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25g, different lengths. Some come with the drug, the shorter ones are supplied.
 
29-31g an 1/2 length. The larger the number the smaller the needle, the smaller the needle the less damage is caused when inserting. Its also easier to hit a vein with a thinner needle. The thinner it is the more margin you have when in the vein. I do 1/2 length that way it minimizes going too far and going through the vein and when its in, its all the way in so its MUCH easier to hold steady because the end of the barrel is against your skin :) But the larger it is(thickness) the larger a hole you make in your vein. So if you do it s lot your arms and veins will last longer. You only have 1 of everything and it needs to last your whole life :)
 
Screaming_Skull said:
Oh, I thought the shorter tipped ones like 30 gauge or whatever were better for veins?? Seem like it would make sense,esp if your like having trouble and just moving a long needle around in your vein piercing through it and stuff...
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The Gauge number is the Thickness/size of the opening of the needle, not the length and you should never move the needle around to find the vein, that just tears shit up. If you didnt hit the vein pull out and reinsert dont root around.
 
baggerr said:
29-31g an 1/2 length. The larger the number the smaller the needle, the smaller the needle the less damage is caused when inserting. Its also easier to hit a vein with a thinner needle. The thinner it is the more margin you have when in the vein. I do 1/2 length that way it minimizes going too far and going through the vein and when its in, its all the way in so its MUCH easier to hold steady because the end of the barrel is against your skin :) But the larger it is(thickness) the larger a hole you make in your vein. So if you do it s lot your arms and veins will last longer. You only have 1 of everything and it needs to last your whole life :)
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I think having to hold a syringe steady for the entire time would be really difficult, resting against skin or not. I think I would have to be pretty desperate to use a needle connected directly to the syringe, with nothing in between. I'd rather use the long needles I get, with the tubing.
 
I usually go for the 29g longs, but occasionally I will do the 30g shorts. Depends on what I'm using, really. Morphine or thicker liquids need a larger guage; I've had coke that would only go through a 27g which I think is a harpoon. I have a friend who does liquid oxy and it's so thick he needs the huge ones to do it. 25g or bigger.
 
BlueIV said:
I think having to hold a syringe steady for the entire time would be really difficult, resting against skin or not. I think I would have to be pretty desperate to use a needle connected directly to the syringe, with nothing in between. I'd rather use the long needles I get, with the tubing.
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If you have the needle in so it cant go farther (shorts) and you rest your hand on your arm you cant get much more steady than that. Part of being steady is your injection hand moving in conjunction with your other arm if you move. If you hand is resting against your arm and the syringe is in a position that it cannot go "in" and farther, only out, you have the most stable position you'll ever get. I watch people that try injecting and they are holding the syringe in mid air with nothing to help hold still or in/out and they fuck up all the time because its impossible to keep that hand steady AND depress the plunger.
I never miss, let me rephrase that sometimes on insertion I wont have the spot, so I pull out, re-insert, that happens like 1-30 sticks. But once I have position and register I never have any problems. Never miss, ever. I've been IVing for about 5 yrs pretty regular the last 2 yrs and in all that time I've missed twice and both times it was because I moved in the middle of the process.
The trick to it is 2 things, learning what angle and how deep you need to go so you get it on the first stick and keeping your hands and arms STEADY from the time you insert to the time you pull out. Most of the people I see that miss are because they dont stay still. Like I said its almost impossible to hold your hand free in the air, not move and depress the plunger. Thats where I see most people make their miss. They register and think they are good, but when they moved from pulling the plunger to pushing it, they move and it only takes a little bit of movement and you're out of the vein and missed shot.
If you use a long tip, you wont insert it all the way in because thats too far with a long tip, which makes holding it in the correct in/out position more difficult
 
baggerr said:
If you have the needle in so it cant go farther (shorts) and you rest your hand on your arm you cant get much more steady than that. Part of being steady is your injection hand moving in conjunction with your other arm if you move. If you hand is resting against your arm and the syringe is in a position that it cannot go "in" and farther, only out, you have the most stable position you'll ever get. I watch people that try injecting and they are holding the syringe in mid air with nothing to help hold still or in/out and they fuck up all the time because its impossible to keep that hand steady AND depress the plunger.
I never miss, let me rephrase that sometimes on insertion I wont have the spot, so I pull out, re-insert, that happens like 1-30 sticks. But once I have position and register I never have any problems. Never miss, ever. I've been IVing for about 5 yrs pretty regular the last 2 yrs and in all that time I've missed twice and both times it was because I moved in the middle of the process.
The trick to it is 2 things, learning what angle and how deep you need to go so you get it on the first stick and keeping your hands and arms STEADY from the time you insert to the time you pull out. Most of the people I see that miss are because they dont stay still. Like I said its almost impossible to hold your hand free in the air, not move and depress the plunger. Thats where I see most people make their miss. They register and think they are good, but when they moved from pulling the plunger to pushing it, they move and it only takes a little bit of movement and you're out of the vein and missed shot.
If you use a long tip, you wont insert it all the way in because thats too far with a long tip, which makes holding it in the correct in/out position more difficult
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You don't think it's better to just tape the needle down and not have it directly attached to the syringe? I need to inject over 5 minutes, due to the specified flow rate.
 
BlueIV said:
You don't think it's better to just tape the needle down and not have it directly attached to the syringe? I need to inject over 5 minutes, due to the specified flow rate.
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Either I missed it or you didnt mention it, that you need 5 minutes. My bad if I missed that fact :) Yes I would agree, doing it like you were getting an IV at the hospital to keep it still. I was speaking to doing a normal slam that takes less than a minute. In out done :) Holding still for 5 minutes isnt happening lol
 
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