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The ISIS Megathread

But I'll as usual come in on the side of the right:

The atrocities committed by Islamic Terrorists could never be justified by any other known religion, other than Islam. The Bible may have within it's pages alleged history that includes stealing of women and rape, murder, and genocide (Moses would have been considered a terrorist now), but those are clearly understood to be situational, and of the times. For whatever reason, people accept when reading its passages, that these things don't apply to now. The Bible has/had many different authors, and many translations, and Jesus basically trumps all of the old laws (though there is contradiction with this, he clearly teaches forgiveness, and non condemnation). Jesus is a role model for Christians, even if they don't follow fully. Though there may be 'Christian' terrorists (Africa, Breivik claimed to be for Christendom- he was a 'Cultural Christian' which doesn't mean Christian... Just that he is a result of the process that it took and culture took with it, and whatnot, and the enlightenment, and individualism, and whatnot, in Europe) or atrocities committed by people who drink water and eat food, their actions cannot be justified by the words of their accepted God-Jesus who teaches pacifism, and forgiveness, and love, most dominantly. Muslims on the other hand hold Muhammad as the Seal of Prophets. There will be no other. And he was militant. His message began as peaceful, when he and his people were in the minority, and then as he gained followers, his message became more violent. When he had support, he was less afraid and more boisterous. He was cocky. And since he is the singular author, and Muslims must accept him, of course, it is much harder to argue what he lays down as anything other than Gods will, and law. He is and his message is absolute, meant to correct the errors of previous attempts (Christianity, Judaism).

Basically, Islamic Terrorists are justified by their book, no matter what moderate Muslims say, or their allies, the liberal and left, say, a lot of the time. Christians however are not righteous by their book in what they may do that's compared to these acts, or whatever.

To be fair: I find it hard to believe that this direct of an attack on children is justified by the Quran, despite what I just said. Muhammad was militant, but I don't see him doing this. Moses would have, but he would have destroyed the entire city. Maybe Muhammad too. I really don't know. Jesus wouldn't have, though, if he is really God he is the devil, so..
 
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Blanco said:
Sure buddy. The Australians gave this guy asylum, their liberal legal system let him walk free while facing accessory to murder changes for the killing of his wife and rape, and then he goes on to do this. Despite displaying a flag of radical Islamists and many other indicators, many radical leftists will play the same old broken record. McVeigh, Brevik, Bible verses saying it's ok to kill...it's getting old.

Looks like I have to explain it to you. Escher's point wasn't, "Look! Christianity is bad too!" but rather that Islam contains with it the same variation of practices (from deplorable to relatively innocuous) that we see within Christianity (again, from deplorable to relatively innocuous), so the type of critique you leveled was rooted in faulty generalization.

ebola
 
Looks like I have to explain it to you. Escher's point wasn't, "Look! Christianity is bad too!" but rather that Islam contains with it the same variation of practices (from deplorable to relatively innocuous) that we see within Christianity (again, from deplorable to relatively innocuous), so the type of critique you leveled was rooted in faulty generalization.

ebola

Yes, child brides, honour killings, stoning to death for homosexuals and adulterers and terrorism is just as common in Christian countries as Muslim. Let's all just bury our heads in the sand and talk about how great multiculturalism is.

LosBlancos
 
Yes, child brides, honour killings, stoning to death for homosexuals and adulterers and terrorism is just as common in Christian countries as Muslim. Let's all just bury our heads in the sand and talk about how great multiculturalism is.

LosBlancos

speaking of broken records.

any excuse to love > any excuse to hate
if for no reason other than it is experientially better. you only get one life. it's up to you if you want to live it miserably cynical or happily optimistic. in the absence of any actual truth, these are indeed the choices it comes down to.

the glass is twice the size it should be :p
 
Yes the people of Europe! Don't be mad about the pirates stealing your brothers, sisters, and children! Be optimistic! Yes people of Europe.. Uhh... Don't worry about the Islamic expansion! It will be okay! -did not say anyone that beat the ottomans back.
 
hate on, brother. if that's what get you off. 8)

the sky must have been really high for it to have been falling for the past few hundred years and still not hit the ground.
 
Yes the people of Europe! Don't be mad about the pirates stealing your brothers, sisters, and children! Be optimistic! Yes people of Europe.. Uhh... Don't worry about the Islamic expansion! It will be okay! -did not say anyone that beat the ottomans back.

I do worry, indeed!!
 
collateral damage~

why not just say killing civilians


send in British and USA, AUs, NZ SAS to sort it now. tbh.
No civilians will die. all isis don't stand a chance

on the contray you'll need boots on da ground. heaps of poopies though I'd be grabbing those


/this will kick pakistan in2 gear
wats that m8?
 
speaking of broken records.

any excuse to love > any excuse to hate
if for no reason other than it is experientially better. you only get one life. it's up to you if you want to live it miserably cynical or happily optimistic. in the absence of any actual truth, these are indeed the choices it comes down to.

the glass is twice the size it should be :p

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to go nothing-Edmund Burke
 
I'm not sure if you're talking about the bible or the Koran. Seriously, I don't.

Wait, you said 10. Bible has someone marrying a 3 year old. So probably the Koran.

I'm not talking about a book, but rather how the books teachings manifest within cultures.

Which Christian countries stone women to death, hang or stone apostates and gays, and adulterers? Please let me know, it is rampant across the Islamic countries.
 
I stated before, however long the post was-- The Quran had one 'author'- a man who is considered by Muslims to be the 'Seal of prophets'- the final one. There will be no further prophets. The Quran is touted as being the clear message, and it means itself to be this in contrast to the Bible and its older portion, which they say has become corrupted.

I understand what you are doing, lefties, and in ways you're right, but you're right by just being asses and not actually giving us anything to work with. As it stands, Christians don't usually look to the old testament for how they should live their lives. They look to Jesus, who didn't even marry at least for what information we have. Once again, he was peaceful- the role model of Christians is archetypically peaceful dude, where as the role model of Islam murdered people, and fucked a 9 year old girl (but hey, not to judge).

The bible had many authors. If everything was written by their role model Jesus, or from his words exactly, and they still included stuff about marrying 3 year olds and killing babies, then you've got a point.

Christianity as it is went through many changes. Even Judaism in part due to its connections with the Roman empire and Europe. Enlightenments. Thoughts challenged. The last man killed for blasphemy according to Christianity was in England maybe 200 years ago. Islam hasn't experienced such things. If it has, it is because of European influence. Islam is much harder to change. It is much easier to justify violence and rape and kidnappings by it (are they Muslim Christian or Jew? Free to rape them. -the Koran).

Christians, also, consider atrocities that happened in the Bible, in the olden days, as stuff that happened then.... Not as instruction manuals for how to conduct themselves now- as the Quran is to Muslims.

Jews... Circumcision should be banned. And your rabbis need to stop sucking baby cock. Yea, anyways.
 
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L2R, so the dude who is applying force to your anus with a hard cockweapon... He is just applying power. And you should smile. The glass is half full. He he.
 
i can't help if i'm attractive. maybe i shouldn't wear enticing clothing aye. maybe i shouldn't buy my pants at target, since they rock the bullseye label right above my anus. maybe i shouldn't get on my knees and beg for it as i so often do. maybe, just maybe, i shouldn't pay for it.
 
Oh and, sorry for the triple post, but how regularly do Christians stone adulterers and whatnot, compared to how often Muslims do? How often do they marry little girls, compared? It may happen, and it may be for 'Muslims' tied to their region and earlier cultures, except for extremists... But yea... This bringing up Christians... Gets old. "The Crusades! Generations ago!", let's talk about now. At least how it applies.

But I do guess it needs to be said/challenged, if only to be thorough.
 
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