rolling very hard at 30mg? wow. the 5-mapb I have is off white and gc/ms confirmed. 80-140mg is sweet spot for most people. The 5-mapb I have definitely is psychedelic. I'm wondering if the chemical you tried was even 5-mapb? If you never got it tested how would you know I guess....
Not sure if it's better than mdma but definitely on par with mdma in my book.
Well everyone is different I guess. We all have differnt chemistry.....and no I didn't test it so I am not 100% sure it was 5mapb, but it came from a trusted source, who has never been wrong before. I can't imagine what other chemical it could of been if it wasnt 5mapb. It kinda felt like Flephedrone but was stronger and lasted longer. And the place I got it, doesnt sell Fleph so I know it wasnt Fleph.
To answer your question...It was not like I was rolling BALLS from 30 mgs, I am sure 80 mgs would be stronger, and of course I could handle it. It was a bit subtle at the lower dose, BUT I felt it stronger than I did from the pure molly I recently did. Maybe I am just burnt out on MDMA, I abused it way too much over the past 17 years. I admit back in the day I rolled MUCH harder on the MDMA than I did on the 5map B. But this time around the 5mapb beats MDMA outright in every catagory. It also doesn't seem to eat you up like MDMA does. Of course my 2 day binge was too limited of an experience to judge it, but I loved this drug. It's my new favorite. I used to like 3-mmc the best, but that is lame now compared to this stuff.
It depends on your definition of psychedelic. I dont' consider MDMA to be psychedelic AT ALL either, even though others claim it is. So, I am pretty sure we both have the same stuff and I was just taken by surprise as I went in with low expectations, as I never enjoyed 6-apb or 5-apb too much. Even the combo was a bit too trippy for me, although intense. I am very sensitive to anything psychedelic, so I would notice if this stuff was anything like tripping. It's not. It's JUST like rolling. Doesn't feel like acid at all. 6-apb on the other hand feels like it was psychedelic to me. If 5mapb felt like that, I wouldn't like it, because I dont liek to feel like I am tripping. But 5mapb is a rolling drug. I know I got the real stuff,. It's obvious by reading the other reports, and as well as the perfect track record of the company I got it from.
Next time if I ever try it again, I'll go for 100 mg's right off the rip and then do a 30 mg redose! I wonder what would happen if someone took like 400 mg's at once? probably roll NUTS lol I DONT RECOMMEND IT just saying this stuff seems very non toxic.
But try the lower dose sometime, I think you will find that you roll really good from it. Even 1 mg can be felt if you snort it. Then do the 30 mgs and you'll definitely feel it. it still lasts all night too.
80 mg is plenty but be aware that the experience on its own is not like pure MDMA, but is rather more sedating and less energetic. Be cautious of redosing to try and get to a place where 5-mapb cannot take you.
Well this is a good example of how people have different body chemistry....because I felt MORE energetic on the 5mapB than I do on the MDMA. On the MDMA, (if it's pure and not mixed with speed) I feel like just sitting back in the chair and not even moving. It's pretty sedating to me. I can dance on it but I had FAR more orge to dance on the 5mapb...that is why I was so pleasently surpised when I tried it. I went in with low expectations because of reading the reports about it being "sedating"....I dont really like being too sedated when I am rolling. I like to have energy too. The 6-apb when I tried it, was sedating and boring. So I was worried that the 5mapb might be like that. But the 5mapb for me, was not boring at all, nor was it sedating. I was dancing around a lot on it. But the buzz it gives (the euporhia) is just SO good, I love it. Everyone is different though. I am sorry to hear that SIR RON did not care for it too much. Everyone is different. If he felt how good I felt on it, he would of loved it.
I should note I DID smoke weed with it, and I rarely smoke weed anymore. That probably made a huge difference on why I rolled so good, too. And of course I consumed Alcohol as I always do when I am rolling. It makes it more intense for me as well. For some people it will cloud the roll, but for others it makes it more intense. Again, another chemisty issue I guess. I've even had times where marijuana and alcohol clouded my rolls. But it's rare for me.... usually they make them much stronger.
One month ago, I would've done so without giving it a second thought. 
