it. I'm just saying, you should feel guilty if you introduce an opiate naive individual to opiates because statisically there is a a huge increase in the likelyhood of him ending up an opiate addict or heroin addict. If you're fine with that potential outcome occuring by all means go ahead.
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You're assuming he'd take nothing if I wasn't involved. That isn't the case, and as someone with experience regarding the chemicals involved I thought it safer he take a dose which physician's even prescribe opiate naïve patients, over him speaking to a "guy he knows that sells some strong sh!t" that he met in the pub.

I personally feel I'm offering a safety net. I'm far from pushing / introducing. He's curious and will try it one way or another. At least in this situation I'm checking that it's a safe dose, it's happening somewhere safe and there's no way of him getting more than one dose from me. (As I need the rest to manage my pain).


Appreciate what you're saying, but this isn't diamorphine - it's the same as what a generous consultant would provide for pain post op using normal ROA's without access to more in a safe place for someone who is looking to try it already. I'm only considering offering it to him as the alternatives is him buying a handful of unknown "oxy" and taking whatever the hell he wants at home in private. This seems like a safer alternative.

Thank you for the concern though. Understand it's all about harm reduction, and that is the purpose of this. I gain nothing having a very good mate get hooked on something, from an ethical / moral point of view and also that I don't want him chasing me for my pain killers either!
 
At least don't supply him often or at all. It really is dangerous to delve into oxy when there's a constant supply (you) around.

Hopefully he vomits & hates it. Either way it's not advised..

There's only so much safety you can provide him. It's really up to him what happens after...
 
PotatoMan said:
At least don't supply him often or at all. It really is dangerous to delve into oxy when there's a constant supply (you) around.

Hopefully he vomits & hates it. Either way it's not advised..

There's only so much safety you can provide him. It's really up to him what happens after...
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This, thanks for chipping in man. Introducing someone to opiates is entirely different from them finding them on there own on the street. Most people won't resort to that, so in the end, they don't try them, and no potential for addiction. I know you can't stop a person from looking elsewhere, but I personally have never introduced another person to opiates because I know how addictive they are, and it's much easier to get addicted when you get them from a friend rather then having to resort to sketchy street dealers before you find a dealer, which is something not many people are willing to do.

And oxy isn't much different from heroin, it's a potent opiate.
 
My cousin had his wisdom teeth removed in Cali and came back here with Vicodin once and Norco the other. He gave these pills to me for free due to my curiosity and the time I had the Norco I only got to try 20mg and my mother found the rest and took them. I became so enraged that I was denied of that beautiful high and I ransacked her room and she said I was behaving like a fucking addict. I couldn't see if for myself but that high was fucking the bees knees.

Haven't had it since as it's not available in my country but I shit you not that is the sole reason I haven't done it again... Who knows what's gonna happen when I reach FL for school...
 
I don't advise it at all . Don't start ,and just get him as far as you can from OXY . I started OXY a few years ago ,and have moved up the opiate ladder to stronger ,and stronger ones with lots a shame that I so regret now looking back at it . When I first started I took a 30mg roxie ,and I was blasted away by how good it felt ,and I was nodding . After I got tired of the oral rout I started snorting a couple 30mg roxies ever few hours . Later I started shooting them . I moved to hydromorph , oxymorph , heroin , and as of today I am using a opiate some 15x stronger then heroin that I will not mention just for the sake of it getting ban . Let me tell you once you start opiates you are headed right down a long dark lonely road brother . I still get 120 30mg roxies a month prescribed to me ,but I rarely use them anymore unless I am out of my opiate of choice just to keep me from withdrawing . I know its sad ,but it now takes 300mg of OXY to keep me from completely withdrawing thats 10 roxies all down the hatch at once . Thats why when I get my prescription now I just get rid of them in ways I will not say . Ill keep a few thats it .

I never thought I would get addicted ,but it happens to the best of us . It kills my family seeing me . My GF sticks around with me ,but she hates it ,and it all started with that 1 little blue roxie that I call the devil. Its hard ;because everyone around me has them . My advice if you love this person ,or if its your best friend don't get them started .

Peace
 
5-10 MGs for starting. you'll get a buzzz. no need to go higher than that for your first time. I started taking percs when i was like 12-13 and a 5mg would get me a nice buzz. 10mg deff would get you feeling good. but it does depend on the person.
 
When hes sucking dick for his next hit u are gona feel like an asshole

its one thing to supply to ppl who are already using but i NEVER give anyone opiates for thier first time..my buddys exgf just died of an overdose and he started her on opiates..he is filled with guilt.

i think your delusions of being a "safety net" is ridiculous..theres no safety net when it comes to opiates u always hit the ground no matter how long or far u are falling
 
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I'm really new to oxy so I guess i can offer a different perspective to Hardered user.s 15-20 is plenty for your first time and will give a suitably intense high. If he wants more I find snorting 5 or so while peaking gives a bit of a rush but it doesn't last long. I'm slowly developing my own problem with this drug , so I recommend not starting at all but Im not going to pass judgement. If he's looking for a truly intense experience I would say 20-30 but again I have only used 4 times and am already spiralling, be careful. You don't want to be responsible for starting your friend on an addiction.
 
If you have no tolerance then five miligrams should get you well enough. To people saying 10-15 thats the equivalent of around 50 mg of hydrocodone thats not a good starting dose thats way to much. next time if you comment make sure you know what you are talking about
 
baller69 said:
If you have no tolerance then five miligrams should get you well enough. To people saying 10-15 thats the equivalent of around 50 mg of hydrocodone thats not a good starting dose thats way to much. next time if you comment make sure you know what you are talking about
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Very true. 5mg of oxy is enough for someone with zero tolerance who has never taken an opiate, and the person should just take the pill orally as it's designed to be taken and not plug, IV, or snort it.
 
ElvisPillsley said:
It's amazing to me that someone can get off on 10-15 mg, hell I used to.

To have that back...
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Tell me about it man. I need 500mg a day to stay out of withdrawals .. Thats with 0 buzz. I would give anything for the day 30mg would get me off .
 
I won't get into the "don't get your friend into opiates" discussion because people do what they want to do and believe what they want to believe. I'm sure it's just this once, anywho...

For someone with NO opiate tolerance, first time ever -- why go with more than 5 mg? He should feel great off that and if not, 10 mg. Don't do more than that on the first time, that's just asking for trouble.
 
All my friends who got into "blues", oxycodone 30mg IR, turned to heroin. We got a bad heroin epidemic in NJ, its in everywhere and its potent. A little 10mg stamp bag is as strong as a blue.
 
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