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If you could only take 1 drug for the rest of your life what would it be?

Place I went to the bouncers only gave a shit about drugs that were also being sold by the inhouse dealers. If they saw you with a wrap or whatever they'd ask what it was and if you said MDMA you were fukked but if you said speed you were welcome to it and they just walked away. Weed they didn't give even the tiniest toss about. Oddly enough they never did stop the conga line of young chaps who walked back and forth talking to themselves... they were saying summat like "Emdee emay, ket, emdee emay, ket". This was Bristol mind you so ...
 
Charlie clearly wants to do that job PTCH, he's fucking loving it.

Got it confiscated and kicked out a few times.. then when it became illegal they called the police haha. massive overreaction, was out for mates birthday and it ruined the night, was buzzing my tits off & didnt give too much of a shit at the time, was nutted, i did after though. gurning all night in a cell listening to angry drunks shout and kick the doors

Would they always call the police in that kind of situation? I would completely freak out tbh, absolutely shit myself, would probably kill any chance of me ever becoming a lawyer right there. Assuming you'd get some kind of record in that case? Especially with coke rather than meph. Ugh, hard to even think about. As much as being in a cell would be a novel life experience it's one I think I'll try to avoid.

I've never had any problems with bouncers/doors, anything like that, might be because I mainly go to student nights though. Can never even find dealers most of the time, or people on drugs even so it's clearly not something they'd be looking out for as much.
 
If you get caught the bag of drugs gets thrown away if possible and you try your best to leave the club without being violent. No-one I know has ever had anything worse than losing their drugs and getting flung out/barred unless they've been caught dealing (eg, with a bag of 50 pills).

This. Only time I know of police being called was when there was a dispute between dealers and one stabbed the other one. Can't steal a stab wound and sell it on so 999 it was.
 
If you get caught the bag of drugs gets thrown away if possible and you try your best to leave the club without being violent. No-one I know has ever had anything worse than losing their drugs and getting flung out/barred unless they've been caught dealing (eg, with a bag of 50 pills).

Thats always been the case before and after for me, got along well with the bouncers, & never cause any trouble or anything, rarely went to that place shoulda been more careful, was a disaster lol, i think the guy was some anti drugs tosspot and probably had enough of all the meph around if i recall, making an example of me

I would completely freak out tbh, absolutely shit myself, would probably kill any chance of me ever becoming a lawyer right there. Assuming you'd get some kind of record in that case? Especially with coke rather than meph. Ugh, hard to even think about. As much as being in a cell would be a novel life experience it's one I think I'll try to avoid.

I've never had any problems with bouncers/doors, anything like that, might be because I mainly go to student nights though. Can never even find dealers most of the time, or people on drugs even so it's clearly not something they'd be looking out for as much.

Yeah got a record, and fined around £200, used to piss me off just thinking about it. all for half a gram. was decent stuff as well. served me right for not hiding it properly
 
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Thats always been the case before and after for me, got along well with the bouncers, & never cause any trouble or anything, rarely went to that place shoulda been more careful, was a disaster lol, i think the guy was some anti drugs tosspot and probably had enough of all the meph around if i recall, making an example of me

Yeah got a record, and fined around £200, used to piss me off just thinking about it. all for half a gram. was decent stuff as well. served me right for not hiding it properly

Naughty boy ;) Worst part is losing the drugs tbh. Seriously how ridiculous though, pisses me off that people get in trouble like that for petty shit like having a tiny amount of drugs on them whereas people can generally act like complete tits on alcohol with no consequences at all.
 
Yea spot on summer, exactly, i said pretty much the same thing to them. pretty much said.. what a joke this is, the social acceptance of alcohol & the encouragement of getting hammered when its one of the most harmful substances, drunken people out fighting, beating people up.. pubs are drug dealers... the irony of this reaction to me with a small amount of something else on me for personal use, calling the police and pretty much wasting their time on somebody doing no harm, causing no trouble, out for a good night and never causes trouble, when theres far more concerning things going on, backward priories. blah blah

words to that effect.. was calm-ish didnt swear much for once lol, then mates came over and saw what was going on and caused a bit of a fuss for said reason,

In hindsight 2011 was probably one of the worst.. and best years of my life. for various reasons
 
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Naughty boy ;) Worst part is losing the drugs tbh.

You have no idea :|

Only time I ever spent in court was either petty theft (shoplifting) charges which nobody much gives a toss about or for the (personal quantities of) the drugs that particular behaviour helped to fund. Nobody gives a shit about a fine. Having that bag or two o' scag or that rock or so you've spent all day hustling up the money for taken off you and replaced (if you're lucky) by a couple DHC pills and a shitty pigpen meal is the true punishment.

Of course when you're finally released even utterly non-violent under any circumstances junkies like myself will very seriously consider swiping handbags from grannies we're so desparate and agonised but such is the shitty system :\

(to clarify, i never did swipe handbags but was within fractions of a thought of doing so on several occasion due to shit like that - this is where knowing enough dealers to more or less guarantee enough tick to last a day or so comes in... then you have to pay for that tick and your usual daily requirements.... and so the cycle continues 8))
 
When did I ever claim to have any particular claim over morality? Pretty sure that'd be never. I have regularly admitted to things I did - or in this particular case considered doing - during my addict years. We all know junkies rob stuff if/when desperate enough and we all know they go for the easiest target cos they're likely to be clucking their nads off so hardly up for taking on some big geezer to grab a wallet. It's a grubby bizniz and I think it valuable to point this out given the addicts here are mostly not representative of the majority (the vast majority as far as I can make out) or are not prepared to admit to such actions or thoughts publicly. I am no longer an addict in that way so wouldn't dream of anything like that now. Couldn't even bring myself to shoplift owt these days and that really was a daily (several times daily most days 8)) occurrence back then. The point being made is that addiction trumps personal morality when it comes down to it. Anybody saying otherwise is lying or just never been desperate enough.

EDIT: And to be specific about the incident that could have happened but never did, it wasn't a granny - that's just a stock phrase - it was a woman in her 20s in the phone box whilst I was waiting to ring around for tick. She left her purse on the metal tray thing and it was rammed full of £20s. It was a very tempting sight. I did not take it. But I most certainly did think about it for a bit.
 
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Hm, one drug for the rest of my life? I could maybe manage one per class of substances, but not just the one.

For opiates it has to be the mixed bunch of poppy alkaloid acyl esters that results from acylating a refined, cleaned up and recrystallized harvest of opium w/propionyl chloride. Fucking potent as the stench that emanates from a toilet in Gehenna after being filled with feces and vomit and left to moulder away in the heat of hells flames. Strong, fast acting when used IV (a little slower than H, but quite a bit faster than morphine sulfate) and it lasts a LONG time. That propionylated full spectrum opium alkaloid isolate has to have the longest legs of any opiate/opioid I've ever tried; to the extent that even after a bit longer than 10years ago I've been slowly (not slowly enough!, :/) building up tolerance to the big, juicy multiple-choice buffet of pain meds my doc has had me on, and as such, many opiates don't last long enough at all.

The opium isolate though...damn. 10-15mg or so was enough to hit me like a battering ram, and to keep going all day long, in fact it held me out of w/d until the day AFTER taking it in the morning, just a tiny point a little larger than the size of a match head, shot that up and got pinned to my chair with the wind knocked from my sails for a moment the rush was so intense.

Dissociatives? 3-hydroxy-PCP without a doubt, or if not available then methoxetamine.

Stimulants? I.V ethylphenidate

GABAAergic sedatives? allosteric modulators, then chlormethiazole, orthosteric agonists, I can only really comment on the one I have tried, there do not seem to be very many of them to choose from, but muscimol. Fly agaric is a strong medicine indeed, and its recreational/anxiolytic/hypnotic/dissociative-y effects are very enjoyable in their own right.

Cannabinoids, excluding weed itself? HU-210, a very, very potent full agonist at CB1Rs, active in the submilligram area, and it lasts a fucking loooooong time, all day long or into the following day without difficulty, and I found it unusually intensely psychedelic and very visual for a cannabinoid. Or perhaps CP-55,940, which was all around smooth easygoing fun stuff.

Serotonergic psychedelics? tryptamine-wise then vaped DMT without a shadow of a doubt from all those I've tried. I'd love to try IV DMT, or administered through an IV infusion. Phenethylamine/psychedelic amphetamines aren't a family I have experience with, yet, although I should be trying DOM and 2C-D, perhaps 2C-D-nBOMe, or similarly substituted benzylamines. Beta-keto-2C-B is the only one, methylenedioxy-ring-bearing entactogens excluded, that I have tried. NOT for snorting, fucking christ, never felt anything so painful to have up my nose, short only of worse pain coming from having accidentally had a blob of molten sodium metal covered in fused molten sodium hydroxide (caustic soda) go off with a bang after a tank of argon being used to protect an electrolysis cell gave out, empty, causing the Na metal to explode and shoot off through the air, only to by some tiny chance and Murphy's law, land up my right nostril, burning a temporary crater into my nasal septum that would make daniella westbrook proud , at least, before going up in flames after I blew it out of my hooter hole as fast and as hard as I could manage:P

Lol, I'm just glad that little incident didn't end up with that blob of NaOH-crusty molten sodium actually igniting, or exploding before I got it out of my nose in a fucking well hurry :/


Entactogens/empathogens aren't usually my thing, but I do really enjoy high dose insufflated AMT, n-ethyl-5-APB was nice too, although I liked the AMT more out of the two of them. 5-(N-CH3)-APB was good too, I like the fact that neither of those two 5-APB analogs possessed much in the way of stimulating properties. I credit AMT actually, with helping me largely overcome my PTSD.

Misc substances:

diethyl or diisopropyl ether, tizanidine and/or clonidine, both alpha2 adrenoreceptor agonists, and have proved to be a gift from above, in terms of dealing with, and suppresion of overloads, overstimulation, and comedowns, as well as sleep.
Valerian extract (Valeriana officianalis)..techically this contains allosteric GABAa positive modulators, and can be a sleep inducer, but that effect is relatively mild. Where Valerian really shines is when taken in high doses three quarters to one hour or so before going to bed. Then its about the most powerful and vibrant oneirogens I have ever encountered.

Nootropics? Pramiracetam, although I've high hopes for DM-235. Although I cannot afford it at the moment, galantamine, an anticholinesterase agent that was found lurking in snowdrop bulbs, a cholinesterase inhibitor with a difference, as it also activates the alpha7-type neuronal nicotinic acetylcholine receptor, increasing its nootropic effectiveness quite a bit, or it seemed to, compared with other anticholinesterases without the alpha7-NAChR agonism. IIRC this results in release of BDNF (brain-derived neurotrophic factor
 
At a quick glance that looks like a big wall of bollocks that i probably wont read. although i may. who knows. ooooooo
 
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Alcohol. That's not just because it's legal and universal - it's legal and universal because it's the most versatile and tolerable mind-altering drug about IMO.
 
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