Do rehab centers really work?

[jinetakosa]

My sister left one and was doing really well at a half way house then had a relapse and tried to kill hersef. I will help pay for her to go back. Would it be better for me to give her money to get her on her feet again and lots of love and sapport. I have never heard of someone truly being helped by digging into their past only hurt.

Please check florida rehab center

 

[neversickanymore]

Hey and welcome to BL.

im going to move this to TDS.. I Will also post on this thread tomorow with some ideas for you two consider.

 

[cj]

Rehab centers 1 year success rate is generally around 5 percent. I think setting her up on her feet is the better option but I'm sure some will disagree.

 

[njirem]

For anybody going to rehab with 99.9 % motiviation it will probably fail, when you are 100 % motivated they will help you save your life. Its not the rehab that will save you, it can only be the helping hand when you want to save yourself.

 

[neversickanymore]

If its going to be a twelve step rehab then she may want to attend NA or AA meetings first as they are free. Rehabs to not automatically heal addicts; They must change the way they think and behave. They must also put the work in and heal from the wounds of addiction. They must also identify and treat the root cause of the addiction.

I would check into a good substance abuse counselor and combine this with either the fellowships and/or SMART.

You may also want to turn her onto BL as we have a whole bunch of people sucsefully handling their addictions in a wide variety of ways. There is a lot of wisdom and great support here.

 

[Erikmen]

Rehab is basically the first step you make towards getting clean.
I know a lot of people who didn´t make it and relapsed the soonest they were allowed to go out.
In rehab all you talk is about what you have been missing. People often trade info regarding how you can do better and who sells what and where.
From my perspective it only suits you if you really want to go on being sober with you real life. 'Just for one day' for now.

 

[fizzymk]

Ive been to 3 different rehabs over the years, All of them, I was free to leave, as they cannot hold an adult there if they dont want to be there, after 3-4 days, I was ready to go, couldnt take it anymore. Looking back, the one my ex-GF got me into was the best and I truly regret conning and manipulating her and them that I absolutely had to leave that day...I made up some story about my job, and how I had to go back to work, yada, yada, this was somewhat true, my job did have alot going on at the time, but my boss had told me he had put my on medical leave for as long as it took, but I sort of twisted his words around and made it appear I would fired if I did not go to work.

That rehab had a medical detox, I was given phenobarb, Librium, and something to sleep, but by the 3rd day, i was really chipping, kept thinking about copping on the outside, and all these shitty feelings would go away, so I got to scheming, like all addicts do when put out of reach of their DOC...on the cab ride home, I was on my phone to my connection and had shit waiting for me as soon as I got home, I knew how addicted I truly was then.

My most recent rehab was at a Salvation army rehab, it was 100% free, met some great people there, they were all very nice, My first night, I was go motivated to stick with this rehab, but I was only there for 3 days, was withdrwling very bad, and it got the best of me, again, I felt regret leaving, but told myself I could do it on the outside, How wrong I was!

For ANY rehab to work, you literally have to WANT to be clean and be totally sick of using...Im in the position where I really NEED to quit, as its ruining my life, but I still LOVE it too much, this is the toughest part to get over IMO.

 

[fizzymk]

Sorry, forgot to mention this in my last post, Ive seen that TV commercial for Passages Malibu, a rehab somewhere in southern CA, the commercial shows this beautiful place with ocean views, people getting spa treatments, acupuncture, swimming, a lobby with a huge fountain, etc. Im not sure of the cost, but I think its one of those rehabs movie stars go to.

Im not sure how they approach withdrawl and rehab, but I believe they claim 95% success rate, so maybe money does matter when it comes to getting clean?

Anyone ever been in a rehab like this?

 

[CosmicG]

I have seen those commercials myself fizzy and wondered what that was all about.

I have been too several rehabs both in patient and out patient, usually after I hit rock bottom from drug use, forced by parents at a young age, and once even to avoid going to jail and after spending 45 days there relapsed immediately and spent ninety days in a county jail. Rehab did not work for me in the sense that it was meant to, but I had some incredible sober times there and met some awesome people so I would not trade those experiences for anything. If you are truly lost like I have been and sometimes still am, there is help and a lot of people you dont know willing to help you for free, And that is really cool. All of this but I relapsed within days after my release and would plan it hefore I even got out. I felt great being sober but something draws me to this lifestyle. I have grown to accept but the point is nothing like rehab can fix you solely on its own. You have to want to change. Everything. And that is just terrifying.

 

[Maya]

For anybody going to rehab with 99.9 % motiviation it will probably fail, when you are 100 % motivated they will help you save your life. Its not the rehab that will save you, it can only be the helping hand when you want to save yourself.

This. When i was recovering, i sought support from my family, i thought of rehab but it was more of a last resort for me. I was motivated to stop because i can no longer suffer like that and can no longer see the pain in my dad's eyes and my entire family. I do hope your sister finds the strength in herself to get her life together for you. You are a good sibling and shes lucky to have you. What i think would help more is a strong support system, your family is what i thinking, it has worked for me because i saw how my family wanted me back. I am thankful every single day that i have this family who loves me so much.

 

[KHoledHippy]

I had a 2 year Opiate and a 6 year Ketamine Addition. I went into 3 different Rehab centres always relapsing into the first week. I was given some DMT extract a very small baggie of this browned/yellowish rocky dust. I smoked a hit on a pipe and within seconds was transported into space. I had a intense trip but I was totally aware of what was going on and what I had just smoked. the trip was so intense extreme patterns 10x more than a hard LSD trip I was blasting trough what I thought was space reliving my birth. After I was getting used to all this its slowed down and the room started to come back. it was like a dream I asked how long I had been gone for to a surprise I was only gone for about 10 minuets. After this I sat back and thought what I had just experienced. The next day I fell reborn and wanted to make change straight away. That week I took my last blast of H and started my cold turkey at home. Still using ketamine I completed my cold turkey and have not used Opiates since (519 days clean) I am still using ketamine but ATM am not dependent on k and am using every 2-3 months. I am 100% convinced that DMT trip help me put things into perspective and gave my a edge in battling withdraw sickness. Though this help me Meany other of my friends that are using have also tried DMT and still continued to use after. Rehab may help some people but in my case they had no affect what so ever. I think more money should be invested into rehab and sober living as ATM they seem to be failing most people !

 

[mabzie55]

If you are committed to getting clean, yes.

If you are not, no.

It's not a miracle center, but a tool for someone who really wants to quit.

 

[herbavore]

^+100

Rehab Programs are tools--nothing more. You have to put what you get out of them to use. Learning to use what is useful to you towards achieving your goals and discarding the rest without fanfare is a very useful skill to develop. A lot of times I see people throw out everything because they don't agree with one thing or they see things in very black and white terms as either failures or successes. Life and progress and change are rarely that straightforward or tidy.

I think the hardest thing in the world is finding a source of compassion for yourself within is truly the biggest challenge. You have to believe in yourself and your self worth and that can be daunting when you are in a self-destructive spiral. Good luck with your journey.

 

[Benwise]

Is she willing to go but not willing to stay? If so, it probably gets the best of her once she checks in. Send her out of state, give her clothes and her phone, no wallet money etc. If she leaves, cool, she's put of state and has no clue where the fuck she is. If she stays, you fly back out and pick her up and take her home. After she's home, send her back out to a halfway house.

 

[DrinksWithEvil]

I've been to nine rehabs 3 salvation army's and 6 others

30 day programs don't work

Rehab is basically a stepping stone

I eventually had to get on mmt


Salvation is the best rehabs I've been to better than 30k dollar rehabs

 

[fizzymk]

I've been to nine rehabs 3 salvation army's and 6 others

30 day programs don't work

Rehab is basically a stepping stone

I eventually had to get on mmt


Salvation is the best rehabs I've been to better than 30k dollar rehabs

My last rehab was Salvation army in my area, I went in on a friday night, spent the weekend there, but by sunday evening, I was chipping bad, and manipulated my dad to come get me, I told him if I spent the entire 6 months here, my car would be repossessed, loose my job, my place to stay, etc. But really, I was just wanting to get out and go cop, which I did the same day, this was about week ago, been using every other day since.

It was a good rehab, but no medical detox, and 6 months is a LONG time to just drop out of your life, I was worried about what I would come back to, getting a car, a new job, etc. I did meet some great people there though, nearly all of them were in there for junk, and it seems 11-12 days without using seems to be the 'magic number' in which after this, it gets somewhat easier.

The longest I have gone without using is about 3-4 days, and by the 4th day, I was in BAD shape...I really have alot of respect for people that make it thru heroin w/d...it is ONE TOUGH drug to stay away from.

Have you ever been to any of the Passages malibu type rehabs? Im just wondering what makes them different than the other types, besides being very pricey, seems they must do something different in order to justify that cost, or they just cater to celebs and rich people..??

 

[Erikmen]

Fizz, I thought you were getting off. Or taking methadone.
Anyway, I guess you´re right about being away 6 months.
That´s unrealistic. But at the same time being high on h is hell man. You´ve got to quit this shit.
Methadone normally works and it eases the craving.
The doctor establishes a certain dose that would make you feel ready and you don´t have to think about 'later'.
Do that in another step.
I feel that I have so much freedom without using. It eventually gets better, you just have to pass this first phase. You can do it using Subs or methadone.
I know you have tried it. It´s not easy but so many of us did it. Why wouldn´t you?
Think about it and remember you can not take h forever. It´s not good. How can you still have veins, I wonder.

 

[Erikmen]

I've been to nine rehabs 3 salvation army's and 6 others

30 day programs don't work

Rehab is basically a stepping stone

I eventually had to get on mmt


Salvation is the best rehabs I've been to better than 30k dollar rehabs

I have never made it through rehabs. Maybe 5 or 6 times.
I actually quit it years later, and it had to be done with methadone.

 

[wanting]

I haven't been to rehab, but I know that if it had been possible for me to get pills anytime during my first month clean I totally would have. I would have left rehab...I would have gone doctor-shopping. And I WANTED to stop. During withdrawals I arranged my home life so that my husband kept tabs on me and supported me, I gave him my phone. I didn't work for a month (yeah, that was a financial hit) and I didn't see friends for a month. I guess what I'm trying to say is what others have said: You have to be 100% committed to sobriety. But I also think that there's a part of your brain that makes it easy for you act against your own best interests. I don't know the answer for your sister, but she is lucky to have you be so caring.

 

[Smoky]

30 day programs don't work. nida actually stated this once, and that it can make life worse without a follow up plan after 30 days.

it IS just a stepping stone.