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Do the old timers talk about R and B meth in your area (Red and Black)???

invictus

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around here all the white trash peope, and especially old timers are in love with the red and black meth of old. Is this an isolated phenomena, or do you guys get this too?
 
why is it fucked up that kids would only buy crystal they found visually appealing? While I may not agree with that, because my personal experience is that some of the worst looking meth was the bangingest, it's those childrens money, and they can choose to spend it however they want. And as long as the dealers aren't selling a cut or sub par product, then my hat goes off to them for their ingenuity, it's not always easy to get people to do your drugs.8)


is there even meth in new jersey?
 
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Damn, here for 8+ years and that's the post you come up with when you choose to contribute? I don't know whether to be disappointed or go all multi-alert haha. Rule #1 of drugs is that every drug exists everywhere.
 
Damn, here for 8+ years and that's the post you come up with when you choose to contribute? I don't know whether to be disappointed or go all multi-alert haha. Rule #1 of drugs is that every drug exists everywhere.

I think I was the op.

oh and join date 2010 =D
 
I've never heard of red nor black meth honestly.

it's red AND black, from red phosphorus and black iodine used to make hydroiodic acid...so they slang became red and black. Here it's all the old timers talk about, how fire it was, how much they toned down the meth of today...today's meth is basically cough syrup compared to the 90's meth. And now all the kids who have rolled their first bowl make it a point to wear red and black outfits or post r n b on facebook. Their favorite music is R and B, a subtle ode to methamphet.
 
Alot of old school meth was cooked via P2P which in general is easier to obtain a more pure product and has the benefit of being 'proper' chemistry, rather then the 'shake and bake' method (makes me shudder to think of ingesting that product).

So, old style meth likely was of a better quality but it bears mentioning that sometimes methamphetamine and amphetamine still has dye leftover from the pseudo pills.
This gives it the distinctive red or pink colouring but doesnt affect the potency in anyway.

OP, im not sure if you were doing a bit of light trolling but children buying meth is fucked up by anyones standards.
Children dont have the capacity to make an informed decision regarding drug use. Thats why we have to protect and inform them, so that we actually have a generation after ours.
 
I reread my post and I didn't interpret whosajiggawaa's post as an issue of children buying meth. Here in the united states, all of the kids already are on prescription meth and Adderall, and it fucks me up that big pharma is the one getting all that money and ripping insurance companies off. I would much rather drug dealers get that action, and if they have to make strawberry meth to compete with big pharma's amphetamine sugary sweet Adderall pills then so be it. Meth is handled better by the body anyways and with less side effects.
 
yeah I know about rhythm and blues, but all the tweakers on my friends list have R n B in music they like on facebook, and i'm pretty sure they're talking about glass shards, and not jagged edge.
 
I agree completely that big pharma has been alot less then scrupulous in their marketing of powerful drugs but i cant agree with dealers getting 'that action'.

The difference is that prescription amphetamines have to be given under the care of a doctor.
The responsibility has to sit with the prescribing doctor, as the pharma companies are only meeting a demand.

Im not sure your correct in saying that methamphetamine is handled better by the body then amphetamine and has less side effects.
With all due respect OP, you might want to have a look at some of the literature regarding the damage meth can cause.
 
it's red AND black, from red phosphorus and black iodine used to make hydroiodic acid...so they slang became red and black. Here it's all the old timers talk about, how fire it was, how much they toned down the meth of today...today's meth is basically cough syrup compared to the 90's meth. And now all the kids who have rolled their first bowl make it a point to wear red and black outfits or post r n b on facebook. Their favorite music is R and B, a subtle ode to methamphet.



Uh, well that makes no fucking sense in the least. Back in the old days you couldn't make meth like Walter White, the people synthing it were usually shitty cooks making an inferior racemic powder that can't be smoked like today's crystal.

Levo-methamphetamine (one half of racemic methamphetamine) is actually sold OTC as a nasal decongestant, it has literally zero euphoric properties. Dextro-methamphetamine is isomer responsible for that major dopamine release we all know and love. It's possible racemic meth could add something to the high as compared to dextro-meth, but it's also said to have a LOT more side effects and be quite a bit less potent as well.

You want enantiomerically pure meth, just ask Mr. White
 
I agree completely that big pharma has been alot less then scrupulous in their marketing of powerful drugs but i cant agree with dealers getting 'that action'.

The difference is that prescription amphetamines have to be given under the care of a doctor.
The responsibility has to sit with the prescribing doctor, as the pharma companies are only meeting a demand.

Im not sure your correct in saying that methamphetamine is handled better by the body then amphetamine and has less side effects.
With all due respect OP, you might want to have a look at some of the literature regarding the damage meth can cause.

I've probably done 1000 Adderall pills over the years and not once did I get them from a caring doctor. Well technically I did, but not directly.

Plus 60x 30mg Adderall (1.8 grams) costs more than a 1/16 an ounce of meth over here (1.75 grams), and since methamp is 3x more potent by weight, the dealers would actually be saving anybody money that had an ounce of self discipline.

Also, p2p meth isn't the same as reduced ephedrine meth, which is what r and b refers too. Everyone I've talked to about p2p calls it peanut butter dope or bathtub crank, because it was less pure.
 
Uh, well that makes no fucking sense in the least. Back in the old days you couldn't make meth like Walter White, the people synthing it were usually shitty cooks making an inferior racemic powder that can't be smoked like today's crystal.

Levo-methamphetamine (one half of racemic methamphetamine) is actually sold OTC as a nasal decongestant, it has literally zero euphoric properties. Dextro-methamphetamine is isomer responsible for that major dopamine release we all know and love. It's possible racemic meth could add something to the high as compared to dextro-meth, but it's also said to have a LOT more side effects and be quite a bit less potent as well.

You want enantiomerically pure meth, just ask Mr. White

I thought most of the Mexican cartel meth was raecemic because they use phenylacetone, and walter white's method is bullshit, you can't change around isomers of a molecule like he claims to do in breaking bad. If what he says was true, you could extract l-meth from vicks and turn it into blue sky.
 
@folley
you have got to remember that P2P meth synth wasnt discovered by walter white.lol
You obviously know your stuff folley and im not disputing your statements but although shitty synths and hence shitty products would have existed in the dim past, good quality well synth meth would have existed.

Infact, i would go as far as saying that the average quality is likely very similar now as it was then but the quantity available is alot higher now (im sticking my neck out here because im not US based.lol).
Bad cooks and shit synths existed in that dim past, the same as they do today (shake and bake for example).
However, there would have been good chemists producing a quality product back then...as there no doubt is today.
 
idk he's knows just enough to be dangerous and is using walter white as evidence. walter white is the same guy that robbed a train and killed a kid for METHYLAMINE, one of the easiest to synth chemicals out there.
 
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