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Brain damage after one time ecstasy and cocaine use

djbudslinger

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Hello Bluelight,

About 6 months ago I experienced the worst night of my life, and I am still feeling the effects today. I told myself that it was going to be my last time doing ecstasy ever (never had any bad experiences, had rolled heavily before, loved the drug prior to this point). For some reason I thought it would be a good idea to take .4g of some untested substance. All of my friends were taking .2 and .25, but I was an experienced user so for some reason I thought I could do more. I had previously rolled all 3 days at lollapalooza and ultra music festival, with no bad comedowns at all (rolling around .6 a day). About an hour after initial use, I started to overheat a ridiculous amount and I started doing lines of cocaine because I was freaking out so much. I didn't know what to do so my only thought was to get more fucked up, which has always been no problem before. I also took a few bong snaps of 50% tobacco 50% weed. Also took a few pulls of vodka and smoked a few cigarettes. I did about 4 or 5 lines within an hour and continued to have the worst thoughts I have ever had. I was slightly hallucinating, my eyes were rolling back in my head, I couldn't speak a full sentence no matter how hard I tried, and I was hearing voices. At this point I locked myself in my room and attempted to just fall asleep. I kept waking up with a jerk, and honestly the whole experience was kind of a blur, iI just remember having the worst thoughts and having thoughts of suicide because I hated myself so much that night. The next morning I was scared to do anything. I lost my interest in everything and all of the sudden the only thing I wanted to do was lay in bed. I experienced depersonalization/derealization, shaky hands and body, no temperature regulation in my body,blurry vision, inability to keep any train of thought, chipped back teeth from clenching too hard, among other things. I was extrememly depressed for around 4 months, and now I just feel so stupid that I did this to myself at such an important time in my life. I will never know how smart I was supposed to be and I feel like I cannot carry out my original life plan. I attend a top 30 university and I have no idea how I survived the past 6 months in school. It has been 6 months and I swear I have lost my ability to write, read, or have coherent thoughts. Even writing this thread is difficult, and I feel like I am writing at the level of a 2nd grader compared to my previous level.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with this much cocaine and ecstasy? All the other posts I have read are considerably less doses and don't involved cocaine. I weigh about 145 pounds and that day I had not eaten anything and was previously blackout drunk the day before. It was welcome week at my school and this is when this happened.

It freaks me the fuck out when other people say that they still feel the effects 2 years later, when they did half of the dose I did, or 3/4 of the dose I did, even without the cocaine.

I am constantly at battle with myself, convincing myself sometimes that I was always like this, and that the I just lost my confidence in my mental abilities. But I almost know thats not true. I started taking antidepressants (zoloft) and they have helped numb my emotions a little bit. But I still have blurry vision/decreased ability to think and produce thoughts. I just feel fucking stupid now.

Has anyone else had a similar experience?

Can anyone offer me any words of advice?

Will my brain ever return to normal????
 
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I have also smoked pot daily for the past 3 years, but had no problems functioning, doing schoolwork, doing anything really. I could do everything when i was high. I continued use after the incident because I never thought marijuana had any bad terrible effects. I have recently stopped smoking weed but still smoke cigarettes daily.
 
you just simply went to hard. detailed war story tho. i have abused mdma hardcore in the past, its gunna take a while to heal. eat healthy, exercise and get sunshine. with mdma less is more. it took me years to learn that. believe me eye kno how addicting the feeling and lifestyle is.

oh and for anybody it may interest, mdma + coke = coke deleting your roll.
save coke for the comedown or another time if anything.

forreal the sunshine is key for mdma recovery. ive been there done that. just be eazy and patient youll be fine.

oh and just so you kno your after effects are normal considering what all you did.

it always sunshines after the rain................atleast here in florida
 
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I started doing lines of cocaine because I was freaking out so much. I didn't know what to do so my only thought was to get more fucked up, which has always been no problem before.

People on this site will never cease to amaze me.

Hopefully you'll be ok. No body knows and nobody can tell you whether you'd be okay or not. Best stay away from drugs, some people shouldn't be doing drugs.
 
oh and for anybody it may interest, mdma + coke = coke deleting your roll.

Not true, it might dull the roll a bit but its just going to add to the anxiety of a bad drug trip. My friend had the same brilliant idea on a shroom trip and ended up in the hospital.
 
Not true, it might dull the roll a bit but its just going to add to the anxiety of a bad drug trip. My friend had the same brilliant idea on a shroom trip and ended up in the hospital.
Coke is a triple reuptake inhibitor. It competes with MDMA aggressively for occupation of among others the serotonin receptor (a bit like an SSRI but not selective for serotonin receptors only) so coke will dull a roll more than just a bit, do enough of it and you won't feel much of the MDMA. This blunting effect is probably what you describe as "added anxiety of a bad drug trip", since some effects will still be felt, enough to make you uncomfortable but not experience a full roll, a bit like underdosing MDMA on its own. Probably a pretty unhealthy combo as well. Djbudslinger did you test your drugs with a testkit?
 
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Its not like im addicted or anything. It was supposed to be my last time rolling ever, and thats why i chose to do so much. Did u have the same problems with your vision this long after, and did it return?
 
the vision issue is probably because your brain and body are workin on getting normal so maybe messages between your eyes n brain are not functioning good right now. i wasnt sayin you were addicted i was jus given info on my level of experience. patience and eating n living healthy is all you can really do.
get sunshine, i swear by it.
 
Cocaine will absolutely and nearly instantly cancel the desired effects of MDMA. If you take much more to try to compensate you open the door for serious problems.

However it is not the interaction of cocaine and mdma itself that is responsible for your problems.
 
Cocaine will absolutely and nearly instantly cancel the desired effects of MDMA. If you take much more to try to compensate you open the door for serious problems.

However it is not the interaction of cocaine and mdma itself that is responsible for your problems.

So what is responsible for my problems? Is it possible that I am not much dumber now and it is all just in my head? I just feel dumber, but I can't really tell. I know for a fact that directly after the incident I was border line retarded and couldn't really function. Is it possible i've recovered now and am just still caught in a fog of denial?
 
If you were rolling with .6 grams of MDMA for the previous three days, and did .4 grams the day you had all these troubles, do you think you actually were actually dealing with MDMA and not something else? And geeze, that's a lot of MDMA to do repeatedly. Does it even work after 3 days?
 
If you were rolling with .6 grams of MDMA for the previous three days, and did .4 grams the day you had all these troubles, do you think you actually were actually dealing with MDMA and not something else? And geeze, that's a lot of MDMA to do repeatedly. Does it even work after 3 days?

No I did not roll with that much the previous days. I was saying that I had in recent experience rolled .6 three days in a row at music festivals. Meaning that I have had a lot of experience with mdma before with no bad experiences. Prior to this event I had not rolled in about 3 or 4 months.
 
So what is responsible for my problems? Is it possible that I am not much dumber now and it is all just in my head? I just feel dumber, but I can't really tell. I know for a fact that directly after the incident I was border line retarded and couldn't really function. Is it possible i've recovered now and am just still caught in a fog of denial?

Probably the latter. Your brain should've upregulated serotonin by now, and the cannabis you smoked after the incident should've accelerated that healing. There was probably something else in addition to MDMA in that dose, perhaps (meth)amphetamine or, worse, a piperazine or caffeine.
 
So what is responsible for my problems? Is it possible that I am not much dumber now and it is all just in my head? I just feel dumber, but I can't really tell. I know for a fact that directly after the incident I was border line retarded and couldn't really function. Is it possible i've recovered now and am just still caught in a fog of denial?

Have you read around the forum? Not trying to scare you but what you describe isn't rare at all. I'm still "dumber" (cognitive deficits) in many ways 15 months after trying MDMA.
 
Have you read around the forum? Not trying to scare you but what you describe isn't rare at all. I'm still "dumber" (cognitive deficits) in many ways 15 months after trying MDMA.


How do you know that youre actually dumber, and that its not all in your head? How do you know that your cognitive abilities haven't been repaired to what they were before, and that maybe you just think you're dumber?
 
This is "new you",you will get used to this, but actualy you will get better. You have burned your serotonin axons with cocaine hard on comedown. Now just dont panic and wait, serotoninn axons should recover, and zoloft does its job really good. 3 months i bet you ae back to normal..
 
This is "new you",you will get used to this, but actualy you will get better. You have burned your serotonin axons with cocaine hard on comedown. Now just dont panic and wait, serotoninn axons should recover, and zoloft does its job really good. 3 months i bet you ae back to normal..

I stopped taking zoloft after about 2 weeks. I felt better initially, then i felt that it wasnt doing anything, so i stopped taking it. Do you think I should get back on it? I have been taking a decent amount of xanax, which honestly gives me more clarity than when im sober(i just have trouble remembering shit), and i have been smoking a fair amount of pot. Do you think the zoloft will still do the trick if i'm doing these things? I was concerned with the zoloft messing with my sex drive.
 
I also have been taking adderal to help me study... but i am reluctant to do so because i feel like its prolonging my healing. But if i dont take it i cant motivate myself to do work...even when im on it it doesnt help that much
 
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