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Anyone else had a codeine addiction?

I'd imagine most people in w/d are as keen on company as I am when in w/d - I can barely stand to be around myself at such times let alone deal with others. I can't imagine I'd get many takers - w/d tends to be quite a personal thing. I don't think many would really go in for choosing to be around anybody else. It's generally not such a pretty sight - I generally just want everything and everyone to go away for a week and leave me to get on with it.
 
I suppose we're all different, especially when it comes to this sort of thing. IM(limited)E, it definitely helps to have someone around for support and reassurance.
 
It is a very personal thing and if it helps you to have people around then it does. I know I'm just a horrible ball or irritation and frustration (leaving aside all the more obvious w/d bobz) and everything pisses me off and drives me nuts. Having said that it can be useful being around people cos you do almost tend to put a bit of a brave face on it and not get quite so self-obsessed. In my own situation I know that whenever I tried to w/d with somebody else we'd just talk each other into skipping the w/d and scoring so it was just never practical. My only real experience of being around people where there's no chance of convincing each other to score was in the detox clinic and I just spent the whole time locked away in my room mostly. Although I was insanely jealous of all the alkies with their triple digit Librium scripts so that may have had summat to do with that. In fact it did. Two bastard paracetamol every four hours just doesn't quite cut it :!
 
Shambles said:
When I first signed up for BL I was still IVing 1g of codeine 3-4x a day. Had no idea of quite how risky it is IVing pills nor codeine in general. One of many situations I suspect BL saved life and/or limb.
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Fucking hell, thank god you found this site.

I went through a phase of IVing Diconal which was what really did for most of my veins. Was like banging up strawberry milkshake.
 
Hehe. Glow in the dark barrels ftw <3

Dikes are still around - was offered some a while back - but lawdy are they pricey. I recall them being very sought after years back but must admit I'd not pay the going rate for 'em nowadays. Got no veins left anyway so would be somewhat pointless.

I quite agree on the finding of this site thing. The lack of knowledge I had back then - really not all that long ago given how long I've been at it - is truly shocking. Just goes to show how good HR info is out there in the world perhaps.
 
Diconal with cocaine is the best fucking hit in the world man, the rush goes on for 5x the length of smack.

I'm only young I was buying them a few years ago, good price too. Think I was paying about £3.50 each! I had a big habit at the time and one was enough to do the job a bag and a half of gear would, two of them was fucking intense bliss.

You get about two hits in each vein before it's game over with those fuckers though!

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From memory they were going for a tenner apiece last I heard which is extortionate no matter how much of a rush they are. Having said that I still would if I had the veins for it but I don't so really no point even bothering. They're shite taken orally as I recall. Might be worth a podger but wasn't taking the chance at that price. Plus, I really don't need reminding how much I <3 decent opies so probably for the best I declined ;)
 
I was just wondering what people's experience was going to the doctor about a codeine addiction? I read somewhere else that someone basically got laughed out of the surgery when they looked for help. Is that standard, or was he just really unlucky?
 
spudgun said:
I was just wondering what people's experience was going to the doctor about a codeine addiction? I read somewhere else that someone basically got laughed out of the surgery when they looked for help. Is that standard, or was he just really unlucky?
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Unlucky mate, codeine is metabolised into morphine so if taking high enough amounts it does not differ from a morphine addiction really.
 
Don't mate - I know it sounds harsh - but I was banging 2 boxes of paramol a day or linctus.

They don't take it seriou - and put on your record drug and alcohol problem.

It seems a struggle but it's not 'that' hard to control - tolerance goes through the roof, so ween yourself down till you've had a day, better 2, codeine free. Then - well this probably isn't great advise bang a bottle of lictus and a strip of codeine.

I'm not 'cured' - the doctors were never going to 'cure' me - you need to be on heavier stuff than codeine before replace therapy is given, and good luck on that journey! At least codeine is pretty much available world wide
 
^^No, that is good advice mate, cheers. It's not that big a deal and not worth getting myself marked for life for. I just thought it might make things easier if there was a bit more of an incentive to cut down, but the potential effects of going to the docs about it aren't worth it TBH.

Apart from anything else I'm on a long term drugs trial for a genetic condition and it seems to be working, so there's a chance I'd get kicked off that if I get a black mark by my name.
 
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Hiya,

I had a codeine addiction, 900mg a day. I'm now on suboxone script. Was taking 8mg increased to 12 mg now slowing reducing and am on 10 mg.

So people with codeine addictions can have scripts. You see, a lot of people forget that an addiction is more often psychological than it is physical and thus people compare the potency of the drugs. So they'll say suboxone is a hell of a lot stronger than codeine thus a person with a codeine addiction should not be put onto it. I say it depends on the person. I've known people been on codeine for years and years and years not been able to get off it, risking kidney / liver failure. Yes one can argue about cold water extraction (CWE) and 'tis a valuable argument. HOWEVER, when a person is in addicted mind they are not thinking straight. So, for instance, I'd be thinking "I don't want to do CWE because it's wasting time, I want it in my now, and I won't get as much codeine as I'd get without doing it." So would rather take the paracetamol / iboprufen and risk kidney / liver damage than the idea of not having as much codeine. That's how addiction messes with a person's mind.

Of course a lot of you know this if in addiction, but, and I mean this with no disrespect, some of you may not realise it if you are currently in active addiction. I know I didn't. I thought it was everyone else who had the issue and what was wrong with what I was doing so long as it took all that emotional pain and anger away and made me feel mellow, calm and like all is well with the world. In this respect, it was better for me to go onto suboxone, take a tablet once a day, with no paracetamol or iboprufen and that was free, than risk my health or finances any further.

Of course, this thread is for people with codeine addictions and recovery from codeine or DHC. That's why I made it not to dictate whether or not a person should go on suboxone from a codeine addiction or not. It depends on the person and the situation. If the person can find OTHER MEANS FIRST like a short / long taper, cold turkey, britlix (not sure of spelling) then I would suggest to try and go with any of those methods first and ONLY USE suboxone as a LAST RESORT, if all else fails... Subs can have some not nice side affect and if anyone is planning on going onto suboxone, my advice would be to research, research, research before going on it. Most scripts at taken for quite a long time so it's not a decision to be made light.

Wishing you all well and please keep coming here for support. We're here for you.
Evey xxxx
 
I have no experience with ORT, but surely they don't laugh you out of the door?! That's ridiculous!
Sure, codeine may be impotent in comparison to most opiates, but it is a Morphine pro-drug, and should be treated as such. A 2g/day Codeine habit should be treated akin to a 200mg Morphine habit, IMO. Unless they take the 'ceiling dose: 400mg' notion as fact, I, and I know many others, can attest to how false that unfortunately popular that bit of trivia is.
 
doombadger said:
Don't mate - I know it sounds harsh - but I was banging 2 boxes of paramol a day or linctus.

They don't take it seriou - and put on your record drug and alcohol problem.

It seems a struggle but it's not 'that' hard to control - tolerance goes through the roof, so ween yourself down till you've had a day, better 2, codeine free. Then - well this probably isn't great advise bang a bottle of lictus and a strip of codeine.

I'm not 'cured' - the doctors were never going to 'cure' me - you need to be on heavier stuff than codeine before replace therapy is given, and good luck on that journey! At least codeine is pretty much available world wide
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Is that really wise suggesting to someone not to seek help n that they will have their name blackened. Incorrect, I'm afraid!

True my doctor didn't know the best way to help me - but he referred me on to drug service, who gave me suboxone, therapy etc.

Maybe you had a bad experience - and I'm deeply sorry for that - but I don't think it's very harm reductive to discourage a person to seek medical help for an addiction.

Evey
 
Evey: part of me agrees that people shouldn't be discouraged from seeking help. However, seeking help officially is not a clear cut thing - a maintenance script may help you change the factors in your life that led to the addiction, but it does incur an unfortunately permanent 'mark' on your record. For some, that may be irrelevant, for others: it may be damning. I may be wrong, but I can't imagine a hospital/pharmaceutical company hiring I, an addict, to work around, or administer, psychotropics.
 
Shambles said:
From memory they were going for a tenner apiece last I heard which is extortionate no matter how much of a rush they are. Having said that I still would if I had the veins for it but I don't so really no point even bothering. They're shite taken orally as I recall. Might be worth a podger but wasn't taking the chance at that price. Plus, I really don't need reminding how much I <3 decent opies so probably for the best I declined ;)
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Have you done one before? I wouldn't baulk at a tenner each, one of them IV is much better than a bag of smack. The rush is pure fucking ecstasy for like a solid minute or two, flat out on your back orgasmic. They are the holy grail of opiates IMO. If I was still interested in using opiates to get high and had the veins I would pay that in a second. I would choose diconal over pharmaceutical diamorphine in a second.

You're right, it probably is good you steered clear, nothing I have ever done has even come close to the rush of a diconal speedball. It's like Usain Bolt compared to the rest of the field when he won those first Olympic medals. In fact definitely fucking steer clear because if anything is going to tempt you back it will be those cunts.=D
 
I did many, many years ago (fluorescent pink IV juice =D) but have no functioning veins (not for that kinda function anyway) left anywhere on my body I'm prepared to poke a needle into and with dics it really is the IV thing that you use them for. Did wonder if plugged would be close enough to make it worth a go for old times' sake but decided against it in the end. They are nice - very nice - and also very expensive and I'd only want a lot more than I could afford and probably end up chasing it with something else for a while. If I had viable veins I know I would've done but as I don't it just felt a bit pointless really. At the time they were special things, now they would be a great novelty but without the major selling point it just felt a bit too close to trying to recapture something I don't actually want anymore.
 
I procured about 12 diconal and just ate them. Fucking hell best high I think I ever had. Injecting not a thing i'm into.

Regards the point about seeking medical help for codeine addiction. It's tricky - it depends on what you want with your life, I'm sure you can imagine how many professions that black mark excludes you from. However all the databases aren't centralized - yet.

I changed to a rural practice following returning to the country and falling out of a roof - despite being having a drug and alcohol problemm on my record - I've prescribed 28 2mg Valium and 50 kapake 15/500 every month since November - Now I don't 'need' these - I make a call ask for them and they are ready for me. I should say it was a bad fall broken ankle, sprained wrist, back and muscle strain and I go to physio when its possible. I still get some pain, but nothing I can't sort 'privately' and it won't hurt my negligence claim - ladder collapsed beneath me.

But if I wanted to work in the emergency services, god forbid the army, dealing with kids - my admiting I had a very serios codiene addiction - and the response being taper down - well for the fat lot of use that did and the mark on my record - which my effect my mortgage rate, life insurance all that shit.

I really don't think you should seek medical help for codeine - fuck if you are happy to have it on your records at least have some fun and do smack
 
Shambles said:
I did many, many years ago (fluorescent pink IV juice =D) but have no functioning veins (not for that kinda function anyway) left anywhere on my body I'm prepared to poke a needle into and with dics it really is the IV thing that you use them for. Did wonder if plugged would be close enough to make it worth a go for old times' sake but decided against it in the end. They are nice - very nice - and also very expensive and I'd only want a lot more than I could afford and probably end up chasing it with something else for a while. If I had viable veins I know I would've done but as I don't it just felt a bit pointless really. At the time they were special things, now they would be a great novelty but without the major selling point it just felt a bit too close to trying to recapture something I don't actually want anymore.
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Truesay.

I used to use a 2ml (this was when I still had veins) and cook two of the fuckers up using heat and it would draw up looking like fucking strawberry milkshake.=D Definitely not worth paying for them unless you're going to IV, and as you suggest that would probably be a very silly idea even if you could.
 
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