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Anyone with Clevo/Sager experience?

that's ironic since MSI is top dog at cooling with their desktop cards. the desktop versions of those cards hit mid-90s under load with air-cooling though, so it's acceptable in the sense that it won't kill anything. i guess there has to be a compromise, can't have both a cool laptop and a thin laptop, something's gotta give
 
thujone said:
that's ironic since MSI is top dog at cooling with their desktop cards. the desktop versions of those cards hit mid-90s under load with air-cooling though, so it's acceptable in the sense that it won't kill anything. i guess there has to be a compromise, can't have both a cool laptop and a thin laptop, something's gotta give
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The desktop cards shouldn't be hitting mid 90s... My 780 Ti is overclocked massively (1156 core/1900 mem when stock is 878/1750) and doesn't pass 81C... I have the ACX cooler and the fans don't even hit over 50% - my Corsair H100i is louder than my video card (which is why I let AI Suite control the fans so they're always silent or close to it on the H100i). If you have an nVidia card and you're hitting 90s, you have something seriously wrong with your airflow. AMD on the other hand... yeah.

My cards in my laptop average 80C during heavy gaming but that's with the stock vbios and automatic fan control (my fans never max out unless I force them to and the crazy noise isn't worth 2-3C unless I'm near the 93C throttle point)... Modded vbios to disable boost and force 993MHz clocks all the time will hit 93C after about 20 minutes of heavy Bioshock Infinite but the stock vbios does a great job of managing temps vs clock rate.
 
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The last few generations of nVidia cards have been at mid-90s under load and vendor heatsink design hasn't changed much, nor has power consumption. This review explains what's going on in the third para 780 Ti, looks like the real temp of the 780 Ti processors under load is nearly 90o, as measured through the PCB.
 
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The last few generations of nVidia cards have been at mid-90s under load and vendor heatsink design hasn't changed much, nor has power consumption. This review explains what's going on in the third para 780 Ti, looks like the real temp of the 780 Ti processors under load is nearly 90o, as measured through the PCB.
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nVidia's reference design blows then.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_ti_sc_acx_superclock_review,9.html

I haven't had an nVidia reference card since the 7900GT... Why? Because my reference 7900GT failed like so many others. Luckily it was an eVGA card and they bumped me to a 7950GT free of charge and since then I've had an 8800GTS, GTX 260M, and now the GTX 880M and the 780 Ti SC w/ ACX are currently in use. All of my nVidia cards have been eVGA and my laptop, the 880s I have now are Clevo and the 260s were Dell.

The 7900 that failed was my last reference cooler card after my 9800 XT and X800 GTO ATi cards plus the 7900 failed with them.
 
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evga is the top vendor likely, but they ask the price for it. shame they don't do AMD. i'm too much an asus fanboy to switch camps, i'd use my card for comparison but it tops out at a balmy 45o so that wouldn't be much help :)
 
AMD has no place in any system in any form in my mind. If it wasn't for the competition keeping Intel and nVidia at least a little bit in check with regard to prices, I'd be just fine with AMD dying entirely.
 
what do you mean? Intel might have more market share but they owe AMD a lot for what x86 has become. Who knows how long Intel might have dragged their feet on the introduction of 64-bit ISA without AMD leading the charge there. Then there's AMD's acquisition of ATI. Fast-forward to today and AMD is now the leader in APU performance, as well as the leader in GPU performance (and value). AMD also leads in value in the desktop and enterprise markets, and there's huge demand for low-cost x86 performance. The long and the short of it is that AMD has always been a glutton for punishment and has always been willing to trade away the performance crown for the privilege of being the company that carries the industry forward.
 
AMD is not the leader in GPU performance. Dual GPU solutions are not really a fair way to find the fastest single card unless you're going to compare dual card solutions which nVidia still wins in many metrics. The fastest single card crown is still held by nVidia.

I have had such terrible luck with AMD products after the Athlon 64 that I don't think I'll ever own another AMD part.

Like I said, if it wasn't for AMD forcing nVidia and Intel to remain competitive, I wouldn't care if they didn't exist anymore.

They are especially bad in laptops where they have an astronomical failure rate compared to the nVidia parts that are faster although both the M290X and the 880M are blast furnaces...
 
my point wasn't that AMD would make you happier, just that there are applications where AMD shines brighter. For example, when I bought my Phenom II for $140, the only Intel chips that were superior in video encoding were Extreme Edition Core chips ($500-$1000). Today, the newer FX-8350 ($200) goes toe-to-toe with the i7 3770K ($360) at that task. Even to people uninterested in encoding, the performance/price of AMD remains extremely appealing. It's safe to say the performance/price metric is the only thing keeping most x86 enthusiasts from just buying the top-performing chip 5960X ($1000) and calling it a day.
 
Dudes did you hear they are releasing 980m and its 50 percent better than 880m in synthetic benchmarks and 40 in real world use .
"the newer FX-8350 ($200) goes toe-to-toe with the i7 3770K ($360)" Dude just no.....no aint even close even if all core performance is close single core performance amd 1525-intel 2090 and even amd fx 9590 is far behind on his mighty 5ghz 1721 as for intel i7 4790k 2534 ,amd cores are actually half core hybrids so don't even come close to intel .
P.S: I'm considering buying amd r9 295x2 when its gets a little cheaper cause i hear MANTLE do wonders in the games it can be used , also 780 ti has to small frame buffer 3gb and sli is not helping it so best case scenario is 295x2 8gb still crossfire is not as compatible as sli i hear but 8gig and mantle(just researched it ,it only helps low end cpu systems selling ,like i7 5960x wont benefit at all of mantle in other words mantle was made for weak end amd cpus)
 
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I did hear about 980M and will be harassing Sager about getting them. The 880M cards are busted. I've already had them replaced once and the new ones have the same throttling and heat issues of the old one. 125+W TDP is just too much for laptop cooling systems.
 
Well my machine is not overclocked at the moment because I was using a video bios hack that isn't compatible with XTU. If I fire up the laptop today I'll run it for you.
 
Hi. I bought Clevo laptop (Nexoc branded M5790U if I can recall) in early 2007 and its still working as a charm. GPU is the only part that has broken. This has nvidia 7950 gtx go and it broke down when there was few days left of 3 years warranty. They changed it for free even after the warranty had ended (laptop got stuck in mail, as I had to send it back to Germany).

Its still fast enough and during the time I have had it, I must have bought four smaller laptops which all have died. It was very expensive but also very good quality.

Thinking of buying another Clevo in the future.
 
the real specs of 980m are out
New driver BioShock Infinite

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[TD="colspan: 4"]90.78, 13.93, 172.50, Overall[/TD]
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crazy_dude said:
the real specs of 980 are out
New driver BioShock Infinite

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[TD="colspan: 4"]90.78, 13.93, 172.50, Overall[/TD]
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980 is pointless for me since I have a 780 Ti but the mobile cards are based off of desktop 970 which is extremely exciting.

I emailed xotic today because my video cards are acting up again. They are getting with Sager to see if I can swap to 780M cards. They're technically considered a downgrade but 780M cards overclock like beasts and output much less heat so I should be able to get the performance I should be getting out of my 880M cards with much less heat output. Worst case scenario they make me get another pair of 880M and then they fail and I end up with the 970M.
 
This is supposed to be 980m score.
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Dude i'm thinking of buying a new ssd my current one is quite shitty ,any thought ,i think ill go for evo 840 or evo 840 pro 240gb ?
 
I don't like Samsung SSDs personally so I'm the wrong person to ask.

I got word today that my 9377 will have an official bios update to support the new 9xx series cards which means that one way or another I'm getting either a pair of 970M or 980M. It's just a matter of them letting me know when I can send the machine in for the upgrade.

Rumor is the launch is between first and second week of October.
 
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I don't like Samsung SSDs personally so I'm the wrong person to ask.

I got word today that my 9377 will have an official bios update to support the new 9xx series cards which means that one way or another I'm getting either a pair of 970M or 980M. It's just a matter of them letting me know when I can send the machine in for the upgrade.

Rumor is the launch is between first and second week of October.
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Awesome dude ,when you get em post some benchmarks .
 
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