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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread and FAQ v17.0 + v18.0

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True that, so if i can make it thru the nite i should be able to dose around 8am, an hour before i got to be at work, 46 hors since ingesting my last 60mg dot of oc
Also does kra(p)tom play a role in induction as far as p/WDs go? Never seen a straight answer on this
 
I don't think kratom is going to help you in any way, eteezy. Kratom has quite a subtle effect compared to iv oc's., and your tolerance is probably too high for it to factor in.
 
^^ i realize this as it hasn't done much but help w my stomach/runs. I was more concerned of it would effect the time i wait to take bupe
Just re read, to little to factor in. Gotcha and thanks,

As far as rating myself i was kinda just using my aches(or lack there of) chills to "rank" myself when i actually looked at the COWS again i saw the symptoms such as pupil dialation, tremor and heart rate, which are off so yes i am scoring higher than thought, maybe 18-22.
So i should be good to dose by 48 hours when im supposed to be at work? Should i start with .5 or 1mg, I'd like use no more than one strip(only got two, well my boy owes me one) to get through work, outdoors washing cars ALL DAY. I'm thinking 1-2mg probably somewhere in between. Then nothing the next day as i don't have to work then play it by ear Thursday.
I got rx klonopin, kratom, and good weed at my disposal(thought about lope due to reports here but eh..) n it wasn't a big habit compared to past ones so I'm hoping I'll be out the dark in 5 days or so(physically at least, i think i like do many others have said will CRAVE for life.
 
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Hey guys,
I really need help, I have started suboxone treaatment and I still crave heroin. I'm skin popping, and IVing it and its stupid, I wanna know, is methadone or regular subutex any better because I craaave and I know I cannot do another drug because of withdrawals.
But I wanna know does methadone more euphoric? Because if it is it would help more with craves. PLEASE REPLY someone lol
 
I was on MMT for two years at 90mg/day followed by 3/4 months of bupe. I can def say if the clinic wasn't so far and such a hassle, no take homes for me cause i smoke weed, i would have much rather stayed on that, and weaned all the way down then maybe bupe. Might not be here tryn to get clean, again
so yes methadone is better for cravings, hell i nodded off for two years at my maintenance dose then started weaning
 
So my subs came via USPS today like 30 minutes after I got a .2 of dope from my neighbor a few houses down. I literally just got finished when the mailman came around the corner. Oh well.. I'll start in the morning and then get my refill in the afternoon.
 
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Hey guys,
I really need help, I have started suboxone treaatment and I still crave heroin. I'm skin popping, and IVing it and its stupid, I wanna know, is methadone or regular subutex any better because I craaave and I know I cannot do another drug because of withdrawals.
But I wanna know does methadone more euphoric? Because if it is it would help more with craves. PLEASE REPLY someone lol
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What dose are you currently on? How many days have you been on it? Suboxone doesn't work for everyone. Some people have such high tolerances or crave so heavily (like you are obviously doing) that Suboxone is just never going to be enough. If you are looking for euphoria, and simply want to replace dope with something legal/affordable, then methadone is the the way to go. If you are trying to curb your addiction, get your shit together, and get on the path of being off of opiates, suboxone might be the best bet for you.

You have to give your body a few days to acclimate to the Suboxone. Not everyone feels immediate relief on the day they induce. Some folks (and they'll chime in soon I'm sure) had to juggle a few days there where cravings still existed, but they eventually balanced out on the subs. Some people's body chemistry is just not suitable for subs at a certain point. If you are feeling nothing but cravings-and I mean zero relief-then you may want to check out a methadone clinic. It sounds like you still really want to get high; suboxone won't help with that. When used correctly, and at the right dose, suboxone will keep withdrawals away. It will keep you level. You won't get euphoria like methadone will give you.
 
I keep on seeing quetions being posted about when someone can take subs safely after they been on kratom for a bit. I have found that I can ALWAys take a sub no mater when I last took Kratom, that means taking them both at the same time or taking a sub 3 hours or 12 hours after and NOT experiencing any PWD. Now I'm not saying it's going to be like this for everyone but just sharing what I have experienced in this department. I should also add that I have been doing Kratom since 2006 and started on subs back in october of 2013.
 
So at 44 hours i took 1mg subL n another 1mg ~2 hours later. Feel good minus a stomach cramp, maybe bc my stomach, uh, let loose between the two doses.
When i opened my strip it was a bit spotty but still flexible. According to the packaging they expired in jan. but was told earlier in this thread that as long as they're unopened they stay good, so I guess I'm asking if the spots/blotches are normal?
How should i.store the opened strip so it stays good?
Other than taking some and receiving no effects, is there a way to tell that the strip has gone bad?
Oh yea, any body else get weird sweats from bupe?
 
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^I always just cut mine up with a razor on a plate, and leave them sitting out on the plate. Is there some reason to not leave them out? I somehow doubt they will degrade over a couple days of sitting out.
 
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They dry out and start to crumble, the longer they sit out. A couple days probably isn't a big deal, but a few weeks and longer, etc, will mess them up. I don't know specifically how it affects the potency, but just from the condition of the strip after sitting out for a while, I'd imagine there is at least some decrease in strength and efficiency.
 
Of course the puerto ricans i fucks with just ran out of their shitty brown powder which i think is severely cut n powdered tar bc it leaves "sand" or particulates that don't break down at the bottom of the spoon, but today they got some fire white shit... Go figure
 
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I saw this post with a link attatched to it, real scientific i know, but the jist of it was one could theoretically use any opiate other than the one they were hooked to to wean thru withdrawals with out becoming dependent on the new opiage assuming discipline was there.
I ask cause I'm tryn to.break my physical dependence on blues, went 44 hours, took 2mg of sub about 12 hours ago, then could i theoretically use heroin tomorrow without fucking up the oxy detox, being I've never used heroin but in short spurts (what can i say, Florida has all the pills and they're usually better than thE shitty Florida dope I've usually come across, except this time, albeit the pills are much more $$$)

I know this is me justifying tryn to use this fire that i shouldn't have scored when tryn to get clean but it seems the good shits always around when your tryn to stay away...i wish i had the will power to put it away for a month from now
 
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You're not understanding how withdrawal actually works. You don't get dependent on specific opiates like heroin, oxy, bupe, etc. You get addicted to opiates in general, and how they affect the brain. It is your tolerance level and the half-life of the drug in question that changes your withdrawal severity and length. All opiates will get rid of withdrawals, no matter what DOC you have, provided you adjust the dose for your tolerance. Understand? So, for example.. if you're addicted to oxy and switch to subs, it doesn't work the way where, if you don't take the subs long enough, you'll break your oxy addiction and not be hooked on the subs, or if you keep taking the subs, you'll be dependent on subs and not oxy.. by switching to bupe, no matter how long you take if for, you're still dependent on opiates but bupe is easier to taper with and has a longer half-life, so it'll allow for your opiate tolerance to drop, and therefore make withdrawals easier. That's how it works.
 
Oh man, I'm putting that one on a clipboard for my friends who still don't get why they can't quit Oxy with "a little dope" or "a week of Bupe" and avoid w/d completely. Well explained.
 
^If you hit it right with a short detox done just the right way, you can dramatically reduce the withdrawals...
 
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