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yeah, they refer me to their in-house psychologists, all they wanna do is give me zoloft. it helps, but i just dont want to be addicted to it.

you're completely right. it reminds me of It's Always Sunny, when Charlie describes himself as a full-on rapist to his date, as opposed to a philanthropist
 
so my girlfriend and I just broke up :/ you guys will probably be seein a lot more of me, she would always take the computer away from me when I got on BL thats how much she hated me being on here for some reason. She's really no good for me though tbh. She has a mental addiction to opiates and benzos, but a physical addiction to neither, but honestly its just a timebomb before shes at junkie level :(

I've spent way too much money and wasted too much time on her. I guess now I gotta cut my hair, its really long and I didn't care because I had a girlfriend who liked it. I could also dread it but I don't wanna be a walking epitome of a stoner.
 
^Hey man, I am sorry to hear about that :( Break-ups are very difficult. But often act as catalysts for very interesting periods of time. Best thing to do is embrace it, as much as you can.

<3

I have heard good things about this combo! However, once I took 4-aco-dipt in the tail end of a 4-FA roll, just as the sun was rising, what resulted in a not so nice trip...So for this combo, when should I take each drug? I was considering taking both at the same time, since 4-ho-met will probably start to work first. Or is it better to take the tryptamine first?

Late reply, but I took a 'normal' 4-FA dose (100mg) and a 'normal' 4-Ho-MET dose (20mg is enough for me) at the same time. I redosed on both, same dose of 4-FA and 10mg of 4-Ho-MET after about 4 hours. Bear in mind I am only using psychedelics in low doses, so you may require more... Personally, I've never spent a lot of time figuring out the best order of administration of psychedelics and others in combo, but I did feel the 4-Ho-MET a fair bit before the 4-FA. But 4-Ho-MET seems to kick in really quickly for me; I get alerts within 20mins. In future, I may take the amphetamine first. It was a nice combo indeed :)

Earth is awesome, I love doom/drone metal. I was in a melodic drone metal band called TREE for like 2 years.

fwiw My favorite drone album to this day is Altar by Sunn 0))) and Boris (my favorite part in particular is the soul crushing dual guitar solo at the end of etna)

Yeah, Sunn0))) are great; I saw them live in Melbourne and it was completely fucking insane- the volume!!! Actually quite anxiety inducing.... I'd be curious to hear some of your drone project if you have soundcloud or whatever...But I don't dig that much drone/doom TBH; I don't hear much doom in a lot of it, and I fear it can be an excuse to create long and tedious tunes. I rather gentler drone ambient and more aciddy doom....:)

Have you heard the Boris and Merzbow album? Definitely worth a listen even though I can't stand noise.
 
By the way, would watching the movie 'what dreams may come' now be a bit disturbing?
 
Oh, how could I forget about the analrapist? Arrested Development is one of my all time favorite shows, I have actually been watching it through again recently. I have yet to be able to make it any sort of way through the 4th season though, is it even worth it? The first time I tried to watch the first episode of the fourth season, I was on L and doing a lot of K that night, and like, when I saw Seth Rogen and shit, I couldn't take it. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. Not to mention that I was CONVINCED they had some other lady playing the other Lucille, either that or just that the actress playing her wasn't looking too good.

so my girlfriend and I just broke up :/ you guys will probably be seein a lot more of me, she would always take the computer away from me when I got on BL thats how much she hated me being on here for some reason. She's really no good for me though tbh. She has a mental addiction to opiates and benzos, but a physical addiction to neither, but honestly its just a timebomb before shes at junkie level :(

I've spent way too much money and wasted too much time on her. I guess now I gotta cut my hair, its really long and I didn't care because I had a girlfriend who liked it. I could also dread it but I don't wanna be a walking epitome of a stoner.

I'm sorry to hear about your break up man, it is a really tough thing to get through. Just remember, everything that happens to you is the best possible thing that can happen to you. The universe is good at what it does, otherwise it wouldn't exist. Also, if she's starting to be a junkie, it's definitely better for you in the long term to stay away from that. I would hate for something to happen to you, SONN. You can always feel free to PM me if you ever need someone to talk to, or just fucking vent to. Hit me up anytime :) On the bright side, I'm glad we'll be seeing more of you :)
 
so my girlfriend and I just broke up :/ you guys will probably be seein a lot more of me, she would always take the computer away from me when I got on BL thats how much she hated me being on here for some reason. She's really no good for me though tbh. She has a mental addiction to opiates and benzos, but a physical addiction to neither, but honestly its just a timebomb before shes at junkie level :(

I've spent way too much money and wasted too much time on her. I guess now I gotta cut my hair, its really long and I didn't care because I had a girlfriend who liked it. I could also dread it but I don't wanna be a walking epitome of a stoner.

I'm sorry man, that's rough, I certainly know that. :\ But it sounds like a blessing in disguise, and also sounds like you realize that. It's still difficult, no doubt. But I bet in a couple of weeks at most you'll be feeling better than you have in quite some time. :) My ex also hated Bluelight, she would get annoyed at first when I'd be on here and then later on she'd get mad, and forbade me to come here. One time late at night I came back to check in and she came down and my computer froze so she saw it (weird timing right?), and she slapped me straight across the face, hard, and got all bent out of shape like I had deeply betrayed her. I tried to explain that I have good friends on here and I just wanted to communicate with them but to no avail. I think it's a bad sign when your significant other tries to dictate your actions like that. I mean it's one thing to get involved in interrupting an addiction or something, or suggest you don't do something reckless, but if you care about Bluelight she has no right to forbid you to come on here, or even really to get mad at you for it. People should respect one anothers' decisions and interests, most especially when they're together.

I bet soon you'll be feeling so free. :)

Late reply, but I took a 'normal' 4-FA dose (100mg) and a 'normal' 4-Ho-MET dose (20mg is enough for me) at the same time. I redosed on both, same dose of 4-FA and 10mg of 4-Ho-MET after about 4 hours. Bear in mind I am only using psychedelics in low doses, so you may require more... Personally, I've never spent a lot of time figuring out the best order of administration of psychedelics and others in combo, but I did feel the 4-Ho-MET a fair bit before the 4-FA. But 4-Ho-MET seems to kick in really quickly for me; I get alerts within 20mins. In future, I may take the amphetamine first. It was a nice combo indeed :)

When I had such a wonderful reaction to the combo, I had taken the 4-FA an then after maybe 45 minutes to an hour I took a booster plus 4-HO-MET (I did all this rectally which may have made a significant difference). I also redosed a boost of both simultaneously after like 2 hours. It was a glorious combo, it was like psychedelic MDMA in terms of euphoria and empathy, maybe a bit less empathy but a much greater level of mental activity. I enjoyed it tremendously but it did feel taxing.

By the way, would watching the movie 'what dreams may come' now be a bit disturbing?

I may do that tonight if I have time. Amazing movie. The movie itself is at times a bit disturbing actually but I think given recent unfortunate events it would be very appropriate. Also uplifting. It's probably his most beautiful and hopeful movie, though first it goes pretty low.
 
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How was the comedown on this combo? Did you redose to avoid coming down of the 4-FA, while still tripping on 4-HO-MET?
People report 4-fa as having a very smooth comedown, but that hasnt been my experience...
 
Yeah I dislike 4-FA's comedown. The comedown from the combo was better though, I actually find that 4-HO-MET (in particular, not sure about others as that's the tryptamine I have had access to for a while) really combines with empathogens well, it seems to buffer the negative effects all around and make the experience "fuller" and even more pleasurable.

The only thing that happened, which may have been related to dosage, or the combo itself, or neither (unrelated), was that after a couple of hours I began getting a weird stomach pain. At first it felt like gas, just a bit annoying but it didn't detract from the experience. At some point, absorbed in music and thoughts of love and other emotions and their meanings, I realized that the pain was pretty severe. It felt like bad gas/indigestion. I started to break out into a cold sweat from the pain and it felt better only when I stretched out my abs, but didn't disappear, just felt a bit better. It progressed even further... eventually I went to lay down in my bed, sweating quite profusely and feeling weak and cold. I didn't think to take my temperature unfortunately. It felt like my stomach was on fire, the whole thing, just absolutely hot and flaming. It was a really weird pain and I started to get worried that something bad was happening to me. Mentally and emotionally I was fine but I was a bit scared and definitely was eventually focusing primarily on the pain rather than the positive effects. It stayed at that level for quite some time, definitely hours, and then slowly faded away. I was able to fall asleep some hours later, and the next morning I felt perfectly fine. It did give me pause to try it again though. However I have not heard of anyone else describing this reaction (though I haven't heard many reports of it... in fact I have only heard others say they've heard good things, not read accounts for myself; for all I know they just heard it from me). I've combined 4-HO-MET with methylone and with 6-APB as well, to good effect without any alarming side effects. I feel like it was a one-off thing and I don't really like 4-FA too much anymore so I may never try it again, but I think if someone gave me some 4-FA I'd probably give it a shot again, it was so good that I think it would be worth the chance of experiencing that pain again (though if I did I'd never try it again).

Seriously though, my brain felt absolutely FLOODED with serotonin/euphoria. My pupils were as big as I've ever seen them, just pure black. I was breathing in gasps at times because the feeling was so intense and pleasurable. I also went on a mental voyage whose subject matter was all centered around love and the duality of emotions - love/hate, anxiety/joy, etc. It was quite revealing though I didn't write anything down (couldn't be bothered to interrupt my journey) so I don't remember a lot of it anymore. I should write a report with what I can remember.

I'm trying to remember my dosages... I think I took 80mg of 4-FA rectally to start, then added 40mg FA + 15mg of 4-HO-MET, then my redose was probably 12-15mg of 4-HO-MET with maybe 30-40mg of 4-FA. All rectal. Taking that much 4-FA by itself makes me feel like shit the next day but I really did feel fine the next day with this combo.

Oh, and my reason for the redose was simply because I wanted to maintain the state, I felt it slipping a bit, getting weaker, and I wasn't ready for it to get weaker. The redose wasn't quite as pure as the initial hit (unsurprisingly), but it did ramp it back up to close to the same level. Also I only got the weird pain post-redose, though that doesn't necessarily tell us anything.
 
Yeah I dislike 4-FA's comedown. The comedown from the combo was better though, I actually find that 4-HO-MET (in particular, not sure about others as that's the tryptamine I have had access to for a while) really combines with empathogens well, it seems to buffer the negative effects all around and make the experience "fuller" and even more pleasurable.

The only thing that happened, which may have been related to dosage, or the combo itself, or neither (unrelated), was that after a couple of hours I began getting a weird stomach pain. At first it felt like gas, just a bit annoying but it didn't detract from the experience. At some point, absorbed in music and thoughts of love and other emotions and their meanings, I realized that the pain was pretty severe. It felt like bad gas/indigestion. I started to break out into a cold sweat from the pain and it felt better only when I stretched out my abs, but didn't disappear, just felt a bit better. It progressed even further... eventually I went to lay down in my bed, sweating quite profusely and feeling weak and cold. I didn't think to take my temperature unfortunately. It felt like my stomach was on fire, the whole thing, just absolutely hot and flaming. It was a really weird pain and I started to get worried that something bad was happening to me. Mentally and emotionally I was fine but I was a bit scared and definitely was eventually focusing primarily on the pain rather than the positive effects. It stayed at that level for quite some time, definitely hours, and then slowly faded away. I was able to fall asleep some hours later, and the next morning I felt perfectly fine. It did give me pause to try it again though. However I have not heard of anyone else describing this reaction (though I haven't heard many reports of it... in fact I have only heard others say they've heard good things, not read accounts for myself; for all I know they just heard it from me). I've combined 4-HO-MET with methylone and with 6-APB as well, to good effect without any alarming side effects. I feel like it was a one-off thing and I don't really like 4-FA too much anymore so I may never try it again, but I think if someone gave me some 4-FA I'd probably give it a shot again, it was so good that I think it would be worth the chance of experiencing that pain again (though if I did I'd never try it again).

Seriously though, my brain felt absolutely FLOODED with serotonin/euphoria. My pupils were as big as I've ever seen them, just pure black. I was breathing in gasps at times because the feeling was so intense and pleasurable. I also went on a mental voyage whose subject matter was all centered around love and the duality of emotions - love/hate, anxiety/joy, etc. It was quite revealing though I didn't write anything down (couldn't be bothered to interrupt my journey) so I don't remember a lot of it anymore. I should write a report with what I can remember.

I'm trying to remember my dosages... I think I took 80mg of 4-FA rectally to start, then added 40mg FA + 15mg of 4-HO-MET, then my redose was probably 12-15mg of 4-HO-MET with maybe 30-40mg of 4-FA. All rectal. Taking that much 4-FA by itself makes me feel like shit the next day but I really did feel fine the next day with this combo.

Oh, and my reason for the redose was simply because I wanted to maintain the state, I felt it slipping a bit, getting weaker, and I wasn't ready for it to get weaker. The redose wasn't quite as pure as the initial hit (unsurprisingly), but it did ramp it back up to close to the same level. Also I only got the weird pain post-redose, though that doesn't necessarily tell us anything.


Ouch! That sounds awful!
Actually, i think someone else here on bl reported having stomach pains on 4-ho-met... But its strange that only some people have that, since I never had any physical discomfort because of it.

Almost every emphatogenic drug gives me a bad comedown, almost every time (no comedown on 5-apb, though I only tried it once), and sometimes I ask myself why I keep taking them... Sometimes the cons are just not worth the pros. Maybe if I space out the rolls a little bit more (maybe 6 months) I could avoid comedowns? Hope so...
 
Yeah with just 4-HO-MET I always feel great, I've never had anything resembling an adverse reaction to it. I've also combined it with 2C-B, mescaline, DOC and MXE (not at the same time), and as I mentioned, 6-APB and methylone. No problems, ever.

I get comedowns from some empathogens/entactogens... 4-FA, the first time I did 6-APB (but strangely no other times) and MDMA for sure. Never had one at all from methylone except one time I went through 3 grams in 3 days. :|
 
^I can't imagine binging on methylone. The first dose was always lovely but redosing even once would always cause the worst heart palipations I've ever experienced. It may have had something to do with the large volume of mephadrone I was using around the same time. Fuck I miss my mephedrone:(, it is tied with mxe as the most psychologically addictive substances I've come across.
 
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I was in a partial to complete benzo blackout too, I redosed the first couple of times (1 redose feels fine to me on methylone, of course not as good as the first one but it doesn't hurt me either). After that I took a tiny bit of phenazepam (I received 100mg with the methylone), and then a bit more, and another redose... well things got hazy after that. I remember bits and pieces of the next 3 days. When I finally came down the bag of phenazepam was missing (never found it either so who knows if I lost it or took it all...) and all the methylone was gone. :\

OH! And speaking of mephedrone, I just now remembered for the first time that I had also taken a gram of mephedrone over those 3 days which I received along with the other two things. I was paying for that for at least a week and a half, I felt so low afterwards. Benzos are fucked, I'm sure I would abused the stimulants anyway but I certainly wouldn't have taken 3 grams of methylone and 1 gram of mephedrone in 3 days. 8)
 
Yeah stimulants and benzos go together all too well. I've been tapering off of a hefty etizolam dependency for a couple years and have been knocked back to square one by stimulant abuse at least a dozen times. Benzos always cancel out the negative side effects of the stim, allowing me to keep using until its I run out.
 
Just bought a new car! Got a pretty sweet deal on it too. Recently someone totaled my much-loved 1994 Camry coupe, and I have been pretty depressed without a car these past couple of weeks. However, today I was able to get a 1994 Corolla with one owner who bought it with 34 miles on the odometer. She never smoked, and didn't let people smoke in her car, just like me. Now, it has 176,115 miles on it, has still only had that one owner, who was a non-smoker (like me), and I picked it up today for a damn good deal of $1,200. Sounds and runs great, didn't hear a single knock or stutter when it started. I'm so excited :) I have to wait a little while to get hand controls installed, because I can't drive with my feet. But I'll be back on the road before long! No accident is gonna keep me down :)
 
Nice deal man, congrats! That's a lot of miles but it's a Japanese car and they're built to last (I've only ever had Acuras which are also Japanese). If you take care of it it should still last you quite a while. Especially if you don't put miles on it fast.
 
Nice deal man, congrats! That's a lot of miles but it's a Japanese car and they're built to last (I've only ever had Acuras which are also Japanese). If you take care of it it should still last you quite a while. Especially if you don't put miles on it fast.

For sure, I bought my Camry at 196k and even then knew it would last a while. I was prepared to drive it into the ground, haha. Unfortunately, it was totaled a few weeks ago, but I am pretty happy with this Corolla. For a disabled, unemployed 21 year old with a $2000 budget (savings), I feel pretty damn accomplished. :) I wanted to open a beer but I have a feeling that with the two xanax bars I've already thrown back, even just one beer might be a little too much hehe

Edit: especially considering I almost bought a 97 Accord with it's check engine light on for $1300 the other day, it just goes to show, never take the first one they show ya!
 
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