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DrinksWithEvil

DrinksWithEvil

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ive been told i have hep c 2 times and 2 times i didnt..so likely i do ..IV drug use .

now i drink alot AGAIN. like 5th aday for the past 14 months...

i wake up now feeling sick and dryheaving,i have to get my dryheves over before my mom wakes up everyday

i saw a dr and she scipted me gabapentin i took 900mg last night twice my scripted dose,and felt pretty drunk

i guess i need to get used to it

anyways, i relapsed last week IV roxy..dunno i guess im just confused dunnno what to do been to rehab 9 times,maybe im just a addict for life:\ ive been of subs for a few months now

dunnoo why im posting this
 
Maybe get away from where you are currently living. You know get a new outlook on life, possibly your surroundings are bringing you down?

Also do you work? If not try to find a job so your not constantly thinking about drugs & booze, find a hobby.

If you really want to quit I would tapper one drug at a time.
 
lol i just moved here from cali, im in HAWAII now cant get much better. im pretty much sober except booze. the gaba takes away the cravings, but i drink still out of habit.

i should probably start diving more
 
^I used to live in Hawaii, on the Big Island...It's a great place to get clean...tough to adjust to how laid back it is though, if you're used to living in the city...
 
i can only suggest be careful with the drinking.
alcohol leads to no good when abused IMveryhardlearnedE.

hawaii sounds nice though,maybe there is something positive going on where u live….
 
Damn Hawaii *major meth issues over their*:|

I heard somewhere maybe another BL'er told me that there is a pill for alcoholic's, you should Google it. IDK if insurance covers it or not. (check it out)

Yea diving sounds cool, just please be careful if you can't control your drinking.

Man your doing too much to your liver & plus you said that you don't have hep c, id get clean the sooner the better.
 
DrinksWithEvil said:
lol i just moved here from cali, im in HAWAII now cant get much better. im pretty much sober except booze. the gaba takes away the cravings, but i drink still out of habit.

i should probably start diving more
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Maybe you should talk to your doctor about antabuse (I know, emergency option), or maybe even a 10mg diazepam taper? The gabapentin is worthless if you're washing it down with hard liquor.

Are you currently dependant on IV Oxy too?
 
i do have hepc greeneyes , antabuse? i dnno that seems kinda shitty ....i dont want to be sick if ai get booze, even though im throwup everymorning ,ya the gaba was working but then i got booze

nah i dont have a IV oxy dependent habit
 
DrinksWithEvil said:
i do have hepc greeneyes , antabuse? i dnno that seems kinda shitty ....i dont want to be sick if ai get booze, even though im throwup everymorning ,ya the gaba was working but then i got booze

nah i dont have a IV oxy dependent habit
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So all you're battling currently is EtOH dependence (not that opioid addiction isn't a constant life battle). Are you drinking to get drunk, or are you drinking to stay 'normal'?

About disulfiram (Antabuse) it's merely a latch ditch effort, even more last ditch than naltrexone implants are to opioids. They just block. I couldn't even imagine a drug which caused 5mg of hydrocodone to put you into acute WDs (without any prior dependence).

The antabuse after one experience is meant to dissuade you from even taking a sip of alcohol, as you know. If you can't get to that stage it would just be a whole lotta pain for you.

The gabapentin was working by itself to remove symptoms of alcohol withdrawal? If so this all comes down to a self control problem, which we as addicts are all too familiar with. The drunken effects you felt from gabapentin 900mg (slight drunken, slight euphoria) wear off quite rapidly, like 1-3 days rapidly, and massive increases in dose won't do a damn thing. If you continue to take gabapentin with alcohol you will merely be compounding the problem. If you think alcohol withdrawal is bad, gabapentin+alcohol withdrawal will be exponentially bad. In other words, one or the other. Even if you use the gabapentin day 1, drink day 2, gabapentin day 3, would be far better than your current use. Just trying single alcohol free days with gabapentin could be the stepping stone you require. (this does not mean take gabapentin at night to avoid the morning WDs, and then drink)

I know this is more of a pharmacological discussion in a forum meant for emotional issues and recovery. Us addicts are addicts for life, but that does not mean at all that you need to be dependant on drugs all your life, or that you can't live a normal life. I feel for you, though I have never had dependency issues (just abused them) with gabagerics, but I understand that they can trump opioid acute WD pain.

Even if you don't know why you posted it, it's a start.

Things can always get better.

If you tried a diazepam taper like I mentioned, could you find the will to abstain from alcohol if you were feeling "normal"?

Things to keep in mind:

1. You can get better. Hep C is not a death sentence (life is a death sentence), and you can live a normal life.
2. You are not a failure, no matter how many times you have failed to get clean, you have a medical issue. All us addicts do.
3. People care about you, if not your immediate family (you mentioned your Mom, so I'm sure she does if you're worried about her hearing you heaving), then people in TDS, or BL in general. I care about you and only wish the best.
4. You are struggling with the most commonly abused drug in the US, and it is incredibly hard to stop due to it's cheap price, and universal availability.

My thoughts are with you buddy
 
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DrinksWithEvil said:
i do have hepc greeneyes , antabuse? i dnno that seems kinda shitty ....i dont want to be sick if ai get booze, even though im throwup everymorning ,ya the gaba was working but then i got booze

nah i dont have a IV oxy dependent habit
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Sorry to hear that I missed read the hep c,

But the Antabuse is worth a try if your ready.

If you need to talk you can PM me I go through the alchy every night and I'm currently tapering off the booze.
 
lolwhatzdrugs said:
So all you're battling currently is EtOH dependence (not that opioid addiction isn't a constant life battle). Are you drinking to get drunk, or are you drinking to stay 'normal'?

About disulfiram (Antabuse) it's merely a latch ditch effort, even more last ditch than naltrexone implants are to opioids. They just block. I couldn't even imagine a drug which caused 5mg of hydrocodone to put you into acute WDs (without any prior dependence).

The antabuse after one experience is meant to dissuade you from even taking a sip of alcohol, as you know. If you can't get to that stage it would just be a whole lotta pain for you.

The gabapentin was working by itself to remove symptoms of alcohol withdrawal? If so this all comes down to a self control problem, which we as addicts are all too familiar with. The drunken effects you felt from gabapentin 900mg (slight drunken, slight euphoria) wear off quite rapidly, like 1-3 days rapidly, and massive increases in dose won't do a damn thing. If you continue to take gabapentin with alcohol you will merely be compounding the problem. If you think alcohol withdrawal is bad, gabapentin+alcohol withdrawal will be exponentially bad. In other words, one or the other. Even if you use the gabapentin day 1, drink day 2, gabapentin day 3, would be far better than your current use. Just trying single alcohol free days with gabapentin could be the stepping stone you require. (this does not mean take gabapentin at night to avoid the morning WDs, and then drink)

I know this is more of a pharmacological discussion in a forum meant for emotional issues and recovery. Us addicts are addicts for life, but that does not mean at all that you need to be dependant on drugs all your life, or that you can't live a normal life. I feel for you, though I have never had dependency issues (just abused them) with gabagerics, but I understand that they can trump opioid acute WD pain.

Even if you don't know why you posted it, it's a start.

Things can always get better.

If you tried a diazepam taper like I mentioned, could you find the will to abstain from alcohol if you were feeling "normal"?

Things to keep in mind:

1. You can get better. Hep C is not a death sentence (life is a death sentence), and you can live a normal life.
2. You are not a failure, no matter how many times you have failed to get clean, you have a medical issue. All us addicts do.
3. People care about you, if not your immediate family (you mentioned your Mom, so I'm sure she does if you're worried about her hearing you heaving), then people in TDS, or BL in general. I care about you and only wish the best.
4. You are struggling with the most commonly abused drug in the US, and it is incredibly hard to stop due to it's cheap price, and universal availability.

My thoughts are with you buddy
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TBH i dunno wat to do , the rxed me lexapro also , which im afraid to take ,im reaally sensitive to SSRIs and kinda want to jump off a bridge when i take them,i didnt drink as much i usually do today,since the gaba kinda helped me not drink for a few hours,being its 12:04 here in hawaii andim still up is kind of odd, usually im passed out drunk at 8ish....kinda nice change '

if the gabba doesnt work, ill have to try the diazapam detox or just go detox somewhere .

family cares and all that, im just a really good actor*manipulator , i wish there was a job title as a manipulator ,i could manipulate myself out of a concentration camp or hell.
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oxy would probably be better for my liver,

tbh atabuse or whatever its called , seems distant for me, i just need some sort of RX to keep me level headed and motivated through my PAWS from subs and H and then booze,

taking shots at 7am is kind of a turn off to most people, so im gettting more and more introverted as the months go by ,getting harder to look people in the eyes or even say good morning , i guess i just dont care anymore...maybe i never did

thx for the replies

Gr33nEyes ,thx for caring and lolwhatzdrugs, i wish i didint know wat drugs were lol///but who knows maybe ill kick this demon in the ass and grow from my experience of being a junkie homelesss wreck of a boozer

DWE OUT
 
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SSRIs are different for everyone, personally citalopram made me suicidal in a matter of days (never been suicidal before or since....) the feelings immediately subsiding with cessation. If they make you feel that way stop taking them immediately and contact your doctor. That said I have friends who would be complete wrecks without their SSRIs, they're tolerated very differently by different people.

Are you drinking to pull yourself out of WDs, or just because you feel you want to? If the former, then I can see a diazepam taper working as you will not drink if you feel normal. If the latter, then it could be dangerous without antabuse or complete willpower. Benzos and your liquor will not mix.

Oxycodone by itself would be better for your liver, and might be better overall then being an alcoholic with HEP C, but it wouldn't be better for your mental wellbeing. As you know, the best would be neither opioids or alcohol.

An RX to keep you motivated through PAWs. Gabapentin is really one of the better drugs IMO, but it's overt effects (drunken feelings) wear off quickly, though I don't know about it's pure gabageric (anti-WD) effects.

Did you start drinking because of the PAWs? I know alcohol kills anxiety, which is huge in PAWs, but will compound it over time as you've seen.

If you have the willpower not to drink if you're not in WD from alcohol and not anxious, then I would recommend talking to your Dr. about a diazepam taper. It can be stretched out enough to keep you comfortable, it has a long half life so not dry heaving in the morning, and it is an anxiolytic so your anxiety from PAWs and lack of alcohol will still be controlled.

Have you considered seeing a psychologist? Is this a psychiatric doctor scripting this stuff or a family clinician?
 
lolwhatzdrugs said:
SSRIs are different for everyone, personally citalopram made me suicidal in a matter of days (never been suicidal before or since....) the feelings immediately subsiding with cessation. If they make you feel that way stop taking them immediately and contact your doctor. That said I have friends who would be complete wrecks without their SSRIs, they're tolerated very differently by different people.

Are you drinking to pull yourself out of WDs, or just because you feel you want to? If the former, then I can see a diazepam taper working as you will not drink if you feel normal. If the latter, then it could be dangerous without antabuse or complete willpower. Benzos and your liquor will not mix.

Oxycodone by itself would be better for your liver, and might be better overall then being an alcoholic with HEP C, but it wouldn't be better for your mental wellbeing. As you know, the best would be neither opioids or alcohol.

An RX to keep you motivated through PAWs. Gabapentin is really one of the better drugs IMO, but it's overt effects (drunken feelings) wear off quickly, though I don't know about it's pure gabageric (anti-WD) effects.

Did you start drinking because of the PAWs? I know alcohol kills anxiety, which is huge in PAWs, but will compound it over time as you've seen.

If you have the willpower not to drink if you're not in WD from alcohol and not anxious, then I would recommend talking to your Dr. about a diazepam taper. It can be stretched out enough to keep you comfortable, it has a long half life so not dry heaving in the morning, and it is an anxiolytic so your anxiety from PAWs and lack of alcohol will still be controlled.

Have you considered seeing a psychologist? Is this a psychiatric doctor scripting this stuff or a family clinician?
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im drinking because i just like to,but now its getting to a point where all my organs hurt and dryheaves and passing out at 1pm

eventually i will be homeless again,my mom will get to tired,plus she drink too only at night though/

the gaba tolerance seen to be exponentialy greater then i expected 300mg is no longer viable after 3 days

dunno maybe i should just TRY the lexapro,but im so afraid of that bad feelling i got wheni took paxil and zoloft

maaybe a diazpam taper then gaba after that TBH i dont think i can be SOBER its just not an option,ive see a dr that prescribed me this gaba and lex i told her i was a addict and she wont give me a benzo maybe i should go see a reall dr and havbe him tell me if i keep drinking ill be dead by 30 in 4 years ive always wanted a dr to tell me something like that . IF YOU USE AGAIN YOU WILL DIEEEEEEEEEEEEE lol

its not really anxiety i just dont feel good hopeless kinda,its probably GAD the type you cant really feel but its there,like thinking to much about the future and things you cant change,like death,and LOVE
 
i was rxed kpins before after a week i was taking them by the handfull more tolerance increase than gaba imo

now valium is a different storry

i woke up at 5 dry heaved then started drinking

ima make a solo band called "dry heave"

dry heave in the morning
dry heave in the evening
dry heave at suppertime
when im dryheaving on a sidewalk
i can drink vodka anytime
 
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