Hi guys, in England myself and many many friends and friends of friends when rolling will always take a full gram, usually bombing it (crushing up and wrapping in a rolling paper to swallow), out of a gram we get around 6 bombs so each bomb is around 0.16 of a gram... Now, whenever I see Americans posting about mdma 80% of the time it follows with a 'don't take anymore than 100mg' which if I'm correct is 0.1 of a gram the point I'm trying to get at is everyone over here is taking ten times that in a night out and many of you Americans are posting constantly about how dangerous that is to other Americans, why is this?
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You've seriously never gotten full weight JWills?
I should hook you up haha, 160mg gets me blasted and it's always full weight.
Anyways most people can do insane amounts of MDMA in a night even if it's really pure, once your first redose is done you will only get uncomfortably stimulated and not really roll.
Saying not to do over 100mg is hilarious, even with the purest shit I've had 100mg would not be unmanageable even for a novice. Above 120 or 140mg however shit can start to get crazy.
Anyways my main point being that no matter how pure your MDMA is doing a gram in a night is a waste and is unnecessarily hard on your body, you're just setting yourself for a long term comedown and a loss of MDMA magic
I should hook you up haha, 160mg gets me blasted and it's always full weight.
Anyways most people can do insane amounts of MDMA in a night even if it's really pure, once your first redose is done you will only get uncomfortably stimulated and not really roll.
Saying not to do over 100mg is hilarious, even with the purest shit I've had 100mg would not be unmanageable even for a novice. Above 120 or 140mg however shit can start to get crazy.
Anyways my main point being that no matter how pure your MDMA is doing a gram in a night is a waste and is unnecessarily hard on your body, you're just setting yourself for a long term comedown and a loss of MDMA magic
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Lol who says not to take over 100mgs? I know of no fellow americans IRL that lives by that motto. IMO the limit should be 200-250mgs per session max, anymore and your likely gonna have a shitty comedown and another cliche "why do I feel like shit, I only took half a gram" BL post..
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Offtopic: ecstasy/MDMA is pretty common in England isnt it? How many percent of youngsters do MDMA regularly in London for example if you'd guess? Is it "socially acceptable" so to say among teenagers or just a minority thing?
And 1g being ~700mg, are they ok with this? They just dont have scales and dont weigh their shit? Lol.
And 1g being ~700mg, are they ok with this? They just dont have scales and dont weigh their shit? Lol.
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Idk how it works in the UK but my grams are always 1g, I own several scales as well so if anyone tries to short me they're not gonna get away with it.
@Everyone, I was talking about England specifically yes. Nobody bothers testing or weighing their stuff, so obviously dealers just toss off 600mg as a 'gram'. The only time I received an actual gram in weight it turned out to be methylone - CLASSIC! It's kind of a blessing in disguise though, since then people actually take less than they think they are. I don't mind receiving 600-700mg as I have little choice. The only way to avoid it is to find shall we say "alternative sources". When I did find this alternative source, I received 1.1grams of tested MDMA - RESULT.
Unfortunately in England there is lots of ignorance and misinformation spread, a common rumour is that 250mg is a good starting dose. Obviously we know this isn't true, but it kind of makes sense. If a user acquired a 'gram' and eyeball-split it into four, one would expect roughly 250mg per pile. Considering that it would actually weigh nearer 600-700mg, a quarter of that would be nearer 150-170mg - a solid dose. If people were really getting a gram and then dropped a quarter of it, I'm sure i'd see a lot more messy gurners off their tits (not that I don't see them now, it would just be more). This is another good thing about pills really, the majority contain reasonable doses from 100-150mg with only a select few being higher or lower. This stops the less educated from being absolutely fucked up.
@OP, I don't really know where you got the 'don't take more than 100mg' from. Nobody says that here. Not even I keep my doses that low and I'm pretty reserved about my dosing as I think it is the key to avoiding side-effects. My recommended limit would be 250mg over an evening. Something like 150mg + 50mg later on + 50mg even later on + a little caffeine from an energy drink is my capacity and seems to work well for me.
Unfortunately in England there is lots of ignorance and misinformation spread, a common rumour is that 250mg is a good starting dose. Obviously we know this isn't true, but it kind of makes sense. If a user acquired a 'gram' and eyeball-split it into four, one would expect roughly 250mg per pile. Considering that it would actually weigh nearer 600-700mg, a quarter of that would be nearer 150-170mg - a solid dose. If people were really getting a gram and then dropped a quarter of it, I'm sure i'd see a lot more messy gurners off their tits (not that I don't see them now, it would just be more). This is another good thing about pills really, the majority contain reasonable doses from 100-150mg with only a select few being higher or lower. This stops the less educated from being absolutely fucked up.
@OP, I don't really know where you got the 'don't take more than 100mg' from. Nobody says that here. Not even I keep my doses that low and I'm pretty reserved about my dosing as I think it is the key to avoiding side-effects. My recommended limit would be 250mg over an evening. Something like 150mg + 50mg later on + 50mg even later on + a little caffeine from an energy drink is my capacity and seems to work well for me.
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Wow Jwills your post totally clears up my assumptions of the UK MDMA scene, now it totally makes sense. I used to think folks from the UK were just MDMA savages that munch down quarter grams at a time without thinking of the consequences when in reality that "250mgs" may very well be like 150-175mgs. In the end it's all just a way for dealers to get away with skimping sacks. Any drug user should really stop being cheap and buy at least a 20$ scale so you know what your working with. Also, a combination of .7 grams, cut, and eyeballed doses could very well explain these monstrous doses I see coming from UK users. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone in the UK though so don't take this post as me making gross generalizations, I'm sure people are getting legit grams and are aware of their doses. It's just that here in CA, 150mgs of the MDMA I get will floor the shit out of me for a solid 4-5 hours, god knows what 250+ would do to me 8(
SWIM (lol jks jks) always bags a gram as a gram, and will never cut it. I'd feel like a complete wanker passing on anything less than 900-950mg to someone as a full gram, though having said that I'm not a dealer lol...
If I were to cap some crystal for someone, it'll be 90-105mg. No more (obviously, lol) and no less.
If I were to cap some crystal for someone, it'll be 90-105mg. No more (obviously, lol) and no less.
a gram is an insane dose of mdma by any reasonable standard.
are you testing your product for the presence of mdma? how many 'bombs' are you taking to start?
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In a night I'd drop 2 160mg bombs, then another 2 followed by another 2 in the space of about 5-6 hours, I don't mean to sound big headed but I'm no newbie to this, I weigh up my shit whenever I get it right now I pay --- for 700mg and --- for 1000mg, I know where it's coming from and can spot md from a mile off, I mean it's not just me taking this amount pretty much everyone I know that drops will take the gram when rolling, that's easily 30-40 people.
I'm not saying it like this to be big headed or anything because it's nothing to be proud of I was just a little shocked when I searched online and saw pretty much all Americans taken 1/6th of what I'd take, makes me feel like a brain fried mother fucker.
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A gram isn't unheard of, its just known to cause really nasty problems. Might not happen the first time. Might not happen after 50 times. But when it happens, you can't do a damn thing about it but suffer through it until you recover and it happens without warning. If your tolerance is high enough that you need a gram in a night, you might want to rethink your drug use. I also edited out the prices, we don't discuss prices here.
Damnnnn, yeah that's fair enough... Makes me rethink my use really, over one festival weekend I went through 3 grams and my cousin went through 7... Should probably quit abusing it, what's the best length of time to have a break that will make a real difference next time I drop, like and effective break that when I next drop I can take much less and feel real good, I don't have to take a gram to feel amazing I feel good after one bomb I just keep dropping throughout the night.
I always get (nearly) a gram, often 900mg+, but when it's lower than that normally it's methylone not MDMA. Purity plays a massive role here as I've had entire nights on less than 150mg and once we had to do a gram but that was 'festival MD' so unweighed untested and tbf we were fucked for 9 hours but still.
Kratom, I think also a fair few people in the UK like to do it every single weekend they can building up a tolerance. Some guy at my old school was almost religiously every thursday saturday no idea how or why so that adds to it a fair bit.
Kratom, I think also a fair few people in the UK like to do it every single weekend they can building up a tolerance. Some guy at my old school was almost religiously every thursday saturday no idea how or why so that adds to it a fair bit.
most people in the uk are ridiculous with their mdma use (I am from uk)
the problem is seems most clubbers/ravers these days just want to get as "mashed" as possible which is what high doses of mdma will do.
I myself don't understand it, I would rather be sober than be "high" on 500mg mdma.
I see it every week people just sitting gurning in a corner of a club all night, its just not what mdma is about for me..
the problem is seems most clubbers/ravers these days just want to get as "mashed" as possible which is what high doses of mdma will do.
I myself don't understand it, I would rather be sober than be "high" on 500mg mdma.
I see it every week people just sitting gurning in a corner of a club all night, its just not what mdma is about for me..
I'd say in the past 8 months I've rolled 11-12 times, I've planned to break until mid July when I go to my first festival, so should be alright?
MagickalKat777
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Zippster, if you've been rolling that frequently, you should take at least a 6 month break. July is nowhere near enough time. Can you not drink or do some ketamine or acid at this festival?