Benzos etizolam withdrawl.

[mtop2036]

So im currently am addicted to etizolam. Ive been addicted to xaxax as well


I want to get off. I have a stomach issue which has effected pills my whole life. Lets use xanax for example. I take 2 Mg then the next day it takes 3- and so on and so on. Some days im able to get off the same ammount of pills the day before.



Point is I worked my way to 30 1 Mg pills of etizolam(not the pellets the brand made etizest which is superior to itaalm products since the only require 60% to 70% of the etizolam to be put in the pills. I know the etizolam is better but not sure of the % hopefully its 100. The regulations in India aren't so stirtch as the us)


Anyways I made a drop to 20 and some times I feel a high surpriainfly and it others not. I know that the worse withdrawal your in the less you need atleast that's how it was for me and xanax. So I made myself very ssick and didn't dose tor 50 hours and did another 10mg drop so now im on 10mg. And it wasnt cutting it. I took 5 more and that relieved my withdrawals. But I was hoping since I did self me so sick again I would be able to handle another 10mg drop especial since the first drop I didn't make myself sick. I just went from 1 day of 30 and the next day only 20 and was completely fine.

I know there are all kinds of factors like being to full of shit but both times I had a bowl movement and also always take my pills on a 100% empty stomach.


Anyways so what so you guys would think about a good taper plan while usually I can last longer than the average person. I have 60 left and 140 comming which its way more than enough to get off I want the rest as an aid. In my opiate detox.


Nand just some history at one point because of my stomach I made it up to 10 to 12 for three months xanax twice! Ans each time I made my self very sick withsrawl wise and halfed my dose. And each time these half doses both got me high. Then the next day down to 2 then 1 then. 5. I did go through minor withdrawals but was not bad especially with pot to help.

Anyways if anyone has any good taper ideas old love to her them but some how my body chemistry is a bit diffrent so. I ddont have to down super slow(not that's anything wrong with that just whatever works for you) but obviously don't want seizures. Anything is welcome and thanks
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[belfort]

jesus, 30 1 mg pills of etiz a day!?!?!that is unreal, ive been taking etiz for a few years and 2 mgs still hits me hard..

just taper off 1 mg every few days..it will be a slow process but worth it..

 

[Lechium]

A bit off topic but how long does it take to become addicted to etizolam? I have a feeling it takes a shorter period of use then normal benzos....

 

[tunesey]

The vendors claim it is less addictive than traditional Benzos

 

[drewbocop]

Well I call bullshit on the vendors, because I'm suffering more now from a short stint with etizolam than I did cold turkey'ing 30-60mg/day of diazepam in jail. Or maybe I was just so delirious in jail I didn't realize how bad it was. I don't know, but this etizolam will hand you some big boy benzo withdrawals in a relatively short amount of time. Trust me on that one.

 

[Lechium]

Well I call bullshit on the vendors, because I'm suffering more now from a short stint with etizolam than I did cold turkey'ing 30-60mg/day of diazepam in jail. Or maybe I was just so delirious in jail I didn't realize how bad it was. I don't know, but this etizolam will hand you some big boy benzo withdrawals in a relatively short amount of time. Trust me on that one.

How short amount of time we talking?

 

[drewbocop]

About 40 days. Waiting on a package right now. High doses though, and you have to take my history with benzos into effect.

 

[Movemauser]

jesus, 30 1 mg pills of etiz a day!?!?!that is unreal, ive been taking etiz for a few years and 2 mgs still hits me hard..

just taper off 1 mg every few days..it will be a slow process but worth it..

Really? Etizolam's stated diazepam equivalence is 1:10. I've taken etizolam a few times and I started on 4mg and escalated to 10mg. If 2mg is hitting you hard then I'm reckoning you're anomalously lucky in terms of value for money.

 

[Movemauser]

mtop, good that you're looking for help. Nice one. Despite Belfort's unusual reaction to Etizolam, their taper comment is right. You've got to taper and stick to it. That's the solution and problem all in one. See, once you taper a bit, you know that you can catch a buzz from a higher dose and the temptation is always there. That's just something you have to overcome.

Your best course of action is this: 1) Tell the doc that you're addicted to unscheduled benzodiazepines 2) ask for a prescription alternative and a taper schedule 3) follow that taper all the way

If you can't tell the doctor, then just do it using etozolam. But if that's the plan, then I recommend getting some counselling too.

 

[Movemauser]

Well I call bullshit on the vendors, because I'm suffering more now from a short stint with etizolam than I did cold turkey'ing 30-60mg/day of diazepam in jail. Or maybe I was just so delirious in jail I didn't realize how bad it was. I don't know, but this etizolam will hand you some big boy benzo withdrawals in a relatively short amount of time. Trust me on that one.

Definitely bullshit on the vendors. Good post.

 

[OntarioGuy]

where are you?in India or the etizolam is coming from india? is going to a doctor and asking for help an option?I did that and and now am on benzo maintenance.

 

[belfort]

Really? Etizolam's stated diazepam equivalence is 1:10. I've taken etizolam a few times and I started on 4mg and escalated to 10mg. If 2mg is hitting you hard then I'm reckoning you're anomalously lucky in terms of value for money.

i had very little experience with benzos prior to my etizolam use but yes, even after a few years of etiz use, 2 mgs still almost puts me to sleep..maybe my chemistry is more resilient to to benzo tolerance if that makes any sense..i always just see these threads and think people that are on high doses just kept chasing the high or blackout..

yeah if i took 10 mgs of etix right now id be fast asleep within an hour or so, i wouldnt be functional at all..

 

[belfort]

where are you?in India or the etizolam is coming from india? is going to a doctor and asking for help an option?I did that and and now am on benzo maintenance.

benzo maintenance?i never knew there was such a thing..are you slated to be on it forever or what?

 

[OntarioGuy]

not forever but until I can learn to cope with my PTSD and general anxiety and rage disorders.....currently take a once a day monitored dose of 100 mgs of diazepam and it holds me.....I am in Canada though, pretty liberal country with a n excellent health care system

 

[belfort]

not forever but until I can learn to cope with my PTSD and general anxiety and rage disorders.....currently take a once a day monitored dose of 100 mgs of diazepam and it holds me.....I am in Canada though, pretty liberal country with a n excellent health care system

a daily once off dose of 100 mgs of diazapem?!?!do you mean 10 mgs?100 mgs i would think would hold a few people from suffering from anxiety..lol..

 

[mtop2036]

I had a previous benzo problem for months and tapered out as I am sure I will do the same with this. My previous benzo use is why my tolerance is so high. When I first started on etizolamm 5mg was enough but the tolerance raised quickly for me as it does with things

 

[mtop2036]

Have others delt with tolerance and or withdrawal with etizolam at this level?

I should also add that im on 48mg of methadone tapering down from about 130.
And yes I am aware of the opiate benzo combination dangers which is why im working on getting off both.

The original plan with to use the etizolam to help with opiate detox when I get off but I wanted to try them to see how effective they were before I got more. Well now been through just under 500mg in a little over a month. Very ashamed of myself right now not only foe the addiction and tolerance reasons but that's 500 I could od had for help with my detox...very very dumb I know I definitely regret the choices ive made.

For anyone reading this just stay away from everything its just not worth the risk of addiction

 

[theflyingdead]

I don't think its complete bullshit on the vendors. thienodiazepines have a shorter half life then traditional benzodiazepines, and from what I understand drugs with shorter half lifes usually don't have the same degree of withdraw symptoms and arnt associate with the same rates of abuse, but it all depends how you use them. I think the science behind the claim is probably accurate but if you intend to abuse them data like that no longer really applys to you. Unfortunately there is little real research in the thienodiazepine area.
I can definitely say ive experienced withdraws from eitzolam use and they totally sucked, but I don't think any withdraw is easy.
Started taking one or two of the Etizest 1mg a day and that quickly worked its way up to about 8-10 mg. I was generally using them as a sleep aid and to chill out after a long ass day. This lasted for about 7 months and got to the point where 10 wasn't even really doing much, but I kind of capped my self off at around 10mg, sometimes would go as high as 15mg but tried to avoid increasing the dosage any more. Then abruptly one day I no longer had a source for them and only had 10 mg left. Started trying to taper myself off with 4mg the first day and 2 mg the next 3 days. After that I was on my own and was shitty for a little while but not as bad as I thought it would be.

 

[mtop2036]

I don't think its complete bullshit on the vendors. thienodiazepines have a shorter half life then traditional benzodiazepines, and from what I understand drugs with shorter half lifes usually don't have the same degree of withdraw symptoms and arnt associate with the same rates of abuse, but it all depends how you use them. I think the science behind the claim is probably accurate but if you intend to abuse them data like that no longer really applys to you. Unfortunately there is little real research in the thienodiazepine area.
I can definitely say ive experienced withdraws from eitzolam use and they totally sucked, but I don't think any withdraw is easy.
Started taking one or two of the Etizest 1mg a day and that quickly worked its way up to about 8-10 mg. I was generally using them as a sleep aid and to chill out after a long ass day. This lasted for about 7 months and got to the point where 10 wasn't even really doing much, but I kind of capped my self off at around 10mg, sometimes would go as high as 15mg but tried to avoid increasing the dosage any more. Then abruptly one day I no longer had a source for them and only had 10 mg left. Started trying to taper myself off with 4mg the first day and 2 mg the next 3 days. After that I was on my own and was shitty for a little while but not as bad as I thought it would be.

Ok thats where our bodys are diffrent. But litterally almost every med i've taken i'll tle "x" ammount then the very next day need more and this was going on before 10.
at 10 years old(was completely aginst drugs at this point) i was perscribed ambien after having a sleep study done. First night of taking them half of 1 knocked me pilout. next time i need a whole pill. next time i need 2 and a half pills and so on and so forth until im a 10 year old taking 6 ambiens and be lucky if they work for me.

 

[theflyingdead]

Doesn't sound like our bodies are that different. It only took about a month to go from 1 or 2 mg a day to 10-15mg a day. I just kind of capped myself off at that level because I figured it was high enough, and even though it lost most its more sought after effects it still helped me sleep, which was the main reason i started using it, although at that point it didn't even really feel like I was even taking anything. My first post was more about how I don't think the vendors claims that thienodiazepines where less addictive then traditional benzodiazepines was complete bullshit. Things that have shorter half lifes are generally shown to be less addictive then their counterparts that have longer half lifes. but that also all depends how you go about taking the drug. For vendors to advertise it as as less addictive alternative to benzo's is morally questionable because that statements probably only true in clinical medical treatment settings and people who use these vendors generally abuse the substance and arnt monitored. Just wanted to make the point that claims of thiendodiazepines being less addictive then benzos wasn't just completely pulled out of some vendors ass.