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EADD Oi! What Do You Look Like? v. Heroin Chic' Vs 'Cracked-out Chick

Good person. Honest looking. The kind of person you wouldn't in a million years suspect I would have used drugs, for example

I also smile. People like that about me. Discreet and agreeable :) have a certain humbleness.

Handsome. Sweet eyes (every one says that), all together but mostly because I have a good heart, great smile, so they tell me. Look calm, although I m not..

I'm also normally very polite. Truthful..
 
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I dont believe consciousness resides in the brain - is one brain cell consicous ?, two?, 100? 10000? - I think that we use the body as a vessel which after all completely changes every seven years due to cell regeneration so your a different 'person' every seven years. Matter can not be created or destroyed so our bodies turn in to another form of matter and our consciouness goes on to another plane of existence (of which there are infinite ones).
I remember one particularly strong and insightful trip where it became clear that everything is connected from a grain of sand to a mountain to a man and that connection never changes where ever 'you' reside.
Sorry this is something I should spend alot more time and words to explain but this is probably not the right place to do it : )

Oh and talking of black - one of my closest i came to dieing was when i od'd and I had the black tunnel effect closing in around me and I knew if it went past the pinprick of light i could see i would die - I fought hard as hell and managed to keep the light - it was a truely phychic battle that for me lasted hours but in fact was only 2-3 minutes long.
 
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Hehe talking about piercings, i had abunch when i was young and wild =D

*gones*

i also got my nipple pierced once but that was a mistake haha =D hehe and plenty of hair colors, i might show you all the hair colors i had once haha %)
 
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blondin said:
I dont believe consciousness resides in the brain - is one brain cell consicous ?, two?, 100? 10000? - I think that we use the body as a vessel which after all completely changes every seven years due to cell regeneration so your a different 'person' every seven years. Matter can not be created or destroyed so our bodies turn in to another form of matter and our consciouness goes on to another plane of existence (of which there are infinite ones).
I remember one particularly strong and insightful trip where it became clear that everything is connected from a grain of sand to a mountain to a man and that connection never changes where ever 'you' reside.
Sorry this is something I should spend alot more time and words to explain but this is probably not the right place to do it : )

Oh and talking of black - one of my closest i came to dieing was when i od'd and I had the black tunnel effect closing in around me and I knew if it went past the pinprick of light i could see i would die - I fought hard as hell and managed to keep the light - it was a truely phychic battle that for me lasted hours but in fact was only 2-3 minutes long.
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Very interesting. The 2-3 minutes worth a lot of hours too. I relate with this very much. From sand to mountains..
 
blondin said:
I dont believe consciousness resides in the brain - is one brain cell consicous ?, two?, 100? 10000? - I think that we use the body as a vessel which after all completely changes every seven years due to cell regeneration so your a different 'person' every seven years. Matter can not be created or destroyed so our bodies turn in to another form of matter and our consciouness goes on to another plane of existence (of which there are infinite ones).
I remember one particularly strong and insightful trip where it became clear that everything is connected from a grain of sand to a mountain to a man and that connection never changes where ever 'you' reside.
Sorry this is something I should spend alot more time and words to explain but this is probably not the right place to do it : )

Oh and talking of black - one of my closest i came to dieing was when i od'd and I had the black tunnel effect closing in around me and I knew if it went past the pinprick of light i could see i would die - I fought hard as hell and managed to keep the light - it was a truely phychic battle that for me lasted hours but in fact was only 2-3 minutes long.
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What if a cell is conscious in a simple way (in that it chemically senses its environment and reacts to it, or 'decides') and that our consciousness is an emergent property of trillions of those cells acting together - the same way that ants in an ant colony individually follow a few simple chemical rules with no central control and yet when enough do this at once complex behaviours 'emerge' and they become a 'superorganism'; ant colonies can make quite complex 'decisions' like how to efficiently transport food, when to move nest, crossing rivers, even basic agriculture. In the same way maybe each cell acts individually constrained by its own chemical rules but the dynamic collective action of all cells allows higher level behaviours to emerge; and within the specific dense networks of the neural cells, even more complex behaviours/systems could emerge, even maybe a sense of self or 'self-loop'. This is a (rough) description of how the science of complexity and self-organising systems may look at these things.

The related idea of autopoiesis says that the cell shouldn't be thought of as a physical thing so much as a process or pattern of organisation through which matter flows, and which creates its own structure (autopoiesis means 'self making') - life is defined as this self-organising dynamic pattern of flow (whather at the level of cell organ or organism).

I'm not sure if i 'feel' those interpretations more than yours (or even if they contradict each other) - though i'm with you on the eveything's connected stuff. I've felt everything you described on some trips; though i've also felt like i could sense my emergent consciousness dissolve into cellular awareness on pcp (maybe it's all being on drugs and reality's boring -hope not though :)

(weird thread to chat about this)
 
blondin said:
I dont believe consciousness resides in the brain - is one brain cell consicous ?, two?, 100? 10000? - I think that we use the body as a vessel which after all completely changes every seven years due to cell regeneration so your a different 'person' every seven years. Matter can not be created or destroyed so our bodies turn in to another form of matter and our consciouness goes on to another plane of existence (of which there are infinite ones).
I remember one particularly strong and insightful trip where it became clear that everything is connected from a grain of sand to a mountain to a man and that connection never changes where ever 'you' reside.
Sorry this is something I should spend alot more time and words to explain but this is probably not the right place to do it : )

Oh and talking of black - one of my closest i came to dieing was when i od'd and I had the black tunnel effect closing in around me and I knew if it went past the pinprick of light i could see i would die - I fought hard as hell and managed to keep the light - it was a truely phychic battle that for me lasted hours but in fact was only 2-3 minutes long.
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I've been watching/listening to a number of things along these lines recently. And obviously reading and listening to such thing previously. Buggered if I can recall which specific one it is but I was listening to a german neuroolgist debating that (frankly twattish) English philosopher Colin Somebody (or nobody I can remember the name of). Also some French bird who also happens to be an uberneurologist type.

Either way, the theory they speak of is well-known but buggered if I can recall its "proper" name. Tis the one about "qualia" and so forth. "Information" summat or other. But essentially what you are suggesting above.

I have often felt similar. This approach "feels" right to me. The implications (if accepted as "right") would be somewhat devastating to most all that exist today, I suspect. Not least for the fact that almost all animals and probably any future computers (beyond a (Moore's Law) generation or so) will be covered by it. The implications are enormous. The question is, do "we" take them seriously or opt for a simpler, more selfish and - frankly - more wanky and less feasible philosophical stance? Dunno. Has been bugging me for some time now though...
 
Vurtual said:
What if a cell is conscious in a simple way (in that it chemically senses its environment and reacts to it, or 'decides') and that our consciousness is an emergent property of trillions of those cells acting together - the same way that ants in an ant colony individually follow a few simple chemical rules with no central control and yet when enough do this at once complex behaviours 'emerge' and they become a 'superorganism'; ant colonies can make quite complex 'decisions' like how to efficiently transport food, when to move nest, crossing rivers, even basic agriculture. In the same way maybe each cell acts individually constrained by its own chemical rules but the dynamic collective action of all cells allows higher level behaviours to emerge; and within the specific dense networks of the neural cells, even more complex behaviours/systems could emerge, even maybe a sense of self or 'self-loop'. This is a (rough) description of how the science of complexity and self-organising systems may look at these things.

The related idea of autopoiesis says that the cell shouldn't be thought of as a physical thing so much as a process or pattern of organisation through which matter flows, and which creates its own structure (autopoiesis means 'self making') - life is defined as this self-organising dynamic pattern of flow (whather at the level of cell organ or organism).

I'm not sure if i 'feel' those interpretations more than yours (or even if they contradict each other) - though i'm with you on the eveything's connected stuff. I've felt everything you described on some trips; though i've also felt like i could sense my emergent consciousness dissolve into cellular awareness on pcp (maybe it's all being on drugs and reality's boring -hope not though :)

(weird thread to chat about this)
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I have often wondered if my penis has a separate consciousness from my own.
 
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A happy Pagey!
 
ponch said:
Hello friends. Today I have been mainly acting the prat and climbing temples.
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Wow did you actually climb up the outside? Where is this - are they not bothered about foreigners climbing their temples (assuming you're not a local)? haha
 
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