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And vinegar - start introducing vinegar into your diet

Professor Matt Cooper
So the most important thing is to have a balanced diet and lots of high fibre. But we've also shown that with a lot of the studies we're doing in animals now that supplementing the diet by giving vinegar can actually stop things like asthma.

NARRATION
Treating asthma with vinegar? It seems remarkable. Unless of course you're into alternative health.

Dr Graham Phillips
The idea of using vinegar medicinally has been around for centuries.

Professor Matt Cooper
Oh, thousands of years, back to the Egyptian times, the Greek times. The beneficial effects of vinegars in society have been known for a long time. Even Italians - a lot of vinegar on salads, a lot of vinaigrette - they have very, very low incidences of inflammatory disease.

NARRATION
In fact, even the research on eating a good diet has an air of ancient wisdom about it.

Professor Charles Mackay
Hippocrates said 'Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food.' And we agree with that entirely.

NARRATION
The reason vinegar could be a medicine is because it contains acetate - that molecule we met in the first episode, the very one our good bacteria make.

Professor Matt Cooper
So we now know that acetate, which is very small and can get all around the body, can stop the immune system from overreacting.
 
So you're saying that by arresting those journalists in McDonalds, the army, er - I mean police - were doing those guys a favour?
Interesting slant.
 
Are you saying you think it is worth killing over?

bit pattern, interesting stuff. I go through 12 oz of raw ACV every few days.
 
I totally agree.
Fight fire with fire.

Also, legaliseall, I know a lot more about America than you; I just don't live there.
I am not going to explain this any further, because you're a waste of time. But trust me, I live in Australia, but that does not mean my knowledge of the world (or connection with people very close to me) aren't American residents, dual citizens or American born.

You're out of your element, sonny Jim.
How on earth would you know that you know more americans then me. Right there your just acting like a little kid and why would i take that serious. "i know more people then you." Ok sounds real good.
 
Maybe because through economic manipulation and natural resource exploitation the US had/has(?) risen to the top, socio-economically, to the point that other cultures, especially western ones, sometimes get confused, and think that the US actually did something right to get where it is. Some policy makers know what true direction many of these policies go in, and use the confusion to further manipulate their naive colleagues and public into mimicking the US in order to benefit their personal beliefs. So, the USs' business has become the business of everyone now that its hands are mixed in nearly everything, and positive/negative things with or without propaganda are being spewed out worldwide.

The US is no longer (relative to other collective entities) at the top, but not everyone has gotten the point yet, and people see this kind of shit (para-militarization), and use it as justification to treat their own people in a similar manner. I mean if the US does it, it must be ok right? From the supposed 'freest' country on earth I would expect far more, and it is worrisome that some western countries (e.g. Australia and England) are following blindly, and other countries are still integrating other failed US policies although they are against the best interests of their people.

So how about you stop being such an ass, and fucking admit to the police state within which you live that you are so proud of. Compare your country to other developed countries, excluding Australia or England. (aka putting your nose where it doesn't belong? your nose must hate you for your deprivations) Who nose what you might find? Maybe if you would stick your nose into other people business a little more often you would realize your business involves defending a cardboard box. People are sticking their noses where they, 'don't belong', because perhaps your stink is becoming oppressive. Perspective can be a beautiful thing.

I think your the only one making yourself look like an ass cause if you look at my other posts here i state that im not a patriot in anyway and i think the u.s. is full of problems. Most of the time when i talk about cops i say pigs so i definitely realize the military part of the cops shit. So this entire post is wrong. My problem is with batman and robin running around just looking for fights by basing america. You can talk shit about america that's fine, but i don't think they have the right to talk so much shit cause they don't live here. And the only response they give me is the grammar shit and im out of their league. What league is this. Current events on a drugs forum site? Ok. Big time shit. Ya they think their informed but all news is biased or filtered in some way so the fact they can comment on every facet of it including history, give me a break. So ya get your head out your ass and see what my actual views are before you paint me as some patriot.
 
Are you saying you think it is worth killing over?

Worth killing piggies over yes. They wouldn't think twice about shooting us down like dogs so why should we not do the same thing to them? And this is only going to get worse the further America declines so your going to see alot more cases like Ferguson in the near future.
 
I disagree. And I honestly think that you have a dangerous mentality that would involve other people getting killed unnecessarily, and I would consider you the enemy before I would consider public servants the enemy.

A better solution is to have them recorded at all times. Install city cameras that intelligently watch cop cars for investigation purposes, and that are eyes the sky. Drones can be used for this as well. Have a cop car release one each time it begins interaction with a person. It will watch the entire thing. Require dash cams and omnidirectional cameras on police vehicles. Have them wear wearable cameras. Just make the entire process completely transparent. This is the way forward.

Better stun technologies should be worked on as well.
 
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The 'Communist Agitators' Blamed for Inciting Unrest in Ferguson

BY BRIAN RIES 22 HOURS AGO

At a few minutes after 9 p.m. last Wednesday night in Ferguson, Missouri, a crowd of protesters, led by a self-proclaimed communist with a bullhorn, faced off against a line of St. Louis County police.

The man, who was white and appeared to be in his late-50's, wore a black T-shirt that displayed the words "the system has no future for the youth, the revolution does," and sang a song about revolution.

”Won't be no police bru-tal-ity, when the revolution comes. Won’t be no mass incarcer-ation, when the revolution comes,” he sang.

"They want to be revolutionaries, anti-capitalists preaching change for the United States. But they are, for now, merely "outsiders" accused of doing more harm than good on the front lines of the protests in Ferguson. "

...

read more

http://mashable.com/2014/08/21/ferguson-agitators/
 
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The 'Communist Agitators' Blamed for Inciting Unrest in Ferguson

BY BRIAN RIES 22 HOURS AGO

At a few minutes after 9 p.m. last Wednesday night in Ferguson, Missouri, a crowd of protesters, led by a self-proclaimed communist with a bullhorn, faced off against a line of St. Louis County police.

The man, who was white and appeared to be in his late-50's, wore a black T-shirt that displayed the words "the system has no future for the youth, the revolution does," and sang a song about revolution.

”Won't be no police bru-tal-ity, when the revolution comes. Won’t be no mass incarcer-ation, when the revolution comes,” he sang.

"They want to be revolutionaries, anti-capitalists preaching change for the United States. But they are, for now, merely "outsiders" accused of doing more harm than good on the front lines of the protests in Ferguson. "

...

read more

http://mashable.com/2014/08/21/ferguson-agitators/

How is that agitation? If they had tossed Molotov's at the cops and set the piggies on fire yes that would be agitation. Also anti-Capitalist does not equal Communist.

Also you are a reactionary so i would expect you to side with state forces. You can't have police oversight when the system is geared towards protecting the police.
 
Look ma, he called me a reactionary and he didnt even read the article.
 
Eh... Okay. I'm conservative on some things. Liberal on others. I'm not a communist.
 
From the article I posted that p a read and he said it was only the blog saying that they were communists

"Its members say they are communists, fighting for an anti-capitalist ideology built on the beliefs of Karl Marx and Mao Zedong. They want to be revolutionaries, anti-capitalists preaching change for the United States. But they are, for now, merely "outsiders" accused of doing more harm than good on the front lines of the protests in Ferguson. Its leaders are technically outsiders, too, hailing from San Francisco and Brooklyn, not Missouri."

http://mashable.com/2014/08/21/ferguson-agitators/
 
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This group in Ferguson is the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP), who really has no respect even within the revolutionary socialist community. It's been called a cult and is a stubborn and deeply misguided Maoist organization. It's leader, Bob Avakian has been a laughing stock among leftists for decades. Of course this is the group that makes headlines :|
 
^^ Did you hear the one about the Ferguson cops that beat a man so badly that when he bled on their uniforms he was charged with vandalising state property? Or the police chief who ordered his officers to go out and arrest black shoppers - making comments like "let's have a black day" and "let's add some colour to the jail cells?" :\
 
I want to start out by saying that obviously Powell was acting in a manner that was very threatening to these Police, I would question why two Police officers who were attending a scene that the call was there's a crazy guy with a knife couldn't have tazers, batons and pepper spray ready

He was roughly 6 or 7 feet from the officer and chose to start coming towards him after repeatedly being asked to drop the knife. Anyone in moderately good shape can cover that distance in under a second. A tazer is good and fine but it's a one shot deal meaning that if the officer misses the violent suspect he's likely getting stabbed at least in this incident.

Some people might question why they should take the risk, and I suppose that is a fair enough point of view, I would argue that Police took an oath to protect and serve and sometimes it is in their job description to risk their lives to try and save a life, even if that life might not be worth saving to a lot of people. I would be willing to bet that Mr Powell was mentally ill, and while that does not excuse his actions, I still think it is unfortunate this man is now dead.

The police took an oath to protect and serve but not to let violent criminals assault them or worse. I agree that it's unfortunate the man is dead, but he left the officer with no other option IMO. Unfortunately mental illness, background, etc. doesn't hold any weight when the officer's life is at risk

What I really, really, really cannot fathom, however, is how it could be described as neccessary or fair to fire three shots into a man who is laying in the ground having been just been shot six times. I don't give a fuck if he was rolling toward an officer or attempting to sit up, at this point he was a threat to absolutely nobody. Even if one were to argue that further force was necessary, it would be impossible to argue the Police could not have effectively employed non lethal weapons at the time he was on the floor with six bullets in his body.

Officers are trained to shoot to stop the threat. Like I think I already said in this thread a single shot is not going to bring most people down unless it's to a vital area. Some people that are shot don't even realize it until sometime later. Either way just because they shot him doesn't mean they know he's incapacitated.

I think this paints a picture of the attitude of the Police in the United States, and that is basically, fuck with us and you are dead.

Yeah, it's not exactly smart to try to overpower the police. Rocket science, I know. :\
 
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