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If the tinnitus isn't being caused by an inner ear problem, such as Meniere's disease or vestibular neuronitis, then I think the tinnitus is directly caused by the MDMA altering serotonergic inhibitory mechanisms in the prefrontal cortex of the brain. I think this loss of inhibitory mechanisms in the prefrontal cortex is also what is responsible for the feeling of "being able to hear your heartbeat" reported in some MDMA users. These inhibitory circuits in the prefrontal cortex serve to tune out certain ambient elements.

Wow - this is profound in my case, as "being able to hear my heartbeat" is the only symptom which continues to present itself, ever since that reckless day in June 2005.

Over time, my "uncomfortable awareness of my heartbeat" - as I call it - has slowly but surely decreased in intensity, severity, longevity, and frequency. But it's never completely left me.

Zebrafish, would you recommend that I begin taking an SSRI in order to try and get rid of it completely? Perhaps I should have remained on Zoloft for a longer amount of time, back in 2006?

Most people find it hard to believe, and I don't blame them because SSRIs aren't exactly the easiest "anti-depressants" to remain committed to taking on a daily basis for several weeks, months, years, etc. They have some particularly nasty side effects (especially when you first start taking the drug, I find), and a few may be long term, such as issues with achieving and/or maintaining an erection.

Nevertheless, I continue to believe that choosing to use Zoloft for about 8 months back in 2006 aided my recovery.

A thought just popped into my head... Perfect timing too...

Ever since my "bad roll" nearly 9 years ago, there have been (many more) times (than I can count) when, for whatever reason, I decided to use therapeutic dosages of either Diphenhydramine (Benedryl), and also Dimenhydrinate (Gravol) - the later being a mixture of diphenhydramine and a slightly altered form of theophylline, IIRC. The point being that every time that I would be under the influence of diphenhydramine, I quickly began to notice that my "uncomfortable awareness of heartbeat" symptom was noticeably absent.

Eventually, I was surprised to learn that one of - if not - the first SSRIs invented - Fluoxetine (Prozac) - is based on the serotonin transporter inhibitory effect of diphenhydramine. Therefore, it's interesting that you mention the SSRI family as a possible candidate for treating (and perhaps reversing in the long term) prefrontal cortex-related tinnitus, as well as the "being able to hear your heartbeat" symptom which a significant portion of past and present MDMA users claim to be experiencing.

Although to mother nature, the average life expectancy of a human being is nearly nothing to write home about, for a human being who has been dealing with a chronic symptom for about 106 months, it certainly has made me forget how it felt to live without it. Not that I'm expecting any pity, as I am responsible for what has occurred to me.
 
ro4eva:

Does it really impact your life that much still, that you would consider going on an SSRI to possibly treat it? IIRC you said that you only really notice it a few times here and there throughout the week?

I also wonder if that really is the only thing you still struggle with? Do you really feel as if anxiety and the myriad of other problems/symptoms has left you completely? If so I find your recovery to be very remarkable indeed.
 
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ro4eva:

Does it really impact your life that much still, that you would consider going on an SSRI to possibly treat it? IIRC you said that you only really notice it a few times here and there throughout the week?

I can't say that it does impact my life anymore to the point where I would consider it debilitating. And that's something I'm awfully grateful for.

My consideration regarding possibly being put back on an SSRI is only due to desperation on my part - hoping to somehow rid myself of the "uncomfortable awareness of heartbeat" symptom. For if this adverse long term effect, born out of sheer recklessness on my part, were to be gone for good, then I could say that I'm finally 100% recovered from the effects of a "bad" ecstasy pill.

If however, investing time and energy in an SSRI "cycle" would bring me more risks than benefits, or more harm than good, then I will not bother.

I also wonder if that really is the only thing you still struggle with?

It is the only thing I struggle with in relation to the myriad of debilitating symptoms I was afflicted with on the day in which I ate an ecstasy pill which I shouldn't have.

I do have quite a few other issues I struggle with which are not related to the "bad roll". And I am confident that they are not related because I was struggling with my other issues long before June 7th, 2005, which is the day I nearly passed away (or at least it felt like it) from the aforementioned ecstasy pill. AFAIK, I am forbidden from identifying it, because if not, obviously I would describe the pill in greater detail.

Do you really feel as if anxiety and the myriad of other problems/symptoms has left you completely?

I do feel as if all of the other symptoms have left me completely. And I know it may seem hard to believe to those who are currently suffering with similar symptoms, but I have no reason to lie to you. I do not benefit from this in any way, other than perhaps some peace of mind by letting you guys know that I've been "there" and was utterly terrified that I'd have to spend the rest of my life in that state, but with time and a drastic change in my lifestyle, it appears as if I've nearly completely recovered. The exception of course being the "uncomfortable awareness of heartbeat" symptom, but even that appears to be improved.

It was bad. Boy, was it bad, and hard, and frustrating, and a whole lot of other things - back in the summer of 2005, and on and on until about January 2007.

I remember screaming to the doctors that I feel like I'm in a dream, and that my head feels... foggy. And that it feels as if I'm floating when walking somewhere... anywhere. Of course, they were clueless as to what the hell was wrong with me. I was diagnosed with some of the weirdest illnesses. For example, one doctor told me that I have an ulcer, and that this is what's causing all my symptoms. /facepalm

I never told anyone this before, but I recall being in the ER one day - they had put me on a stretcher because I was feeling extremely dizzy, disoriented, foggy, etc. Anyways, at one point, I began to weep, and I started praying out loud, asking my God for help. And this nurse came over and held my hands, and I'll never forget what she told me, which was that, "I know you're going through a difficult time, but I promise you that things will get better, and God hasn't abandoned you." Thinking back to this nowadays chokes me up, because I honestly didn't think I'd recover.

As I've said in previous posts in this thread, it wasn't until I began a period of 'trial and error' with various psychiatric drugs, that I finally began to notice an improvement.

If so I find your recovery to be very remarkable indeed.

I'm still somewhat shocked that I nearly completely recovered, to be honest. I mean, I have my views and beliefs on what aided in my recovery, but as someone who has a very vivid memory, thinking back to those days, and how horrible I felt - it shocks me that I'm here today and feel the way I do. It also has made me realize how fragile life can be. Lastly, this experience has helped me to tread very carefully regarding street drug use in general (e.g. I never use ecstasy pills or MDMA capsules/powder/shards anymore without having it tested thoroughly).

P.S. - You're welcome to PM me anytime if you wish to talk with me. I feel that it's the least I could do for others suffering from debilitating symptoms due to a bad roll, as I've been there myself and I have the utmost sympathy and empathy for you guys. And I promise you that I will never judge you, nor think less of you, nor gossip (or talk shit) behind your back, and so forth. Take care friend - do not give up.
 
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Hi Ro4eva,

As someone who as experienced tinnitus for several months now, I can only imagine what you must have endured for 9 years. However, I agree with ScaredFirstTimer, that you should consider treating it only if the symptoms are really limiting your activities of daily living, as you have indicated that the symptoms have lessened over time on their own. My tinnitus used to bother me quite a bit. It used to keep me awake at night, and it would worsen when I tried to read or concentrate. Although I still have the tinnitus to some degree, I am able to keep it from interfering with my life. All it does now is serve as a reminder of the damage I did to myself.

However, if you want to try to treat this using SSRI's, keep in mind of the benefit vs. risks of these medications. You have taken Zoloft before, so you know what side effects it can cause you, if any. Moreover, just keep a realistic expectation that this medication may or may not improve your tinnitus. The various case reports about using SSRI's for tinnitus were in patients who did not have a history of MDMA use. So, its impossible to say how effective this treatment will be in the setting of previous MDMA abuse.

If you decide to pursue this option, you may get some resistance from your physician. Since tinnitus is not a typical indication for SSRI treatment, I expect your physician will not know anything about this, and will be hesitant to prescribe it to you. However, if I were you, I would find the case reports on the internet about various patients with tinnitus who have significantly improved their tinnitus with SSRI's, print them out, and bring them with you to your physician. You two can then discuss if the benefit vs. risk ratio is worth trying a SSRI.

Keep me posted on what you decide to do. Take care my friend.

Thank you for your time, and for responding.

I am painfully aware that SSRIs are not magic pills which instantly correct the problems they're indicated for. And I also know that they can cause some nasty side effects. In fact, the first couple of SSRIs which I was put on landed me in the hospital due to some of those aforementioned side effects.

In terms of obtaining a prescription, that wouldn't be a problem, as I already have access (without a prescription) to any non-generic SSRI I'd want.

Perhaps sometime down the road, I may end up changing my mind, but for now, I don't think I'm gonna attempt this due to fear of risking too much for too little, so to speak.

Still though, information from posts like yours are invaluable to many Bluelighters. And it's part of what makes these forums so damn good. And that's why I'm still here after all these years.

Therefore, thank you very much for contributing your knowledge in an effort to help others pro bono. I wish there were more people like you on this planet.

Thank you friend, and I'll be in touch.
 
ro4eva:

Thanks for your thorough response! It gives me great relief that you have recovered so well over the years, and I'm actually truly happy for you The only thing I still wonder about is the issues that started prior to your bad roll, and that you are still experiencing. Could you elaborate a bit on them, when they started, what they consist of exactly etc? If that's not asking too much obviously. You can answer here or by PM if you want.

Again, thanks.

I do have quite a few other issues I struggle with which are not related to the "bad roll". And I am confident that they are not related because I was struggling with my other issues long before June 7th, 2005, which is the day I nearly passed away (or at least it felt like it) from the aforementioned ecstasy pill.
 
ok, its been 5 weeks since I have touched mdma - the longest break I have had in about 3 years.

I have used mdma around once a month consistantly for this time, although sometimes twice a month at the start. I have finally gotten away from the psytrance scene where I use it for a 15 week break to try and stop my use.

during the first year of using mdma, i used to use between 150mg - 250mg usually along with LSD or mushrooms. my comedowns would be fine - i exercise regularly, eat fairly healthy however do consume a decent amount of alcohol. i didn't really notice much effect on my congitive performance - was still doing well at university, had a good social life - loved the confidence from the drug, especially at outdoor festivals where i used to dance into the morning making heaps of new friends.

my second year (2012) i continued to use but upped the dosage. i usually used between 200-400mg in a night. on 2 occasions i used 500mg and at one festival i use a gram over the weekend - one of the worst mistakes of my life. i still enjoyed dancing all night, meeting new people - still got great highs from the drug. but come downs started to become worse, started mixing up words a lot more, started to have a tiny bit of social anxiety which i have never had before. my poly drug use also started to increase - while on mdma i used lsd, k, mushrooms, speed (usually as I was coming down to stay up), 2CB, DMT, MXE, MDPV, small amounts of coke (usually during come downs), smoked a bit of pot and did probably thousands of nitrous bulbs. i would use usually use a hallucinogen with the MDMA and then something to come down with or just stay up with speed :P

during 2013 i felt the dark side of this drug. i still used around once a month, usaully around 200-400mg in a night. my skills at university definitely decreased as well as my cognition - I am a lot slower at picking up things in conversation, learning new tasks or applying my knowledge in certain situations - somehow i managed to pass eveything though. social anxiety increased significantly and had several panic attacks. i started to get hand tremors a lot which freaked me out a lot - has anyone else had this before? my drinking increased a lot more as I tried to substitue mdma with going out and getting drunk. had a low patch with my gf at the start of the year which thankfully ended up ok but was a rough year.

this year I have used around 3 times all at festivals - have had pretty rough come downs but have definitely changed my lifestyle. my gf has been an amazing support (she doesn't use any drugs at all!) and has encouraged me in so many ways. i now run between 3-4 times a week, usually between 7-10km, eat amazing healthy food (usually cooked by her haha) and meditate regularly as well.

i have moved away for 15 weeks from the people I know in the psytrance scene and although I miss the parties I know its for the best. it's been 5 weeks since I have used mdma and although I have a long way to go yet, I already feel my brain becoming less foggy, some anxiety has decreased (although I still get quite a bit) and my fitness levels have gone through the roof. i have been drinking less as well - now only around 3-4 drinks a week max.

thanks for everyone who has posted their success stories on here, its so good to hear from people who have recovered and give me hope everyday - I hope to update and let you know mine in the future :D
 
ro4eva:

Thanks for your thorough response! It gives me great relief that you have recovered so well over the years, and I'm actually truly happy for you

Thanks :)

The only thing I still wonder about is the issues that started prior to your bad roll, and that you are still experiencing. Could you elaborate a bit on them, when they started, what they consist of exactly etc? If that's not asking too much obviously. You can answer here or by PM if you want.

Again, thanks.

Sure.

Prior to the "bad roll" I was already living (for several years) with the following:

Dysthymia (Age 12+)
- Ever since I reached puberty at the age of 12 and a half, I recall behaving in a dysthymic manner. Although I can't point my finger at a sole cause, I do strongly feel that my experience as a child who was physically abused by at least two family members had something to do with it. Schoolyard bullying also played a major part, as I was overweight for most of my childhood. Many days I would come home crying because I was bullied at school, only to receive a beating from a certain family member for various reasons. It was tough to say the least - not to mention, rather traumatic, as I was helpless to stop what was happening.

Attention Deficit Disorder (Age 5+)
- I'm not sure exactly when, why or how this came about, but I do know that I've always had difficulty concentrating, focusing, remembering, and so forth. Would you believe me if I told you that I have never read an entire novel in my life? And I'm in my 30s. Now, when I say that I've never read an entire novel, what I mean is that I have never managed to read an entire book without pictures while remaining concentrated or focused on what I was reading (for the entire duration). Countless times when I read a book, after a page or so, I found my mind wandering in elsewhere, in a very random fashion. Boy did I piss off the teachers.

Neuropathic Pain (Age 8+) - I don't recall exactly when this began to severely affect me to the point where it became debilitating, but, I've been told that it can manifest itself after a traumatic injury to the spine. And I experienced my first accident in which my spine was met with blunt force trauma at the age of 8. I couldn't walk for a week after that one. Had another spinal injury when I was 12. I could go on if you wish to know more about it.

Panic Disorder (Age 10+)
- From what I can remember, I experienced my first panic attack when I was 10, for which I sought medical attention, and was eventually put on some medication, but I have no idea what exactly it was - only that it made me sleep like a baby. My second panic attack occurred soon after I turned 14, followed by another two years later, followed by a couple the year after in 2001, and more thereafter. The frequency began going down in 2006, ironically when I was sick from the bad roll.

Opiate Addiction & Dependency (Age 18+) - By 2001, I was put on pain meds for my neuropathic pain which included narcotics, and was instantly hooked by the euphoric feelings I was experiencing on top of the analgesic effects. So I began supplementing my opioid prescription with more of the same but obtained elsewhere. In early 2008, I had an argument with my family doctor which culminated in him labeling me an addict, and he immediately stopped my opioid prescription because of it. As a result, I turned to the black market to obtain any opioid I could to stop the dope sickness, and I quickly turned to what was cheaper, which - at least where I presently reside - was Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) and Diacetylmorphine (Heroin). Eventually, I was broke and pawning my stuff to support my habit. I tried countless times to quit by detoxing, but I always relapsed. In the end, I did what I had to in order to save my life. In 2010, I went on MMT (Methadone Maintenance Treatment).

Hypogonadism (Age 28+)
- About a year after starting MMT, I began to randomly experience bouts of extreme weakness and pallor. I eventually found out that my testosterone level was very, very low, and that I require testosterone injections, which I still receive at present.

My current meds are:

Wellbutrin XL (Bupropion) -- Dysthymia
Xanax (Alprazolam) -- Panic Disorder
Methadose (Methadone) -- Opiate Addiction & Dependency
Lyrica (Pregabalin) -- Neuropathic Pain
Neurontin (Gabapentin) -- Neuropathic Pain
Vyvanse (Dextro-amphetamine + Lysine) -- Attention Deficit Disorder
Delatestryl (Testosterone) -- Hypogonadism
Acetylsalicylic Acid (Aspirin) -- Neuropathic Pain
Acetaminophen/Paracetamol (Tylenol) -- Neuropathic Pain

Edit - added some extra info below...

As you may be able to tell from my meds, my biggest issue at the moment is the Neuropathic Pain. The drug cocktail I'm on is as good as I've ever gotten it to be in relation to therapeutic effects (relief of symptoms), but like every other Rx med, they're obviously far from perfect, with some rather nasty side effects (short and long term). That being said, I feel the benefits outweigh the risks, and so do my doctors.

With respect to my other problems, my panic attacks are nearly non-existent nowadays. I have one major attack every 3 months or so, compared to at one point when I was having multiple massive attacks daily.

My ADD symptoms have gone down in severity big time, as I am able to focus and concentrate like never before - it's great!

The MMT has helped me to steer clear of other opioids for nearly 3 years now. And I'm debt free, finally. And I bought back everything I pawned. So it's been a HUGE help. Plus, no cravings is awesome.

Lastly, the testosterone injections have brought my testosterone levels back up to a normal range. And in the process, it has significantly increased my sex drive, which is nice.

I hope I didn't miss something, but if I did, please let me know.

Damn, that was a lot of typing, but it's no problem.

I sincerely wish you all the best with your recovery. I know you're gonna recover. It just takes time and possibly a lifestyle change.

Take care bro, ciao for now.
 
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Has anyone here just tried meditating daily? Like twice a day 15-20 min at a time?

I have, and I can say I feel a huge difference.

I honestly wanna just say to everyone, just stop trying to figure it out, and SIT.

Meditate man!

Sit for 20 min a day, at least once a day and do nothing except listen to your mind. Sit there and just listen. Dont try to calm it down, just sit there, focus on your breath and just listen to the noise in your mind. Let it happen. Its cool. You already know your mind is crazy, how about just sitting there and just letting it unwind.

You will start to see a crazy thing start to happen, as you LET IT UNWIND, it will naturally calm it self down, and carry over through the rest of the day.

Yet you need to do this every day, 20 min a day for a bout a month in order to start to see a difference.

How simple is this, no medication, no side effects, no pills or supplements, or rigorous working out. Your just sitting and doing nothing.

Try it for a week, every day, 20 min a day.

Come back to me and let me know how you feel.
 
It definitely works pmz. I meditate every day for 20 minutes. However, when I meditate I try and focus on my breath and everything going on around me in the present moment. I like to listen to the stillness around me or relaxing meditation music if I have my headphones on. I try not to listen to the noise in my mind. If I find my thoughts racing too much I bring myself back to the present moment usually by focusing on my breathing. Science has proven that with consistent meditation practice for eight weeks it measurably changes the brain's physical structure. Science has also proven it strengthens the brain by reinforcing the connections between brain cells. These two facts are only two of the many benefits meditation can have on one's MDMA recovery.

I've also found to be a better conversationalist when I've been consistently meditating. It gets rid of a lot of the clutter (pointless thought loops) in my mind to be able to articulate what I'm trying to say and receive information more effectively when listening. One great thing about meditation is that it does give you the opportunity to notice the repetitive and inconsequential thought loops. You'll find that every day you think about the same shit. When you eliminate those repetitive thoughts (that are usually negative) you'll find yourself much more calm and at peace with your self. Also, one of my favorite benefits of meditating is the mental calmness it brings. I found after meditating for weeks that I reacted less when I was upset or angry. I was more in control of myself and felt more centered.

One of my enlightments I've had during my short history with MDMA is that the present moment is most important for your happiness. During an afterglow I had no thoughts concerning my past or my future. I was totally focused on the NOW. This is essentially what meditation is all about - clearing your mind to focus on what is right in front of you at this very moment. Along with that came no depression or worries - complete peace. Thinking about the past causes depression, thinking about the future causes anxiety, being in the now brings you the peace and relaxation everyone could use more of. Meditation is training your mind to be in the moment.

Note: For those new to meditating don't be surprised if you're easily distracted and annoyed with the fact that you can't stay in the moment. You don't realize how often your mind wanders and the repetitive thought loops you deal with everyday until you try and meditate. With more practice you will get better and notice your meditation practices carrying over to your every day life.

Meditation is one of the best self-improvement exercises anyone can do daily. For those suffering with a harsh comedown like I am - the benefits of meditation are even more far reaching.
 
Actually while i'm here i'll give a short update too. These last few weeks I have felt 90-100% like my old self. Nine months ago I would have never pictured myself being this close to being recovered, I was so fucked up I can't even put it into words. Life is good again and I no longer want to die. Good!

As far as my 'comedown' is concered, it is done and dusted. I've always had a slight anxiety disorder since I was 18 (i'm 24 now) which would come and go, so i'm only really dealing with that now, which is fine because a majority of the time it's not even there.

As for MDMA, I will never touch it again. Period. It's just not for me :)
 
Actually while i'm here i'll give a short update too. These last few weeks I have felt 90-100% like my old self. Nine months ago I would have never pictured myself being this close to being recovered, I was so fucked up I can't even put it into words. Life is good again and I no longer want to die. Good!

Hello Jiraiya,

That is fantastic news! And although we may not know each other, I'm sincerely so happy for you! It fills me with joy to hear that in nine months time, you've gone from someone who was clearly suffering big time, back to nearly your old self. It's just great to read other BLer's success stories, especially when it deals with something which I was struggling with. And I too wanted to die at first because I was worried this would never end. Good thing to both of us that we didn't go through with it.

As far as you not touching MDMA anymore goes - It's probably for the best, as we all respond to psychotropic drugs differently.

One of my really good buddies nearly choked to death the first time he ever tried (smoked) weed. And afterwards, he began throwing up, after which, he passed out for a few hours. We were really worried. Thankfully, he recovered. But it just goes to show you that even weed isn't for everyone. Ironically, this guy smokes tobacco like a chimney, and can handle more booze than anyone in our group, which is quite an accomplishment.

The same thing goes within my circle of friends and acquaintances. Some of us use MDMA/MDA to party, opioids to chill, weed to sleep. Others use booze to party, weed to chill, and opioids to sleep. Then a couple of us prefer to use coke+beer or amphetamines (but not meth) to party, weed to chill, opioids to sleep. It goes to show you how different we all are with respect or our drugs of choice. Other than that, we love doing the same stuff, which is what brings us together. One friend of mine uses LOTS of weed to rave - I know it's weird, as personally, I would looking at people how they're dancing and laughing my ass off, while hungry as hell. Another uses opioids to party (I would be nodding away).

Anyways, again, it's really good to hear that you're 90%+ recovered. Way to go!

I'll drink to that, cheers =D=D=D (as you can probably tell, I love success stories)
 
wow I'm happy to find this thread! That's crazy honestly I didn't know so many people struggled with MDMA like I do. It seemed uncommon but I feel a lot better knowing I'm not alone. I wish you guys all the best.

I started 'rolling' when I was 14 and would go to lots of raves and take many colorful pills started off taking 1-2 then ended up doing 3-5 and so on.. But I did that for about a few years and I would get VERY harsh comedowns that felt so terrible and exgrusiating. I would scavange for more pills and try to get as much as I could because the come down was to much for me and I wanted the high to last.
But after doing that for a few years I quit and got into Meth and did that for a little until I got pregnant and quit absoultly everything and had a healthy baby and put her up for adoption to a wonderful couple.
but after some months after the adoption was finalized I started to get back into rolling again, now there is only mollys around so I was experimenting with these. I'm now getting addicted to them again and going a week without rolling makes me really anxious. and If I think about rolling I get tingles and a rush through my body of like excitement and crave. I bought a test kit that helps me a lot so I know whats real and whats not.. someone actually sold me sugar once.. -.-
But anyways, I have been struggling with mdma use and I don't want to get bad again :s
 
wow I'm happy to find this thread! That's crazy honestly I didn't know so many people struggled with MDMA like I do. It seemed uncommon but I feel a lot better knowing I'm not alone. I wish you guys all the best.

I started 'rolling' when I was 14 and would go to lots of raves and take many colorful pills started off taking 1-2 then ended up doing 3-5 and so on.. But I did that for about a few years and I would get VERY harsh comedowns that felt so terrible and exgrusiating. I would scavange for more pills and try to get as much as I could because the come down was to much for me and I wanted the high to last.
But after doing that for a few years I quit and got into Meth and did that for a little until I got pregnant and quit absoultly everything and had a healthy baby and put her up for adoption to a wonderful couple.
but after some months after the adoption was finalized I started to get back into rolling again, now there is only mollys around so I was experimenting with these. I'm now getting addicted to them again and going a week without rolling makes me really anxious. and If I think about rolling I get tingles and a rush through my body of like excitement and crave. I bought a test kit that helps me a lot so I know whats real and whats not.. someone actually sold me sugar once.. -.-
But anyways, I have been struggling with mdma use and I don't want to get bad again :s

First of all you are rolling way to often, I hope you are aware of this. MDMA, or any of the substituted cathinones that might be in the pills you are taking is not something that is really compatible with "addiction". Meaning that you should stop taking everything right now. A test kit is obviously a wonderful tool, but if you keep rolling at such a high frequency you will most likely fuck yourself up pretty severely.

The smartest thing you can do for yourself is to stop taking drugs all together (if these kinds of drugs is the only thing you are taking) for several months to see how you are feeling then.
 
Yes you are right.. I'll try my best to stop or slow down but I'll really try to stop I just get really excited and anxious to do it so its hard not too cause I get really tempted. But I'll try my best to stop cause I know that's what's best.. Thanks for the reply btw.
 
...and If I think about rolling I get tingles and a rush through my body of like excitement and crave.

I know the feeling. And I still get it whenever I listen to certain trance tracks. It's accompanied by goosebumps and, at times, thoughts of rolling.

I was a massive etard before I got sick from a bad pill. And I'd roll once, twice, sometimes three times a week for over a year. Somehow, my brain was able to take it. And I won't lie, it was fun, but also very reckless of me. I was asking for it, and I got it (a bad pill). Should have listened to all those posts from the older crowd about buying a testing kit. But, better late than never I guess.
 
ro4eva,

Am I correct in that you continue to roll or have rolled since your "bad" pill experience?
 
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